Captainant
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50 minutes ago, immamac said:
you have just flooded the discussion which makes it counter-productive as these videos aren't exactly all that different from eachother. You could just put a video and say, there were 50 more like this in my feed that weren't from the same protest and achieve the same effect.
This is moreso the essence of my issue. There is original reporting for the incident(s) which I don't have a problem with, and then there is the breathless repetition of old shit that's already happened being presented as ongoing and escalating insanity. The fact that it's mainly right wing shitheads doing it is more a correlation with the depth and breadth of thread shitting than it is the cause of my consternation.
It's literally the exact same shitheads on Twitter amplifying the culture war framing in the 2020 police brutality protests, as are amplifying shit right now with the Palestinian campus protests. You poured gasoline on a dumpster fire when you said "if it's just videos of what's happening then it's honkey dorey" and gave him a pass to ramp up whatever the fuck elmo chooses to amplify on Twitter.
It's not good content to just mindlessly spam whatever your social media feed gives you without anything else. You've taken stances against that sort of thing with workswithseed in the past, why is this any different?
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1 minute ago, immamac said:
you need to take a step back man, I think you are real in your head about a lot of this stuff. The unfortunate reality is no one gives a shit, and you are giving way too much of a shit. I'm not telling you to become apathetic, because that's part of the problem, but you aren't going to fix it so care appropriately.
If nobody gives a shit that they're reading propaganda as unvarnished fact, then we are all drinking poison.
Pass the fucking Kool-Aid!
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21 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:
good point on their not being any anti semitic stuff in those clips. I didn’t hear anything specifically anti semitic but I also didn’t make that post. I just posted the video of actual reality unfolding.
No, but your Twitter source claims it's antisemitism in action, so it's continuing to suck the oxygen from the discussion. Like for fucks sake you're literally doing trump's defense for violating his gag order: "I didn't post it, I just reposted it!!"
You are creating an incredibly skewed and dishonest representation of what is happening. Yes, there are pro-palestinian protesters going WAY over the line. But just because it's happening in one place does not mean that it's characteristic of everyone everywhere. Your zeal to post and repost the sources you're including really make you look like an asshat.
The majority of twitter profiles you're posting are reposting days old stuff that's been repackaged by tucker carlson's network or libzoftiktok - who have literally incited murderous violent action through their rhetoric - and does not add new information to what is supposed to be a news and current event thread. You're just shit posting your echo chamber and building one here on Surly.
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9 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:Negged for lying just like the site. You summarize it like people summarize the Second Amendment.
As for the governor of NY, examine items 1 and 2 below. From the NYT:
She retracts and states regret about what was likely meant to be hyperbole. Her main point is access to technology to open up high paying jobs for the children of the Bronx.
Which is key? Here in Idiot World, the gaffe is used by one side to stir up the negros against someone with an interest in a Black community; the other can't get past the possible slight to the economics of the Bronx and defaults to outrage. The first is cynical and calculated to feed the hate engine. The second is a more benign form of idiocy that thinks it's doing good.
@safe sex obliterates to attempt to distort the story on drug testing new mothers using an absurdly low standard for reporting them to the police and social services. The practice being replaced got the wrong people in trouble and scared others from going to the hospital for care delivering their babies. Black mothers were more likely to lose their babies this way than white mothers.
Even in the face of that, we get the willfully obtuse:
What if you fucking read, dumbass?
If you still have much hope, the worrisome thing is how these anecdotal points of outrage further choke honest discourse. Anecdotal outrage has largely replaced political discussion. Merely quoting articles one agrees with has largely erased political thinking for the average citizen engaged enough to give much of a shit. Check the number of followers of this bomb-thrower:
Thank you, Pronghorn, for your service to your country.
In the DT thread, prong asked me to show him where the lie was. THIS is what that looks like. It's a shitload of effort and time to put the truth to a lie, especially when the person WANTS to believe it. Pronghorn is quite proud of not actually researching anything and just mindlessly repeating whatever his Twitter feed showed him
It's absolutely absurd and shameful that imma and BL allow libzoftiktok and ENDWOKENESS and tucker carlson's Daily Callerto be an acceptable thing to post in a """non political""" DT thread. It's poison.
