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  1. I disagree. I know several Trump voters of different races and income levels. Some of them are really, really smart. These are generally good people who I trust. One is a close friend. The media ecosystem in America is broken and feeds this lie that we're so different. I imagine you know several people from your time in the military that are Trump supports. Did they unlearn the lessons that brought them to serve?
  2. I care about NV. We need Jacky Rosen to win the Senate seat in NV. As has been stated by @Js1 and several others. Ticket-splitting is becoming less common. Would rather not have to rely on Trump-Rosen ticket-splitters to get Jacky back to Washington. A good Harris performance in NV makes me feel better about Rosen's chances. (I think Rosen and Harris win with Rosen having a bigger margin).
  3. I'm not doubting your experience. I don't know anyone who went to the J6 riot. And I agree that wealthy White folk without college degrees break for Trump bigly. What I do know is that I grew up in rural OK, and went to a small school (65 in my senior class) where most kids didn't go to college (3 of 65). Pre-Trump, no political discussion was had. Post-Trump, there are flags flying all over. So those are our experiences. Data says Trump wins 60% of working class White folk in 2016 and 2020. I anticipate he'll get a similar percentage this year. That why I said "it's both."
  4. There may be something weird going on in ATL / Athens specifically regarding GOTV. Anecdotally, fewer Black people doing canvassing than in past years. Maybe simply because Warnock isn't on the ballot like 2022, but I've heard it.
  5. Tobias = rich kid. Are you saying that Trump doesn't have strong support from poor White people?
  6. psst... you and I agree. We're among many critical of polling.
  7. I really wish they'd been more upfront about the fact that they're current methods don't allow them to know shit about fuck. It could have lead to improvement of the system and less horserace with blinders on both the horses and the jockeys. But, American media...
  8. It's both. I know PLENTY OF Cleetus's and Meemaw's that see Turmp as their champion. And there are far more of Cleetus's than there are Tobias's.
  9. Thanks Nate. Hasn't this has been a prevailing wisdom here for weeks?
  10. We are a stupid people but we like salacious content. Epstein fits the "news" "sex" Venn diagram well.
  11. I'm friends with a woman who is a doctor, who herself has had an abortion. She grew up a New England Republican. She voted for Trump in 2016 because was on the red team her entire life and didn't believe he was going to do all the things he plainly stated he wanted to do. After the 2016 election we stopped talking politics completely. After Jan 6, I checked in to see if she'd shifted her position. Nope. Hard for me to dissociate from her and her husband completely because we share several friends. We both strictly avoid political / news discussion.
  12. This is basically right. They were talking about 9% of 2020 Trump voters.
  13. I'm just quoting what they said. I'm sorry if it's obvious to you that 9% is the threshold of comfortable win. I wasn't to me. Also, I have no idea why you find it hard to believe. They have internal polling showing this. One thing that's absolutely certain is that we don't know shit about fuck. Public polling is a disaster, and early voting is reading shadows. I'm prepared to believe anything.
  14. Many of us were saying this in 2020. I recently heard it described as "good guys" syndrome or somesuch. The phenomenon that the "good guy" has to follow the rules but the bad guy is licensed as no restrictions. Doesn't seem like anyone has a choice as long as we have the current media environment.
  15. I see the same. Some of them have purposely swaddled themselves in the Fox Political Universe and refuse to hear anything else.
  16. Agree, won't gain him new voters. But it is bulletin board material that the GOP and media lackeys are continuing to use to mobilize people who lean GOP to get to the polls.
  17. Goal for Harris is > 6% flip of 2020 Trump voters. There was apparently internal Dem data that showed 9% flip if I recall (heard on podcast). If Harris hits 9% across the swing states, she wins easily per my recollection of the conversation.
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