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Texas Recruiting Notes 2023: Strippers, Monkeys, and 5-Stars
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Pray tell, what have you added to the conversation? Remembering, of course, that our exchange began over you denying that the Eyes of Texas was not an issue until you heard about it, regardless of past students' opinions which were documented over a decade ago, in addition to the opinion of former and current players. I know you have moved your goal posts so many times that your original point is indecipherable, but do not blame me for your blundering and lack of coherent viewpoint.
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Are you really this obtuse? It was exactly in the context you presented. Comparing an individual commenting on white privilege to forced collectivization and mass famine is hyperbolic and hysterical. It also causes you to appear to be detached from reality. Your historical comparisons are pedantic and counterfactual.
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The term Kulak does not designate an ethnicity. It is a Russian word for wealthy peasant, one wealthy enough to hire outside labor. This exchange was often viewed as exploitative by poorer peasants, hence their extreme reaction when the Soviets came to power and emboldened this peasant underclass. Before you exhort people to find out "more about that sort of thing," perhaps you should know what you are talking about first. Trying to frame that period of history as an ethnic issue reveals a profound ignorance on the topic. Also, comparing forced collectivization and resulting famine to losing your precious little song causes you to appear hysterical and detached from reality. That's a textbook example of the slippery slope logical fallacy. Nobody's "targeting" any specific ethnic group, trying to laying collective guilt on any any group, or accusing any group of a crime. A portion of the UT student body wants to discuss, among other things, changing a song that some view as having racial undertones. I'm not seeing a call for retribution against anyone in their requests.
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That's a quote from a different person than the one I originally cited. Why would I include that? The point is you said you never heard of it being an issue for UT students until a few days ago. However, as the article pointed out, it has been raised before. Some students were okay with the song, some were made uncomfortable by it, the part I "cut off" doesn't change either side of that equation. You've really got your panties in a bundle over this. Again, no one is stopping you from from bellowing minstrel songs at student athletes during football games.
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No, that's the entire point. There's plenty of evidence that some students have felt uncomfortable for a prolonged period of time with regards to the Eyes. However, now we have people like Apex saying its "just now becoming an issue for athletes" because people like Apex are only now finding out about it. It causes him to appear like an entitled whiner. He never heard of it, so it must be invalid.
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Where did I say he's a bad guy? I said there is considerable evidence that this was an issue long before there was even such a thing as BLM and provided an example, a fact which he has continually denied, simply because HE had not heard of the phenomenon. The sense of entitlement is staggering. Perhaps you should just go holler minstrel songs at the players during the next home game. I'm sure that will go over real well, because turdition. I'm sure they will understand.
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I'm not "reaching," it's right there in the article. Try fucking reading it : T.J. Finley, who graduated from UT with a bachelor's degree in kinesiology in the spring, stopped singing UT's iconic alma mater completely after being told that the song was first performed by students wearing blackface makeup in a turn-of-the-century minstrel show. "At first, I was just so shocked that something like this could still exist," said Finley, a graduate student at the Duke University School of Law. They interviewed multiple people, some who were uncomfortable, some who weren't. The issue is that you claim that this is only now an issue, when clearly it predates the current situation and invalidates your claim on this point.
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