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2 hours ago, Pancho said:
You’ve never cared about Blacks before but now all of a sudden you’re trying to use Blacks as political pawns. I wonder why?Because he had it pushed to his Twitter feed, and it's much easier to just listen to an apartheid heir for what is right and wrong.
Prong is just dancing to whatever tune his social media is playing, completely oblivious to what happened in 2016 and who was ultimately behind it. And since prong probably doesn't know, even the Senate republicans said russia was pulling the strings to get people riled up
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3 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:Video is one of the purest forms of news. It doesn't lie.
Yikes, dude. You really need to learn some media literacy and understand that provacteur shitheads make a living off of people like you
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/01/31/project-veritas-pfizer-mutating-covid/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/politics/project-veritas-ilhan-omar.html
And do I really need to explain why a Kremlin affiliated tucker carlson network like daily caller or fox news may be looking to incite useful idiots into a rage right around election time?
You really think that such illustrious Twitter follows as "END WOKENESS" and libzoftiktok are trustworthy sources looking to inform and not incite?
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@PRONG HORN you do know you're just reposting reposts of Daily Caller and Fox News rage bait, right? I really don't understand why @immamac has decided that spamming Twitter posts from provacteurs that were posting COVID and election disinformation a few years ago is what news actually is
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1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:7 minutes ago, Helobious said:
Apparently the two actually went outside and the altercation turned physical, then the agitator went to his car and got a gun. In Texas it does not matter how or who starts a fight, if you feel threatened you can respond with force if it’s reasonable. A fight with a stranger could constitute fear for life, will be interesting to see how it plays out.
From the article, it sounds like it was a shit show from top to bottom:
QuoteUtilizing cuss words and other profanities, Jeff stepped in to try and deescalate the situation try and calm him down.
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Investigators say the angry McDonald's customer grabbed a gun from his car and opened fire on 46-year-old Jeffrey Limmer, killing him.
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3 minutes ago, BeardIP said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html
You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects.
- Under the PREP Act, companies like Pfizer and Moderna have total immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines.
- A little-known government program provides benefits to people who can prove they suffered serious injury from a vaccine.
- That program rarely pays, covering just 29 claims over the last decade.
We can't sue Armalite or Bushmaster if one of their products has severe side effects either, why should the companies that developed the vaccine be liable?
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32 minutes ago, Parliament said:Ohio might use an anti-Klan law on the protestors.
Ohio Revised Code 3761.12 makes it a felony to commit a crime with two or more people while wearing white caps, masks or other disguise
Oooooh man that's some good turning a shield into a sword and finding an old law meant to target klansmen and now using it to shut down peaceful assembly. To use that law in that way is an implicit equivocation of what these university protesters are doing to what the KKK was doing.
It's diluting what the KKK was and did and STILL FUCKING IS to threaten and target college students with this law
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12 minutes ago, BeardIP said:
Then why make it to where there is legal immunity and the people being compelled to take the vaccinations have no legal remedy, as they usually would? That strikes me as an implicit acknowledgement.
Wtf are you even talking about Chrispy? Links? Or is this just what many people are saying
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9 minutes ago, BeardIP said:Processess that exist sequentially to optimize stafety standards were run in parallel to streamline and expedite production. Again, I get why they did it and support the wartime-esque effort behind it, but I think it's unethical to do that with legal immunity and unreasonably "mandate" the vaccination.
Why do you think these for profit companies do ANYTHING for safety if they aren't legally required to? My guy, they normally do these things one step at a time because of how immensely expensive it is to get a drug or therapy through approvals. Running every option in parallel is how you make massive progress extremely quickly, but you also are going to burn a SHITTON of cash doing so.
