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3 minutes ago, blacklab said:
I moved several posts about Trump's trip to church to another thread.
It should no longer be discussed here
I really disagree with this move. This is shaping the narrative and preventing a full discussion of what the fuck is going on.
It was just "a trip to church". It was federal and military police sweeping and clearing a lawful peaceful protest in memory of George Floyd. Protesters were being shot at and bowled over by cops with their hands up and chanting George Floyd.
That belongs in the thread about George Floyd's death. This is your site and you can run it how you want, but this is taking measures to shape the discussion and disqualify topics arbitrarily. Shame on you.
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8 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:Right such as the fact that the crowd was ordered to disperse to comply with the curfew. The order was ignored. Watching CNN last night there was not a mention of this in order to try to frame things as an unprovoked, unannounced violent crowd dispersal.
"As Mr. Trump delivered a speech in the Rose Garden vowing to send the military to states where governors could not bring rioting under control but calling himself “an ally of all peaceful protesters,” the sound of explosions and the yells of demonstrators could be heard. After receiving repeated warnings to disperse before the city’s curfew, the crowd was tear-gassed."
I am not surprised but disappointed in the Bishop of DC's comments. It is what I have come to expect from our church leadership. At least our Presiding Bishop was less inflammatory in his denunciation. It would be nice if the Episcopal Church leadership would realize that being partisan has driven away lots of people from our church. I stick around because I love the liturgy and don't want my faith to be comfortable to me. I want to have my beliefs challenged and my heart softened and changed. I have to battle my biases, upbringing and sick mind.
First off: I have not seen or heard ANY reporting of orders to disburse, including from the church's volunteers who were also shot at while administering water to flush out tear gas from protesters eyes.
It was not curfew yet, and the protesters were demonstrating peacefully. The federal and military police had no justifiable reason to attack and forcefully remove the protesters from public property and space. Full stop.
Never mind the reason for pushing the protesters out before the curfew: the president wanted to walk out at exactly 7:01 PM, citizens rights be damned. It's a complete disregard for their right to peaceful protest and demonstration, and subjecting the rights of citizens to the whims of the executive.
That is a simple recitation of the facts. You are willfully misrepresenting the facts and distorting the truth to justify your love of violence against groups you dislike.
Hope you're not wearing a brown shirt today
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Interesting time to defend and minimize police brutality, EMAW. Boots really getting a spitshine.
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19 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:
So let’s bring race back into the equation.
We have documented incidents of white cops being racist and killing unarmed black men. As a result, the prevailing thought is that all cops are bad and white people are racist. At best, SOME cops are good, based on personal interactions or family relations.
We have documented incidents of black people acting like violent criminals. Yet, the same transitive properties don’t apply. We don’t label all black people as bad based on the actions of some. We accept that, on a whole, black people are unfairly treated based on the actions of the minority of the population. This is a broad stroke applied that doesn’t necessarily have the benefit of personal interactions or family relations.
This seems hypocritical and an argument based on emotion.
On the other hand: you have a decision if you're going to be a cop or not.
If you're black, you're black.
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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:
Waiting to see who is going to show up to defend this clip.
Well sack is in timeout
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1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:
At least you enjoyed the movie. I never have reported a post my whole time as a poster but the last few pages of that shit made it tempting. I can’t remember a thread getting that fucked up that quickly.
I mean talking about if Jesus endorses "chopping up babies" or not seems like a pretty bright line in my book for a thread on police brutality.
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I don't understand the comparison between news networks here. Who is showing video and footage from the front lines and who is putting talking heads on to tell you what happened? Stick to the facts. Do your civic fucking duty and watch for yourself what is happening right now.
See the looters, see the riots.
And fucking see the police attacking peaceful protesters and journalists for no reason but to just to clear out a walking path for a photo op for the president.
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Just now, Xian said:
Watching trumps speech now.
dark timesExplosions in the background are a nice touch, imo. Very cinematic
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2 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:
What happened? We’re they given an order to disperse and refused? The government needs to reassert control now. Federal troops need to be in the streets. No 1st world country other than France would put up with this as long as we have. People aren’t going to respect the pigs. Get our troops and display overwhelming force,
They were given no orders to disburse or to leave. The cops attacked them.
Go watch what fucking happened.
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4 minutes ago, Iceman said:
Let me be clear: I do not want conflict.
At a certain point, you take the country back from the shitheads. They had their 'fun,' now settle the fuck down and get back in mommy's basement.
I am 100% supportive of protests/ demonstrations. I'm not down with looting, destruction, and mayhem. If that bothers some folks, IDGAF.
Goodnight and Godspeed to you.
The police at the White house attacked peaceful protesters to push them out of the way to make a walking path so the president could take a picture with a Bible in front of the St John's Church.
The protesters were not violent. They were attacked and forcefully shoved out of the way.
That's not political. That is a recitation of what happened.
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3 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:
Mods are going to have to bust out the tear gas and declare martial law soon.
#notallmods
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He literally walked over, held up a Bible, took pictures, and walked back.
All of that violence and pain.
Just for a picture.
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2 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:
What is this clown doing?
Getting a photo op, duh.
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So what's the position of the site on use of military force against civilians in policing actions and what should be considered "too political" for open discourse about it?
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Use of military force has been authorized for policing of US citizens.
And was first used to set up a photo op at the burned St John's Church.
Think about that.
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They apparently cleared out the protesters to make a path for the president to go to the St John's Church for a photo op.
That's where he's headed.
And he shot rubber bullets and teargas and rubber bullet claymore mines at the protesters who were objectively peaceful to clear a path.
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1 minute ago, Michael Knight said:
so no one wants to comment on the use of american military forces on citizens?
There were trucks of soldiers in BDU's with full battle rattle going into the Whitehouse lawn area about 10 minutes before the cops started attacking the protesters
The protesters did nothing to start violence. There were cameras all over it, and everyone was chanting with their hands up. And then the flashbangs and tear gas came out
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So do we talk about the coming police state in this thread, or should I make a new one?
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We are a failed democracy
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Military police just closed the gap and are face to face with the protesters outside the Whitehouse lawn who have their hands up chanting don't shoot.
This is like something out of a movie before everyone starts shooting
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I fucking hope there's no bottom in there
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Y'all need to turn on the news. Barr is on the White House lawn staring down protesters behind an army of cops, national guard members, and secret service agents.
And the president is about to have a speech from the rose garden.
This shit is fucking wild.
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Y'all need to turn on the news. Barr is on the White House lawn staring down protesters behind an army of cops, national guard members, and secret service agents.
And the president is about to have a speech from the rose garden.
This shit is fucking wild.
Early reports is talk of the Insurrection Act being invoked to deploy national guard. And Abbot just signed an EO to allow federal agents to operate with state authority and powers
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Trump goes to church
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Yeah because firing tear gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters is totally not police brutality and literal assaults on the right to peaceful assembly.