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Captainant

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    Edited by Captainant

    10 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

     

    CNN just reported that his personally owned and registered truck was found parked on the south end of capitol grounds with molotovs, 2 handguns, an AR, and cans of gasoline inside. His arraignment is gonna be a fucking doozie. 

  2.  

    Yeah, nancy fucking pelosi is the problem here, not the FUCKING VIOLENT MOB THAT KILLED A FEDERAL OFFICER WHILE STORMING THE FUCKING CAPITOL WITH THE STATED INTENT OF HANGING THE VP AND """STOPPING THE STEAL"""

    fucks sake, yall. The impeachment vote isn't going to be anything but symbolic. Acting like it would remove trump before the 20th is just some limp-dick concern trolling.

    Surly deserves higher-effort trolling than just concern trolling.

  3. 23 hours ago, Captainant said:

    Eric Feigl-Ding on Twitter: "Many are wondering about this USA TODAY photo  - why was this rioter who stormed US Capitol holding that ZIP Tie?  Speculation is swirling that the Zip tie

    Yeah I'm sure this guy was just asking questions

    update: reporters on the scene heard multiple rioters hoping to execute the VP

     

    Guess the terrorist in full tactical gear invading the cradle of our democracy didn't just want to ask questions

  4. 4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    I actually think there is a chance he’s done as well.  And that’s before the Lincoln Project really goes after him.    Him tweeting out about the dead cop cements it.   He loved pretending he had the tiger by the tail.  

    Man there's all sort of relevant anti-fascist quotes. Churchill comes to mind: "Dictators ride to and fro upon tigers from which they dare not dismount. And the tigers are getting hungry."

    Cruz is gonna get eaten by his own for leaving them out to dry, and he's going to be a pariah for the rest of his life

  5. 8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    The problem with Trump has never been his policies, his actions (those are just a side effect).  The problem is the man himself.  He is a poison, and we have ingested the whole bottle.  The next two weeks will tell us whether we live or die as a result of our stupid, stupid fucking action that even the enablers said at the time would kill us.

    it's interesting you comment that trump is a poison - lady G gave an interview to the Daily Show in March 2016 in which he described electing cruz as "drinking poison" and trump as "shooting yourself"

    It's quite a fucking fall from grace. What a craven pussy

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    Edited by Captainant

    I'm waiting until there's more sourcing to start treating it like it's 100% true, but there's a significant amount of reporting from actual journalistic outfits that there were off-duty cops and military service members that were flashing their ID's as a way to bypass capitol police.

     

    EDIT: and lawmakers have been identified as participating in the insurrection as well

     

     

  7. 6 minutes ago, Helobious said:

    It was a very weird scene at the Capitol for sure. I believe most of the officers were doing their best but it’s also clear many were not. I hope the police in Texas won’t stand for that BS. Wonder if the news today about that officer possibly getting beaten to death during the riot will change their minds. The night shift riot police that took over were noticeably more forceful and borderline abusive to the Trump supports when pushing them back from the Capitol. Hard to blame them.

    That was DC metro PD. They didn't have jurisdiction until the rioters were off capitol grounds. Not sure why they gave them 45 grace minutes during curfew though.

    During the other civil unrest in DC this year, they kettled protesters before curfew and then arrested them for breaking curfew. 

    The stark difference of treatment deserves more questions and answers

  8. 9 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

    What's her new committee? Rules? I mean, in 2 weeks does she have the power being in the house to launch any kind of action against a Senator?

    IIRC she was named chair of the oversight committee. 

    So that's a bingo

  9. 5 minutes ago, CDAK said:

    I can't respond to all the comments. I can reiterate my position one more time. You're justifying the deadly force with all the comments about secret service, secured area, etc. That's a separate argument from whether they used more or less force compared to other protests. Killing someone is a higher level of force than hitting 100 with a baton in my opinion. Fee free to disagree as Hobbes did.

    Please. Watch this video and tell me that you wouldn't use deadly force to defend your home if you were in that situation. If you would use deadly force to stop that woman coming into your home, then why isn't the fucking CONSTITUTIONAL LINE OF PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESSION worth using deadly force to defend from an invader?

    (warning: death)

    https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ksgvin/hes_got_a_gun_synced_videos_showing_woman_not/

  10. link warning: death

    https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ksgvin/hes_got_a_gun_synced_videos_showing_woman_not/

    watch the video. It's four different videos from the scene synchronized.