The Manhattan Project followed the same ethos; they didn't know what was going to work and what wasn't, so they did everything in parallel at once.
The COVID caccine project/effort was a medical Manhattan Project. It broke new ground into a field of science that had not really been successfully wielded and designed by man yet. mRNA vaccines had been in development since the first SARS outbreak, but it was too risky to pursue because of the potential for failure. The COVID vaccines made it through all the same trials as any other vaccine would - it just didn't do things one step at a time for fear of a failure or setback causing wasted money (and thinner profit margins), because they had a blank check to make it happen.
I just completely disagree with your uncritical and unsupported opinion of it being inherently more dangerous, despite clearing the exact same regulatory and safety bar as every other vaccine and drug.
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On 4/20/2024 at 11:24 PM, Michael Knight said:The gist of the story is that while some of the vaults were actual shelters designed to repopulate the earth at some point the story writers went off the deep end with the dystopian future where vault tec were just crazy bastards who made most of the vaults into social experiments, I blame fallout 3 writers who made almost all the vaults into joke encounters. The original story in fallout 1 was your vaults water chip broke and you had to do out and find a replacement which then got retconned into your water chip being designed to break. And Vaults being populated with 1 man and 99 women and vice versa. Vault 31-33 was another social experiment with connected but separate communities. And 2 of them having designed flaws
SpoilerThe idea of vaults being used as experiments on the inhabitants is from the original fallout games
https://old.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/ej66ru/a_list_of_all_the_vaults_and_their_designated/
And the "Fallout Bible" published by the game's writers in the early 2000's had some pretty nutty ones too
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_known_Vaults#Vaults_in_supplementary_materials
And by the way, did any of yall spot the extra "episode zero" content that Amazon made? It's a bunch of Vault-Tec training videos for early sales associates up to senior junior executives! It's under the "extras" tab for the show
They definitely are making some statements with the show's writing, I'm excited to see where they take it - and glad that Todd Howard is working to build a unified story across the games and show
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12 minutes ago, bolverk said:
The other was just a cavalier asshole about it, who a mutual friend of ours later showed me one of his last FB messages to him that read, and I quote, "I ain't skeered." He caught it about a week later and was dead within the month.
That's some real Herman Cain award shit
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3 hours ago, BeardIP said:I think the issue is that this vaccination was fast-tracked and a lot of the life cycle and governance for bringing a vaccination to market was streamlined and/or parsed down
Care to cite your source on this? The vaccine was fast tracked but didn't skip any approval steps. It was more a matter of moving them to the front of the line for every review process and trial opportunity rather than some shadowy cabal jumping on the opportunity to inject 5G into your kids
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4 minutes ago, We’reTexas said:Also, just a point of order, "national socialist" was an intentional misnomer to troll the socialists and engender working class support. Nazis and authoritarians are intellectually dishonest fucks, whodathunkit
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/
Edit: lulz that an anti-vaxxer is the person making that mistake (judging from clicking on his profile and reading 3 tweets down)
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4 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:
Keeping the status quo would be the middle. Increasing shipments of weapons would lean too far right, restricting shipments leans too far left and thus they are handing “red meat” to the opposition who will use it like a cudgel during this election cycle to sway those in the middle.
It’s highly likely that anyone supporting Palestine is already in your camp. So while you can celebrate this as a short term win for that cause, this may be one of the things that could hand the election of your the opposition. And if they win, what do you think the ramifications will be to the Palestinian cause? Win the battle but lose the war.
Historically speaking, shutting up and sitting on your hands and hoping that the authoritarians will stop and go away is not very successful. Analyzing every action taken and worrying about "handing red meat" is a red herring.
They'll always find something to demonize and convert into red meat for the base. So just do what you were gonna do already because they already were going to grab whatever they could find and swing it like a cudgel.




Elon Musk: Nazi traitor piece of shit [Confirmed]
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What if you just never worried about what you were reading and watching from your Twitter feed or who wrote it and just took it at face value and ran as fast as you could for the culture war clout?