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It seems very unlikely that the Pac schools will be signing anything ever again.

Having been informed by an SEC representative (some dude on the internet) that, having last option and being last to act(fully owned by ESPN into 2030's), if the SEC were to ever add G5 teams they would prefer UC, ECU and USF. They probably just stay at 14 for a while but if things ever changed and it made sense for them to make a couple adds in highly valuable territory, and UC was already in B1G I have been informed they would look at USF and ECU. SECWestLSUaTmMissouriArkNorthUKTennesseeVanderbiltECUSouthBamaAUOle MissMiss StEastUGAFLSCUSF

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In Reply to: posted by BruinSpud on March 26, 2020 at 18:28:09 Their athletic-specific endowment was around $500MM in 2013, and assuredly has grown since then. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-odd-economics-of-stanford-football-1383796720 Relevant graf for this discussion: "The normal revenues Stanford receives from football are so low, in fact, that its 36 varsity sports teams depend on something no other school has, or would dare rely so heavily on: an athletics-only endowment worth between $450 million and $500 million that pays out at 5.5% each year, people familiar with the matter said." As the full article is behind a subscriber paywall, please see it below: Fifth-ranked Stanford, once again in the mix for the Pac-12 title and maybe even more, pounded No. 3 Oregon, 26-20, on Thursday in one of this college-football season's biggest games, making the Cardinal the only team to slow down the Ducks the last two years. That makes this as good a time as any to ponder one of this sport's great mysteries: How is Stanford doing it? There is no single reason for Stanford's rise from a pushover—one that supposedly couldn't compete because of its tough academic standards—to a powerhouse that wins because of them. The transformational 2007-to-2010 tenure of coach Jim Harbaugh, who has since gone on to the San Francisco 49ers, was clearly pivotal. So is the program's growing ability to convince elite high-school recruits of a Stanford degree's value. But there is another critical factor behind the Cardinal's ascent: the way Stanford finances its football program. Stanford isn't like other football powers. It can't generate as much cash from its fans, since it doesn't have nearly as many. Stanford Stadium seats about 50,000—half the size of some venues in the Southeastern and Big Ten conferences. The school accounted for $9.7 million in football ticket sales on its 2012 annual report. The four teams ranked above Stanford in the latest Bowl Championship Series standings averaged $27 million, with Ohio State topping the list at $41 million. In merchandise sales, Stanford ranked 42nd this year on the Collegiate Licensing Company's list of top-selling schools, well behind not just Texas but also Texas Tech. The normal revenues Stanford receives from football are so low, in fact, that its 36 varsity sports teams depend on something no other school has, or would dare rely so heavily on: an athletics-only endowment worth between $450 million and $500 million that pays out at 5.5% each year, people familiar with the matter said. The way Stanford keeps up in the college-football arms race is to lean on private donations. As a result, almost everything the football program touches is endowed, from each of the school's 85 football scholarships to David Shaw's head-coaching position. Stanford's offensive coordinator is even known as the Andrew Luck Director of Offense in honor of an anonymous gift in 2012. "Many have looked at Stanford to say: 'How can we make that happen at our place?'" said Stanford athletic director Bernard Muir. Given that Stanford sits in the heart of Silicon Valley, and many of its graduates are making untold millions, it seems like fundraising should be easy. But most football donors are well past 50, and younger donors can be hard to find, since football was mostly an afterthought on campus until recently. In its attempt to build a football program this way, though, Stanford does benefit from a specialized network of benefactors most schools can only dream about. Among the young Stanford alumni crowding into a New York sports bar on a recent Saturday night was Salman Al-Rashid, 26, who attended Stanford just as the Cardinal football team was becoming relevant again. As that night's Stanford game against Oregon State played on televisions around him, Al-Rashid sat at a table in the back, wearing a Rose Bowl sweatshirt and eating chicken wings. Earlier this year, Al-Rashid pledged a $500,000 donation to Stanford's football program, a highly unexpected gift given his age and background. He grew up in Saudi Arabia, where his only access to football was an American Forces Network feed. He moved to New Jersey when he was 12 and had his first experience playing the game in a prep-school intramural league. When Al-Rashid was at Stanford, the team's success produced some formative experiences. He recalls rushing the field after Stanford beat rival California in 2007, for instance, and he has a photo on his phone commemorating an improbable win that season over 41-point-favorite Southern California, a game that ranks as one of the biggest upsets in college-football history. But what was most unusual about Al-Rashid's donation to the football program is that nobody at Stanford saw it coming. "He was on no one's radar," said Joe Karlgaard, Rice's athletic director, who led athletic fundraising at Stanford until October. "No one at the university knew who he was." Football philanthropy runs in Al-Rashid's family. He is the son of Saudi businessman Nasser Al-Rashid, who fell in love with the game as an undergraduate at Texas. Despite never seeing a snap before moving to the U.S. for college, he ended up giving funds for the Texas weight room in the 1980s. He has since invested in several renovations, most recently a few months ago, to the Dr. Nasser Al-Rashid Strength Complex, considered one of the finest in the game. But the younger Al-Rashid was never identified as a potential donor by Stanford's athletic department. His gift was only the result of Al-Rashid introducing himself to a member of Stanford's athletic board at an alumni gathering last year to hear Muir speak in a private setting. Al-Rashid hadn't even been invited to the event. Al-Rashid and Karlgaard, Stanford's former development director, discussed the athletics endowment as one option for his donation. But others beat him to their checkbooks before Al-Rashid could fund the defensive-coordinator or strength-coach positions. As it turns out, Al-Rashid came along as the football team was raising funds for a 27,000-square-foot addition to a building named for the family of John Arrillaga, a 76-year-old Stanford benefactor whose $151 million gift to the university this year was its largest from a living donor. The facility includes new player lockers, coaching offices, a study lounge and a meeting room with theater-style seating. Al-Rashid, who manages an investment fund that focuses on the Mongolian and Southeast Asian markets, decided to earmark his gift for this football building, which opened this month. The meeting room for the defensive line and defensive coaching staff—which dominated Oregon on Thursday—carries Al-Rashid's name and graduation class. He is also listed on a plaque with other backers, such as former Stanford quarterbacks Jim Plunkett and John Elway, who had his No. 7 jersey retired at halftime of this week's Stanford win. While it may seem like an anomaly, Al-Rashid's experience suggests that Stanford's football economic model, which depends on passion more than anything else, could work long into the future. In fact, Al-Rashid cares so deeply about the Cardinal that he watched Stanford's overtime upset of Oregon last season from Beijing, celebrating with dumplings and baijiu. "I just want to support the program and make sure it has long-term, sustained success," said Al-Rashid, who watched Thursday's game from the stadium. "The athletics at Stanford epitomize what the university is all about."