    You're telling me that the MOB breaking down a barricaded door with UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICERS JUST FUCKIN STANDING NEXT TO THEM DOING JACK FUCKING SHIT was treated equivalently to capitol PD's earlier performances this year? Fuck you, and fuck everyone else who would argue that the trump insurrectionists didn't get the white glove treatment from capitol police.

     

    Nevermind the fucking bad faith horseshit that secret service doesn't walk the streets, they aren't normal cops, and aren't really known to be the guys murdering black men in the streets for kicks misdemeanor offenses.

    Secret service wasn't the police shooting pepper balls and rubber bullets at people with their hands up months ago. Capitol Police were.

  11. 9 minutes ago, CDAK said:

    I'm not trolling or posting in bad faith. I think bullets are a higher level of force than batons, tear gas, pepper spray, etc. Killing a person with a bullet is a higher level of force than pepper spraying 1,000 people - at least to me. Did the woman killed have a gun or any type of weapon? 

    The police can protect federal buildings without shooting and killing people. Protestors in Portland tried to enter a federal building day after day. Shockingly, the police didn't have to kill any of them (again, please correct me if I'm wrong about that).

    [I don't know why you moved the post as I just disagreed with a take of yours on the other thread. I quoted you and disagreed. But you're moving the thread because I want to talk politics?]

    I moved the convo here because the nature of our disagreement is political and you're making arguments in bad faith to hide that.

    The woman wasn't killed at the perimeter of the Capitol, not along a fence, not in the streets in front of it. She was deep inside the capitol, past several lines of defenses, trying to break into a secured area holding multiple elected officials.

    The Capitol is a secured area - normal folks are NOT allowed to carry firearms in there. There were multiple people in that mob arrested for carrying LOADED FIREARMS WITH AN EXTRA MAG into the fucking Capitol.

    Do you think secret fucking service agents are just fucking around waiting to find out? No, they are there as a last line of defense against fucking crazy people trying to cause harm to elected officials.

    This dead woman had just about every fucking possible sign post to stand the fuck down - orders of magnitude more than was offered to the BLM folks. She was even told by the people next to her that GUNS WERE POINTED AT HER but she chose to go through anyways.

    I don't know how you can compare this dead woman to BLM people in any way, shape, or form.

  12. 6 minutes ago, CDAK said:

    But now you're arguing that the higher level of force used yesterday was justified due to the circumstances. Your prior point was that cops used less force against the white, Trump supporters. 

    Moving the conversation over here because you want to talk politics

    Cops used significantly less force against these red hats than they did against BLM earlier this year. They were fucking people up for looking at them wrong while wearing BLM gear. Teakettling them and mass arresting them and aggressively enforcing curfews, that kind of shit.

    Capitol police took blows, got into fist fights, and had irritants sprayed on them by the insurrectionists yesterday. The cops fucking held their hands while walking down the stairs. Shit, the cops outside the door where the woman was shot carried her out to medical attention - AND THEY CONTINUED TO TREAT THE REST OF THE MOB AS GOOD FAITH ACTORS.

    You are trolling and posting in bad faith if you can't see the difference.

  13. 2 minutes ago, CDAK said:

    So you're drawing a distinction between different types of law enforcement? Cops v. secret service agents. That's not compelling to me.

    I think it's a little disingenuous to equivocate boots (and knees) on necks protesting police brutality in the street to a secret service agent in a suit plugging an insurrectionist literally coming through the windows inside the capitol building, while interrupting the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral college votes.

  14. 2 minutes ago, CDAK said:

    The police shot and killed one of the protestors at the Capitol yesterday. A white female Trump supporter. That's pretty fucking significant force.

    FWIW it wasn't a cop who shot the woman, if the video is anything to go by. She was trying to climb through a barricaded window into a secure area that had a number of elected officials. A man in a suit stepped out, and calmly shot her once the second she put a leg through the window opening. 

    Getting shot by what appears to be a secret service agent while invading a secured space in the nation's capitol is NOT equivalent to what happened with the BLM protests and riots.

  15. 21 minutes ago, immamac said:

    it looks like the 2 primary webservers got some weird long running requests that gunked things up. I was on some work calls, but everything should be fine now. 

    what is it doing for you @Captainant?

     

    I can click the buttons, but "show me my cookie" doesn't generate a "Server web01" response or anything on the page, and I'm unsure if delete my cookie actually does anything along the same lines.

    Not a biggie

  16. 46 minutes ago, immamac said:

    fixed web01 kinda melted down. Any time this happens feel free to switch servers

    FWIW cookie monster doesn't seem to work/do anything in my mobile browser - fully updated Samsung browser on galaxy s10+

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