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2 minutes ago, Skipper said:
If you read what Hartzell actually stated (not the bullshit you projected on him or me), assume it was true, and you still think he was wrong, that's fine. That's your opinion. But I assure you it's a minority one no matter what you all convince yourselves talking to each other on this board.
Then you are a fucking coward if you think the right way to handle a peaceful protest is to call in the fucking stormtroopers to crack heads.
I do not buy Hartzells statement for a moment because he is speaking from a place of fear, not leadership. Instead of speaking to his students and faculty, he called in RIOT COPS to fuck em up.
Your reaction, and applauding what Hartzell did will only serve to ensure more crackdowns like this for unallowed speech.
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7 minutes ago, Skipper said:I can assure you Hartzell would have been under a lot more fire from the donors that matter if he let the campus turn into the idiocy that is all over the news at Columbia and elsewhere
Ya know, if you turn off the fox and newsmax it turns out you're actually NOT under attack by immigrants and brown people. This sort of rote and unthoughtful acceptance, internalization, and repetition of the State and Party line for why they had to put down this peaceful protest is how you end up with a fucking boot on your neck.
7 minutes ago, Skipper said:Mistakes appear to have been made but if there was actual intel these losers were descending on campus to wreak havoc
This is nothing but trump and abbotts fear and propaganda speaking through you.
7 minutes ago, Skipper said:(and I did see the stat that many arrested had no UT affiliation)
Do you think that everyone on campus is officially affiliated with UT? Further, do you think that you only have a right to be on campus to demonstrate if you are affiliated?
There was a fucking law signed in 2019 that explicitly allows the sort of peaceful protest that you are desperate to justify the brutal crushing of. The law does state that universities can put limits - BUT THEY FUCKING DIDNT AND THEY BROKE THE FUCKING LAW.
Stop defending this fascism.
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5 minutes ago, Skipper said:At least get the text right. It stated he called them because they affirmatively stated they wanted to do the same takeover encampent bullshit they did at Columbia.
Oh bull fucking shit. This is the equivalent to a "furtive movements" affidavit by a cop that just gunned a person down in their own home. Are you saying that you think the correct move whenever the school administration is concerned is to call in the fucking riot cops to crack some heads?
You and the rest of the scared victimhood boomers continually go back to what has happened elsewhere, as if it resembles what happened yesterday on Speedway in front of Gregory. I have fucking eyes. There is not an equivalency no matter how much you wish there is.
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Hartzell calling in the riot cops on his own student body because he didn't like their speech is beyond the fucking pale. He can repeat abbott's party line on his justification, but it's has nothing to do with what happened yesterday on campus.
It's unsurprising and predictable that so many people on this board are uncritically believing whatever their preferred authority figure tells them, but holy fucking shit.
Just now, YGIFS said:Who we talking about?
Hartzell being confirmed by the Daily Texan (publication, not board) to have called in the jackboots
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Just now, 956 Worldwide said:
But that has to actually happen, it can’t be wish-casting based on what people did in LA or NYC.
No, no let the people who think "anti fascist" is an insult continue to advocate for collective punishment. They don't realize how they look, but at least they're finally saying it out loud.
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Abbott and bootlickers today: putting down this protest was all about fighting antisemitism!!!
When there were actual fucking neonazis marching in the streets y'all were more concerned about free speech then.
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1 minute ago, 52-80 said:
What is offensive or scary or about the 2023 Israeli-American Council Summit in Austin that this same PSC group demanded to be shut down, on grounds of danger?
Something tells me you didn't give a shit about any of this group or even know about them until abbott targeted them for brutality
2 minutes ago, 52-80 said:Correct, its “fine” for the PSC to make this *plead* against another groups right to convene. My point wasnt that their demand per se is a problem, but that its hilariously backfired. Didnt know the jaguar would eat MY face.
Yes. We know you think it's hilarious when protesters are beaten up by cops.
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1 minute ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:
That was the Summer of the CHOP in Seattle, right? Of the antifa riots right? Yeah it was great fun watching the country immolate. We should all do it again.
Yes all that happened that summer was "antifa riots". Just like how yesterday was yeah?
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1 minute ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:
I'm sure that's what they thought at Columbia. It was very clearly stated what was intended, to "occupy the lawn", to "cancel classes", and to establish "THE POPULAR UNIVERSITY FOR GAZA". Doesn't sound lawless or threatening at all. It's not like there wasn't already a playbook or anything.
I don't think there's anything that will ever change your mind that cracking protester heads is the right move. You and yours sure enjoyed it during the 2020 summer of love.
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19 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:
"assaulting". And yes, when the same umbrella organization's called for "occupations" that resulted in lawless and threatening tent cities at other Universities, yes it was justified. Why do you think the majority of the arrested were outside agitators? Why were they there?
