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3 hours ago, Bevo said:And as you said people who engage in violence, threats, and intimidation, should be held accountable. This hasn't been happening, though. And things are getting out of hand in many places around the country and around the world. When mobs storm the airport terminal in Daghestani, shouting antisemitic slogans, chanting "Allahu Akbar" and running around asking staff where the "Jews" are, Jews around the world take notice. It has been seen before and it has rarely ended peacefully.
It's really fucking weird and concerning how coordinated the gaslighting attempt has been to set the narrative of "threats violence and intimidation" being the reason cops were called to campus. I have not seen a single instance of it occurring at Texas yesterday, and to the contrary have read multiple firsthand reports of Jewish students peacefully talking with the protesters, with some even joining the protest.
There was not a """march of antisemitism""" on campus yesterday. The police were there in riot gear before noon. They had decided yesterday morning that they were going to crack some heads.
Those students committed the cardinal sin of protesting the wrong thing. The state of Texas and University of Texas is now deploying force to stop speech it doesn't like. That's what fascism looks like.
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7 hours ago, F250 said:
You are obsessed with Tate and gay sex and there is nothing wrong with that. I support and embrace all lifestyles so no judgment from me. If you secretly desire to be fucked or fuck Andrew Tate that is perfectly fine and acceptable. Just be your true self and everything else will fall into place.
NowThis is good advice
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5 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:So are we having a campus-wide strike tomorrow?
There was already a planned protest over the firing of the DEI staff - they had been told that Texas would find a place for them, and then welched. About sixty people left in the lurch. The tower was already shut down tomorrow for that, so all systems are go for a general strike tomorrow
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/r/UTAustin has more first hand accounts of what happened:
QuoteHere are the facts:
- Protests of nearly equal or even larger size have occurred with a small UTPD presence and resulted in 0 arrests or disruptions (such as one on Nov. 9)
- State Troopers showed up at 11:40 in riot gear when the protests hadn’t even began, so they couldn’t have been responding to violence.
- State Troopers let people march for an hour on speedway and randomly declared the march illegal at 12:40 for blocking a roadway. They ordered people to disperse but also blocked people from leaving.
- When people then moved to south mall to not block speedway, they then declared all of south mall illegal to be on. They pushed the crowd onto sidewalks and created a danger of students being trampled
- Students got an email from UT Austin that declared anyone in the south mall area to be a rioter at 5:18pm
- After fencing the normally publicly available south mall off, police jumped over their own fences to arrest random people not on the mall, but on the sidewalks. They arrested compliant students, a Fox News journalist, an elderly protestor, and shoved around many professors.
- Troopers then declared the entire sidewalk off limits, and pushed the students from the sidewalk onto a street, blocking it off with a line of bike cops and horse police.
- For the first time in the day people students were actually obstructed, but not by protestors: UT staff and cops banned anyone from south mall, it’s sidewalks, and blocked a street off next to it with bike cops. If they tried to get to class using any of these routes, a cop (not a protestor) might slam them.
- The state troopers and APD randomly left around 7pm. (I have no idea why they would turn their backs on “violent rioters” without being attacked, calmly walk away, and let the "violent rioters" go back to a campus)
- Protestors returned to the south mall after 7pm. They did the same thing they would’ve done if the police never showed up: sat on the mall chanting while people freely walked by.
Why did all of this happen? This was an unconditional political stunt by Greg Abbott. He sent the troopers in advance to disrupt any pro-Palestine events on campus, even if legal & peaceful.
They didn’t just wait until violence occurred before sending riot police. Because they knew violence likely wouldn’t break out and therefore they wouldn’t have a reason to arrive.
They didn’t simply order police to arrest violent individuals, because there wouldn’t be any, and they wouldn’t be able to disrupt the event. This is why they declared an entire area illegal.
This was a pre-planned attempt by UT Officials and Abbott to silence people peacefully protesting. Abbott said it himself on Twitter; he believed UT students belong behind metal bars not because they hurt anyone, but he dislikes what they think. Abbott did this to score points with his party and donors.
Shame on UT officials for going along with this anti-constitutional political stunt and getting students heads slammed on concrete, people’s futures jeopardized, and professors shoved around by cops so Abbott could get some favorable headlines.
The detailed timeline of events is important, and key to disarming the trespass allegations by the fascists that brutalized my university today
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1 minute ago, YGIFS said:He's a man of integrity
1 minute ago, YGIFS said:My larger worry is he won't give up the goods on the folks up the food-chain that fucked him and our school on this.
These two statements are incongruous.
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23 minutes ago, Captainant said:Much like trump on Jan 6, his growing silence through the day is making things worse and worse.
Update: I take it back. His words are worse than his silence
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Just now, The Ace of Aces said:
Fuck the state authorities who sent in the cops. Cowards.
Hartzells email that got sent out seems to be him claiming credit for calling in the head crackers
Dear UT community,
This has been a challenging day for many. We have witnessed much activity we normally do not experience on our campus, and there is understandably a lot of emotion surrounding these events.
Today, our University held firm, enforcing our rules while protecting the Constitutional right to free speech. Peaceful protests within our rules are acceptable. Breaking our rules and policies and disrupting others’ ability to learn are not allowed. The group that led this protest stated it was going to violate Institutional Rules. Our rules matter, and they will be enforced. Our University will not be occupied.
The protesters tried to deliver on their stated intent to occupy campus. People not affiliated with UT joined them, and many ignored University officials’ continual pleas for restraint and to immediately disperse. The University did as we said we would do in the face of prohibited actions. We were prepared, with the necessary support to maintain campus operations and ensure the safety, well-being and learning environment for our more than 50,000 students.