I like the Big12 as is and playing everyone else as well. However, when a once in a lifetime golden opportunity comes along I think you have to take it. In this case, not taking it could come back to bite the Big12 in the rear.

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I heart pods

Pedo St making moral judgements? I mean don't get me wrong, Baylor is filthy trash, but I am sure that Pedo St is the most vile, disgusting, perverse piece of sh$% institution the world has ever seen, other than the SS of course.

It makes plenty of obvious sense, keep at it and it will come to you.

Which are richest and poorest college football programs? New revenue figures for all 65 Power Five schoolsUpdated 11:24 AM; Today 5:05 AMhttps://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2020/03/which-are-richest-and-poorest-college-football-programs-new-revenue-figures-for-all-65-power-five-schools.html#55 Missouri $38.5 million #36 Southern California $50.0 million Yikes #35 Texas Tech $51.1 million #33 Oklahoma State $52.2 million #25 Utah $63.2 million #22 Texas Christian $65.4 million #21 Florida State $68.9 million Highest ACC #20 Oregon $72.1 million #19 Texas A&M $73.5 million #15 Washington $84.0 million #10 Nebraska $94.3 million #8 Oklahoma $94.8 million #4 Notre Dame $115.5 million #1 Texas $156.1 million

Sadly that beat is already lost. Boy was it glorious and never to be matched. Bill Belichick, the greatest coach of all time still in charge though. I was also hyperbolizing a bit as a joke to hype Andy Dalton, considering the rumors. As a Horned Frog originally from New England, AD assuming TB's throne is pretty much my NFL wet dream.

