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  1. after the game plan vs Texas can you blame the guy for sniffing around elsewhere? No, I don't blame him. In fact, I said OU'd lose commits. It's only weird he'd chose ND because their QB development has been poor. i hope he takes a visit, i would love to see Venables pressed on his dumb ass "take visits and get your offer yanked" policy. because it is dumb. The policy, as I understand it, is that OU no longer considers you committed if you take other visits. I don't think they rescind the offer. That said, OU's policy is dumb. I said so several months ago and was surprised OU's gotten such a good class with it in place. I fully expect Venables to keep his pledge to rescind the commitment. At the press conference after the UT game, Venables was visibly shaken and expressed some humility. That humility was gone by early this week based on his press conferences. So far, this staff appears uninterested in shifting directions. losing Arnold would be a tremendous loss in the class. dude has been locked in for 10 months and OU only has offers out to three QBs this cycle: Malachi Nelson (who Riley was chasing for years), Arnold and Jaden Rashada who also i am guessing was an offer by the prior staff. OU didn't make his final 7. Yes, Nelson and Rashada were Riley offers. Lebby has not pursued either. As I mentioned above, OU'll be looking in the portal, regardless of Arnold because it's stupid to expect a freshman to lead a Big 12 team. that is a QB room that greatly needs some high end talent. Gabriel and Beeville, Booty (didn't realize he was unranked entirely?), Evers (who was a good get but looks as skinny as Jerrod Heard at QB which isn't good) and Arnold. Evers looks like a basketball player in body-type and because he likes to throw bounce passes. a QB room without Gabriel AND Arnold is going to be very very not good. Of course. That's the room we saw in Dallas. see i am interested to see how BV sells things. you guys are in a position where you can point to results and say "see, you can be the guy starting next year over these clowns" and offer early PT. Venables has a great history of being an excellent defensive coach and it isn't like that just goes away. guessing a lot of it is the kind of players he wants/recruits are not the kind of players the prior regime wanted/recruited on the defensive side. Good coaches are able to modify their scheme to their players skills. It's the old Bum Phillips' quote "Bryant can take his'n and beat your'n, and then he can turn around and take your'n and beat his'n." In basketball, Popovich is one the best at modifying his strategies to fit his teams (that is until he decided to ignore that 3-point line). Venables, if he were the coach he was reputed to be, would've taught his principles while molding a better defense. Instead, he's beaten down his defense and put a poor product on the field. And yet he's convinced he's doing it the right way.
  2. Timed out before edit completed -- sorry for double posting I don't know if Jackson Arnold is good or bad or in the middle. I do know that Tommy Rees (ND OC and QB coach) was bad as a QB. Ian Book is the best QB he's developed. So if Arnold aspires to that, good luck. Gabriel will probably be around for another year at OU so the Sooners may be able to take a mulligan on 2023 high school QB recruiting, if needed. Clearly, they'll need to be in the transfer portal looking for a backup for Gabriel. Also, I fully expect OU to lose commits, but I'm more worried about DL and DB commits. It's clear to everyone that OU's coaches are unable to deploy the current players well.
  3. I don't know if Jackson Arnold is good or bad or in the middle. I do know that Tommy Rees (ND OC and QB coach) was bad as a QB. Ian Book is the best QB he's developed. So if Arnold aspires to that, good luck. Gabriel will probably be around for another year at OU so the Sooners may be able to take a mulligan on QB recruiting 2023 if needed.
  4. I was hoping for Moore when he was Michigan's TE coach. I agree it would be a downgrade based on where he's got the Wolverine's OL.
  5. @Hornlover In the very next paragraph, I talk about replacing Valai and Roof. So, yeah, I get it. You'll have to show me where Bedenbaugh has put together a top OL in the last 4 years. Definitely, Rattler and Caleb Williams held the ball too long, inflating sack numbers. But OU hasn't had a dominant run game without Jalen Hurts at QB since 2019. There's been a big decline in the OL. Are there worse OL coaches out there? Definitely. Has Bedenbaugh lived up to his clippings? Not close, and it's getting worse.
  6. Versus K-St, Gabriel's third down play vs Martinez was a pivotal difference in the game. OU went 0-for 3rd and long. Nebraska went 3/6 in the same situation. Based on their performances at their prior stops and even earlier this year, I would've guessed Gabriel would've vastly out-performed Martinez in obvious passing downs. Versus TCU, Gabriel was again off-target on third down, but OU's defense getting SHREDDED made it so that it wasn't going to matter.
  7. Gabriel has at least one more year of eligibility. That said, QB isn't the biggest longterm problem. Throw Davis Beville on the 2016 to 2018 OU offenses, and OU may have kept it competitive for a half. OU's OL would have churned out enough yards to keep UT's offenses off the field more and led to a couple of legitimate drives. 2022 was Bedenbaugh's prove it year. I'm a hard out on him. The OTs have promise, but they've got other options on the interior. The OG play the last two years has been average or worse and C has been worse than that. I want to see other guys get snaps at this point. Unless I see marked improvement on the OL by year's end, Bedenbaugh needs to go. (This'll never happened of course because Lebby and Bill are tight back from when Bill recruited Lebby in high school). OU doesn't have the skill position talent they did back then, but it's still top 2-3 in the conference and probably top 20 nationally. RB has Gray who's playing the best he has at OU, which is above average. Major was looking good before an injury. Barnes looks very promising, and Sawchuk had hype in high school at least. Mims and Farooq are really good WR. They have other freshmen with talent, and Stoops and Wease deserves more touches as possession receivers. OU needs to bring down Sherrone Moore from Michigan. He's elevated the Wolverine OL since he's taken over. While your at it, get Steve Clinkscale, who's had competent DB units every year a Kentucky and Michigan. They need to donate the hundreds of thousands of dollars going to Ted Roof to charity.