We are grateful for the countless staff members and state and University law enforcement officers, as well as support personnel who exercised extraordinary restraint in the face of a difficult situation that is playing out at universities across the country. There is a way to exercise freedom of speech and civil discourse, and our Office of the Dean of Students has continued to offer ways to ensure protests can happen within the rules. The University of Texas will continue to take necessary steps so that all our University functions proceed without interruption.
Sincerely yours,
Jay Hartzell
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@YGIFS you asked earlier what teakettling is, here's a student's firsthand account of how the cops were doing it today:
QuoteI would just like to add to this since this thread is already going. They threatened arrest with penal code "42.03 Obstructing a Highway or other passageway."
The protestors were on the lawn until the cops and state troopers showed up. They then proceeded to push the protestors off the lawn onto the sidewalk and they taped off the lawn. They moved the protestors off the lawn and onto the sidewalk SO THAT THEY COULD ARREST THEM. Bullshit of the highest orderThe cops were forcing students off of lawns and into sidewalks and streets so they could charge them with obstructing streets.
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4 minutes ago, Slacks said:Carlos hit an officer.
You can see him in the video bump an officer in the back with his camera, but it's by no means an attack or even "hitting" someone in the way the connotes intention. Those cops were looking for the thinnest veneer of justification to kick some ass and slap some cuffs on someone
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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:I'm not here yet, but only because I'm waiting for more facts to come out. I'm about 80% there, though.
Much like trump on Jan 6, his growing silence through the day is making things worse and worse.
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Microsoft's licensing is gonna keep ARM from getting bigger - enterprises with VDI solutions are really badly handcuffed by windows licensing terms that make running them anywhere but Azure not that great.
But, I could definitely see ARM taking over more and more. Especially when you've got the success of Valve's Proton compatibility to translate directX APIs into Vulkan APIs, there's fewer and fewer anchors keeping consumer users on Windows for desktop computing
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1 minute ago, ChickenSandwich said:
I don’t believe in the right to break laws in the name of “protest.”
That was not happening here? Please support your assertion that it was.
1 minute ago, ChickenSandwich said:I do believe the Jewish students on campus should be free from hate speech and Hamas apologists on their way to class.
Same thing as above.
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Credit where it's due, it looks like posts are getting restored and moved to the new thread
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1 minute ago, bolverk said:I'd bet he'd have allowed a new thread devoted to the UT protests as an ongoing, newsworthy event
It is the WRONG move to memory hole all those posts. It's his favorite move, and it's fucking wrong.
He should have moved the posts to a new thread, rather than just lazily deleting everything. If that's his only solution then @immamac should fucking have a talk with him about destroying his user content and discussion
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@blacklab can you restore all those posts and comments from when the event was happening?
Or did you just erase that context and discussion because you didn't like how much your buddies said they liked "cracking heads"?
Edit: credit where it's due, thank you for restoring the posts. Sorry for the extreme emotion, but I thought you had memory holed the entire contemporaneous discussion and I was quite irate.
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2 minutes ago, blacklab said:
you're both free to start a new thread about it, no one is stopping you and I would not delete or move the thread.
I've posted at least 5 times in this thread to stay on topic.
You've already deleted and removed the posts and discussion.
If you wanted it to be a topic, you would have moved the posts.
But you didn't. You didn't want ANY discussion of it, so you hit the reset button and removed the fresh context.
You are a fucking terrible mod if you just memory holed all those posts and user content. What the fuck, dude?
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1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:He's not carrying water, he's just being stupid about moderation. BL isn't a chud.
He sure fuckin acts and moderates like a chud. He's letting the fascists and bootlickers set the terms of the conversation, rather then telling them to go eat a bag of dicks.
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1 minute ago, blacklab said:
No, because the posts don't belong here.
Why you ask? Because a bootlicker will come along, and rather than ignore him you'll then engage with him and the thread turns to shit.
Thanks for deleting the posts and protecting the bootlickers from accountability, as you ever do.
Where the fuck does it belong then?
Is the deployment of the state troopers onto OUR FUCKING CAMPUS to arrest peacefully protesting students a forever verboten topic?
You are just making it such that the fascists and bootlickers get to dictate the terms of """polite""" conversation, you fucking useful idiot
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3 minutes ago, blacklab said:
Reminder this is the thread for isreal-hamas news.
Posts about protests in the US or middle east politics or how you would fix the world go elsewhere.
Motherfucker this happened on Speedway in front of Gregory Gym. This is the essence of Texas current events.
Sorry it makes you feel uncomfortable to see it happening.
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Before BL starting issuing ban waves, is the state governor illegally arresting dozens of students and a few journalists off of Speedway Drive in front of the steps of Gregory Gymnasium NOT a current event worthy of discussion on a UT current events board?
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4 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:If shouting anti-Jewish hate speech, should the University not intervene on University grounds? If praising the Hamas terrorist group etc? Is that fair to Jewish students? Would it be permitted for alternative races/groups if the Jewish population wasn’t the target?
I reject your framing and insistence that any speech against the genocide of Palestinian civilians is "anti-Jewish hate speech". Try again.
You used to be WAY better at justifying police brutality and beating up protesters, you're really missing a step nowadays
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This is a Uvalde parent
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These cops have been fuckin WAITING for a chance to get their rocks off
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Wasn't there just a big news story about the US officially fielding a flying EMP cruise missile? I wonder if that could create some strange atmospheric effects as it flies l, and I could see a ramp up in field tests with current events being what they are