Good fucking lord the false victimhood from y'all is suffocating. Other people saying speech you don't like on the six pack lawn isn't lawlessness and threats
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7 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:
Watching what the "solidarity committees" did at Columbia and Yale, perhaps it was prudent to take them at their word. The fact that 26 of the arrestees weren't student, and were outside agitators, should be a clue.
Nothing of that sort was happening on Texas's campus yesterday. The jackboots came down hard because they wanted to flex and show how tough they were and that their fascist cred is legit.
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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:
Would love more information on how they established intent.
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35 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:
All things considered, I think it went well, with no injuries, deaths, or horrible videos for folks to fixate on. There was no occupation, and subsequent tent city full of agitators and professional protesters threatening students and disrupting school, and the protesters got to be arrested/herded/chastised by "fascists", thereby stoking their ego, burnishing their brand, and establishing their cred. Win:Win
Dude, there were organizers wearing yellow high-viz vests that were working with the cops before they went aggroid and started teakettling and arresting students and journalists.
There was not an """occupation""" going on or imminent, no matter how much you or abbott repeat it.
You and sack and incredulity and everyone else taking the governor at his word need to actually watch some of the reporting and footage from the event.
It is not as you are so desperately describing.
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Just now, Frank Drebin said:
I wasn't framing anything you dumbfuck. I was responding to a post I quoted.
You're doing the exact same thing as incredulity and thread shitting by bringing in things that did not happen, but have been insisted DID happen by abbott and his fascist cronies to justify their crackdown.
You are playing cutesy games to dishonestly hide your support for what abbott's mission and goal is.
And you're polluting this thread with false notions of why the cops brutalized protesters yesterday. You are doing abbott's dirty work for him.
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3 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:Regulations of wearing masks or KKK hoods while assembling in public has been a thing for a century. Here is a more recent example where the Second Circuit rejected the Klan's right to hide their faces while assembling.
On Jan. 20, 2004, the Second Circuit reversed the District Court. In doing so, the Second Circuit reasoned that the First Amendment right of anonymous speech does not embrace a right to conceal one’s appearance in a public demonstration.
Sack, stop framing this as if the arrests were even about face coverings. None of them have been as far as I know. You are doing your cute trick where you introduce something unrelated to derail a discussion and reframe it in terms favorable to your biases.
There has been a concerted effort by abbott to punish pro-palestine speech on campus. Either through firing professors
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/08/israel-hamas-war-texas-universities/
Advocating for punishments against students expressing the wrong opinion
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/27/israel-hamas-war-texas-universities/
Or just, ya know, using violence and force to silence them.
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https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/25/ut-austin-palestinian-arrests-criminal-cases/
46 out of 57 cases dropped so far due to lacking probable cause for arrest.
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1 hour ago, FartingMonk said:
Driven down by META earnings. It's fucking stupid. They beat expectations. Said hey we gotta spend a lot of money to build this AI thing so it can make us a lot of money. Investors freak out and dumped. Fucking 12K haircut on that news
Get ready for when the music stops with TSLA. They are playing some fuck fuck games with their accounting
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Israel
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3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:90% sure I just saw Greg Casar walking towards tower protest activity. Did not have on my bingo card.
Are you on campus today? What's the atmosphere like?
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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:
So, you tell me @Frank Drebin, where is the reasonable time and place restriction in "you are not permitted" to protest at all? Sounds like, the University was intentionally stamping down on free speech and violating constitutional rights. Sounds like Hartzell was full of shit and had already decided the outcome before the event took place.
Sack knows. He WANTS the university to stamp down and crack heads for people who have speech he doesn't like.
Hell, on his original handle he once misquoted MLK in defense of Chris Rufo's CRT shit. He's an intellectually dishonest liar that doesn't care
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Sack, have you even read the thread? I linked Hartzells own statement about last year's free speech week and the UTexas page for it.
It sure seems like you're coming in completely uninformed and thread shitting to defend your culture war stake
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Just now, Frank Drebin said:
The protesters clearly stated (and published) their intent to occupy the campus. Hartzell said that violates campus policy on free speech and called the authorities to prevent any occupation.
Me saying that I'm a millionaire doesn't make it true either. You are overly eager to accept the framing that validates your biases.
You should look for yourself what happened instead of listening to and repeating abbott's puppet
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8 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:
No matter how much you want to hide your face with a mask and protest Jews right to exist.
No matter how much you repeat the abbott and cruz line, it does not make it true. That was not happening yesterday.
Stop lying, please.
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11 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:
I suspect they can protest all they want in the appropriate areas. But the masked protesters don’t want to do that.
President Hartzell has explained that he isn’t going to allow them to take over areas that aren’t for protests. Nor should he.You are gaslighting and presenting as fact things that did not happen.
What DID happen is that DPS showed up in riot gear at 1130, let people come and peacefully protest, and then started teakettling and arresting people.
I posted a timeline earlier in the thread.
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Neither is Skippy or the rest of the gang. They don't want to believe their lying eyes and trust hot wheels and hartzell instead