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Captainant

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  1. 3 minutes ago, Iceman said:

    Motherfucker, I don't think we're on a different page on this one...

     

    But keep stabbing that windmill, bro.  Why do you just ignore the second sentence of my post?

    My apologies, I misread your second sentence of "Everyone in the scenario is certainly not a Rosa Parks or MLK, Jr." as a set-up for some both sides equivocating bullshit.

    My b, been drinking and watching the world burn a little hotter than usual tonight

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  2. 5 minutes ago, Iceman said:

    Indeed. Everyone in the scenario is certainly not a Rosa Parks or MLK, Jr.

    Doesn't mean our society is responding at the correct pace, either.

    Motherfucker you need to go back a couple pages and read the quoted portion from MLK's "Other America" speech. Riots are the language of those who have no voice. 

    These people resort to violence and riots because they have no other means to be heard. 

    Does that make their actions just and right? Absolutely fucking not. But, if you're interested in ending the cycle of hate and violence, it's important to understand WHY people feel this is what they MUST do to be heard. 

    Shit, the fucking DA has been equivocating all fucking day about some possible evidence that could harm their prosecution as if that's a reason to drag their feet on convening a grand jury or issuing arrest warrants. You or I do what that cop did, we would be in jail. 

    This pig has a shiny star on his shirt, so he gets the thin blue line to protect him from consequences. 

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  3. 20 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

    Man, if any cops die in that fire, it's gonna look awfully different there tomorrow night.  

    I hope this satisfies the crowd and this shit starts to die down before a whole bunch of people get hurt.

    Just think if the local police had just arrested the man who murdered a person and had it fully recorded on video from multiple angles. If anyone not wearing a badge had done the same, they would be behind bars waiting to get out on bail. This murderer had an armed phalanx of 50+ cops outside his house last night. 

    This pure unfiltered RAGE is the fruit of decades of inequity of justice and law enforcement. 

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  4. 14 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

    I’ve said this before, but there’s nothing stimulating or interesting to me about coming here and piling on every time I disagree with POTUS. Y’all have it covered. 
     

    I’m sorry you’re not impressed by my level of objection to it. I’ll try to do better. 

    You've got a real Susan Collins vibe going lol. I'm sure you're VERY concerned

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  5. 2 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

    Like the vast majority of police officers, he doesn't live in the city he works (that's a discussion for another thread). The department that went to his house had no role to play at the scene of the protests.

    There was a legitimate threat to the safety of the residents of that house as well as the people protesting,so they responded. The amount of officers on scene was likely to ensure their own safety, and deter violence- which appears to have worked.

    Or the army of cops could have turned around and arrested the murderer they were protecting, and the protesters wouldn't be gathering at his house.

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  6. 5 minutes ago, Hate said:

    Doesn’t it stand to reason as we see fewer and fewer at risk people out and about that the numbers of hospitalizations and deaths will continue to trend down? If, for the most part, the only people catching the virus going forward are this that are asymptomatic or nit sick enough to warrant hospitalization, the virus is going to run out of people to kill.

    You'd hope as much, but the people who go out and about tend to at some point have first or second degree contact with an at-risk person. As it stands, our current effort at social distancing has insulated those people. Only problem is, the virus isn't going to just go away like a miracle if we hope really hard, and there's still plenty of people for the virus to kill.

    Based on current number of 1.7 million confirmed COVID cases, if we assume that we haven't tested ANY asymptomatic patients (let's say 80% of COVID cases are asymptomatic for sake of argument) and that number is only representative of symptomatic cases, that's only 10 million COVID cases. In a nation of 300 million people. For a total case rate around 3% of the US population.

  7. As a chaser to the MLK quote - the police sure do care about protecting the murderer

     

    A fucking company-level deployment of cops protecting a murderer while the city burns because of his actions and their collective inaction against him.

  8. 2 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

    I wish they knew the difference between protesting and rioting/looting.  It would go a long way

    Let me say as I've always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. I'm still convinced that nonviolence is the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and justice. I feel that violence will only create more social problems than they will solve. That in a real sense it is impracticable for the Negro to even think of mounting a violent revolution in the United States. So I will continue to condemn riots, and continue to say to my brothers and sisters that this is not the way. And continue to affirm that there is another way.

    But at the same time, it is as necessary for me to be as vigorous in condemning the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities as it is for me to condemn riots. I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention.

    - MLK, "The Other America", 1967

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  9. 2 minutes ago, HoffaJimmy said:

    The next couple of months for a shit ton of small business owners who drive the middle class will be telling. 

    IMO, the fact that the formal economic projections haven't been released yet is a bellweather for the economic hardship to come. 

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  10. Just now, Hate said:

    And you just had to respond, didn't you? 

    Taking this convo out of the thread so it doesn't spiral further out of control.

    Yeah, I responded because this is a fucking FORUM for DISCUSSION. And it's my perogative to point out that if they're criticizing a state-level response to COVID and the bad decisions made there, they should also be considering the federal-level response because they have fucked it up at every single possible step along the way and have given the states the worst possible hand to play.

    Ignoring that reality is lying to yourself and building an echo chamber.

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