  8. If Spencer Rattler is playing QB for SCar, A&M should be favored. The Gamecocks have a porous OL, and Rattler makes poor decisions under pressure (as UT fans surely remember). Leans Aggies, unfortunately.
  9. The difference is performance vs expectations. Texas wasn't coming off 8 straight top 10 finishes and wasn't getting beaten by 30 and 50 points. Plus the arrogant bullshit Venables has been spewing since his hire is being revealed as empty. One of the most interesting aspects of this is the schadenfreude that former play color commenters show. Robert Griffin (vs TCU) and that former Bama QB from Dallas (vs UT) were giddy as they were describing OU's incompetence.
  10. A bunch of people are already out on Venables. OU's got a streak of sellout crowds since 2000. That'll probably be broken this weekend vs Kansas. OU's beaten the Jayhawks 17 straight times by an average of 30 points. No margin has been less than 10 points. If Gabriel doesn't play, OU could get routed again.
  11. Texas was the best team on the field last week, and OU was the worst.
  12. We agree. Either be really good at teaching it or run something basic (like TCU is) and master it. They're progressively worse over the last 3 weeks. Appears that the spirit of the team has been broken, possibly by the coaches themselves running the players down.
  13. I'm quoting other coaches who say his defenses are complicated. Sorry if I trust their opinions over yours. Getting defensive calls in late is something Saban and Venables have both been known for. I agree with you're point about Roof and Valai. I was dumbfounded by both hires.
  14. Yawn. This has been covered, and you're completely wrong. Advanced stats (SP+, FEI) had Venables defenses at OU in roughly the top 15 every year and mostly better. Calling a 10 year run of top flight defenses a mirage is rich. Since your particular complaint is that he didn't see good teams in the ACC, let's see how his defenses at Clemson did ONLY versus elite teams, in college football playoff games. Year Semi-final Championship 2016 vs Oklahoma 17 vs Bama 45 2017 vs Ohio St zero vs Bama 31 2018 vs Bama 24 2019 vs ND 3 vs Bama 16 2020 vs Ohio St 23 vs LSU 42 2021 vs Ohio St 49 Semi-final average 19 Championship 33 Overall average 25 You may be right, Venables may be a terrible head coach at OU. But it's not because he was a bad coordinator at OU or Clemson.
  15. TCU's relative competence this year with a new defensive coaching staff and lesser recruiting talent supports your point
  16. I agree with several of your points, but there are nuances here. 1. Offense getting worse doesn't hurt the defense: True, but Lebby's brand of hurry-up to get 3-and-outs does hurt defenses. Plus, OU's explosive offense's under Riley also put pressure on opposing offenses to score. Riley purposely slowed his offense down to protect his defense. 2. "needs more time to install his defense": Also agree! But Venable's defense is very complex. He, like Saban, has many calls and wants to get to the perfect call. That said, why hasn't he simplified his defense and calls to come to his players level? Also, let's remember, this is going downhill. The OU defense performance vs K-St was at least partially Adrian Martinez playing the game of his life. Venables response do this was to rip into his defense and create more physical practices. BAD IDEA that shows he lacks a basic understanding of psychology. The last 2 weeks have been the give up periods vs offenses that are increasing in proficiency. 3. "Gabriel isn’t an elite QB...I’ll cut them a little slack there.": Also agree that Gabriel's performance on 3rd down specifically vs K-St was the difference between OU winning and losing (there were several other ways for OU to win that game, but this is one). But I don't cut OU's offensive staff any slack for having NO BACK UP AT ALL READY to play. If there were such a huge drop off from Gabriel the other guys, the other guys should've played more during the 3 non-con blowouts. They should've had packages tailored for them specifically.
  17. The longterm viability of the OU program isn't dependent on one coach's success. The 1990s proved this (Gibbs-meh, followed by 4 yrs of awful). OU's still going to have tradition and border Texas. The primary risk to OU's program is the unwillingness of the fanbase to get behind a big boy NIL program. The reasons for this are many and are rooted in the relative poverty of the fans and their entitlement due to two decades of continued success. OU fans may need to taste several years of losing to appreciate the value of the work of recruits and team members.
  18. Caleb Williams S Rattler Mario Wms Cody Jackson Hazelwood Stacy Wilkins
  19. Heupel is an example of what OU fans should be hoping for. Heupel was objectively a poor OC for the Sooners in the early 2010s (despite beatdowns of UT in the RRR). He was a safe, nepotistic hire. I was among many who wanted him gone (Riley replaced him). Heupel integrated components of the Briles system into a coherent offense at Missouri. He parlayed success there into the UCF and Tennessee jobs. Heupel grew as a coach. OU has to hope Venables grows as a coach too. Brent seems humble. There are obvious things he can do in one offseason to make big changes. Let's see if he's able to do them. BTW, Heupel's probably NOT coming back to OU. There were apparently very hard feelings from his side when he left. I haven't heard anything about them being repaired.
  20. Picked a poor example. Bradford had a 3.95 GPA as a finance major.
  21. Look at his shot. It's not the rims.
  22. Why's he jumping? Why's he jumping forward? Why's he turning his body? Ugh
  23. Was working so didn't get to watch the game but followed the ass kicking on my phone. Congratulations. @Spider2YBanana : I think you're going to be able to collect soon.
  24. Who are the idiots still giving OU votes in the AP poll? They got 16 points after making Taylor Adrian Martinez and Max Doogan (returns) look like Lamar Jackson.
  25. OU was down 34-10 when Gabriel went out. If Bowman was that important, why was he returning kickoffs?
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