Life long Pats fan here. This is what the Pats do, they cut their vets early, every time. Hard to call this early, but if Tom Terrific isn't ready to quit then it is early from his perspective, same as all the other vets they didn't resign that seemed to have a year or 2 left. Its good business, as cold as it is, isn't, or may seem. It's the Patriot way since the Kraft Belichick era. Pats won't miss a beat thought, AD the next TB.

Utah Would Be In Real Trouble If Pac-12 Loses Marquee Teams Share BY JEREMY MAUSS, KSL SPORTS MARCH 10, 2020 AT 10:17 AM https://kslsports.com/430182/utah-would-be-in-real-trouble-if-pac-12-loses-marquee-teams/ “It hurts Utah, and that is an easy question to answer. There is still a conference there and it is good. I think everyone is disappointed with the move the Pac-12 did and it really is with the TV network,” Mitchell said. “The problem is that everyone thought there was going to be a whole lot more revenue generated. These schools are saying, ‘we would get a better deal from ESPN, NBC, any of them, Fox Network independently than the type of revenue generated and this all driven by TV.” The money disparity is only going to get bigger as the Big Ten and SEC continue to gain in popularity and the ACC has its own league-network but it is owned by ESPN so the distribution from the start has been miles ahead of the Pac-12. If the conference were to lose the big three in Washington, USC, and Oregon, what would the league do? “Utah has no leverage, they have zero leverage. They are, quite frankly, to just happy to be there,” Mitchell said. “Arizona is the same way, Arizona State, Oregon State is the same, and most of the Pac-12. Really, only USC, Oregon and Washington [have leverage].”

Which Conference has leverage?

Good stuff, Thanks

So putting that 3rd tier content, USC,UCLA,UO,UW, on the Big12 NOW ESPN+ app would please everyone or no?

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Cal baseball played a 3 game series in Fort Worth last weekend. Their Football team starts a home and home w/TCU this year that will see them coming to Fort Worth again next year. USC basketball was in Fort Worth 2 months ago. I'm pretty sure Stanford tennis was in Fort Worth last week too. Non-issue, those Cail schools are loaded and don't need govnt money, they got other monies.

USC joining the Big 12 down the line 'makes a lot of sense' ByNICK KOSKO 84 minutes ago https://247sports.com/Article/USC-joining-the-Big-12-down-the-line-makes-a-lot-of-sense-Trojans-PAC-12-television-contract-2024-144592787/ Ideally, Abraham believes USC and other PAC 12 members would need to make a move to the Big 12 to ensure the biggest bang for their buck. The PAC 12 expanded to 12 teams in 2011 when they added Colorado and Utah. If USC were to leave, a second team would likely join them so the conference could rebrand back to their old PAC 10 moniker. “Joining the Big 12 with other PAC 12 members makes a lot of sense,” Abraham said. “Just having your own tier three rights would be such an upgrade over what they're getting now with the PAC 12 networks. So I think something like this is realistic over the next couple of years but it starts with USC getting their act together first.”

Analysis: For Larry Scott’s tenure as Pac-12 commissioner, the future is now https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/analysis-for-larry-scotts-tenure-as-pac-12-commissioner-the-future-is-now/ hold esc during load to bypass blocker The Pac-12’s unique structure, with a wholly-owned media company, adds another layer to the timing for the presidents and chancellors to consider. The negotiations likely to begin in the fall of 2022 won’t be restricted to the future of the Tier One content currently owned by ESPN and Fox. They would include the Pac-12 Networks’ inventory of football, basketball and Olympic sports. Scott believes that by placing everything on the table at once, the conference would be better positioned for a jackpot. But because the content on the Pac-12 Networks isn’t licensed to a media partner, there are no restrictions on the conference’s ability to begin exploratory discussions specific to that inventory. As a result, Scott (or his successor) could conceivably begin to formulate a broader media strategy well in advance of the formal Tier One negotiations. “(With) the potential equity investment and selection of a consultant and things along those lines,” a source said of Scott’s future, “they should start pretty soon.”

Canzano: Oregon Ducks need to join USC and put Pac-12 Conference on noticeUpdated 2:00 PM; Today 10:25 AM https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2020/03/canzano-oregon-ducks-need-to-join-usc-and-put-pac-12-conference-on-notice.html

The fact that you ended w/ UH to the SEC, should tell you that the conversation, and line of thinking took a wrong turn somewhere.