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Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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No. The first 4 out are in a wrong and stupid order. The actual 12 looks like what it will probably be of the bracket was made today. -
BYU will drop behind Miami and Texas if they lose next week. If bama we’re to decimated by Georgia then it’s 3 teams for 1 spot between 10-3 bama, 10-2 Miami and 9-3 Texas. Texas has 2 wins over playoff teams (OU and aggy) bama has 1 (Georgia), Miami has 1 (Domers). bama has a shitty loss to Florida State. Texas has a shitty loss to Florida. Miami has 2 quasi shitty but not bad losses to unranked Louisville and unranked SMU. if it came out that way and championship weekend ended with big wins by Tech, Ohio State and Georgia that would be the starting point for rankings that could get Texas into the playoffs if the committee wanted to with not much backlash. I’d prefer over Miami in the next rankings but if was this that would be ok. it would be trying to draw an inside straight (maybe an inside straight flush) but it would be possible. Behind Utah and/or Vandy and no chance.
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Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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Sure didn’t say it would change it. But if the threshold is must be better than Georgia and OSU than nobody qualifies and let’s just do a best of 3 home, away, neutral with those 2 teams and call it a day. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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East: Georgia, bama, Florida, TN, Auburn, Kentucky, Vandy, SCar thats probably pretty fair. 3 traditional door mats in the east. 3 in the west. Georgia, Bama, Florida probably a little stronger than Texas OU and LSU but it could absolutely flip all the time. Aggy and Ole Miss in the middle probably a little stronger than TN + Auburn. do it! -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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I mean- in the last 2 years Texas is 0-5 against Georgia and Ohio state and 24-1 against everyone else. In that 24 wins over the last 2 years you have probably more scalps than all other teams not named Ohio state and Georgia (to be fair maybe Oregon). To say we can’t make the semis is dumb. Do we get seeded where we won’t have to play Ohio state or Georgia before the semi’s? Then we can make them. we are pretty clearly the 3rd best team over the last 2 or 3 years collectively, and not as good as Georgia or Ohio state. 1 loss to Florida doesn’t change that. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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Bullshit. Bama claims 187 titles. They didn’t give back a title when they lost to LsU and got a rematch with only 2 teams chosen! Not any of the other 1 loss Saban bullshit title’s when picking 2 teams and that wasn’t the deal. They happily take every break and laugh about it and don’t consider a team to need to be a generational team to deserve a title. Ohio state fans were happy to claim a title after losing to Oregon and Michigan and beating nobody other than PSU of quality last year. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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Here’s the thing that’s so infuriating… college hoops is so much better from a scheduling perspective (yeah it sucks but that’s bc the nba has the best 100 human beings 18-21 playing in it in a way the nfl cannot and will not) because the tournament committee says “who did you beat and where did you beat them” and not “how many losses do you have. Because of that we see really great tournaments, neutral site games conference challenges and home and homes between national powers. It works. when the committee in football says not who did you beat snd where did you play and instead “how many losses do you have” we will see a wasteland of shit. a modest proposal: all playoff teams must have either a great win (top 10) or two good wins (top 20) to qualify. that would incentivize everyone to schedule really good games. It would fix almost everything. This year’s eligible teams: Ohio state (Texas and Michigan) Indiana (Oregon- top 10) aggy (domers) Georgia (Texas, ole Miss) tech (not in unless they beat byu) ole Miss (OU, Tulane) Oklahoma (Bama, michigan) Domers (nope- only mediocre USC win barely in top 20) bama (Georgia) byu (nope- not unless they beat tech) Utah (nope) Vandy (nope) Texas (aggy, OU, Vandy) Miami (Domers - nobody else) if you don’t get to 12 doing that fill in with whoever else wins the eye test I guess. Aggy and Miami have tentative grasp on qualifying wins depending upon what one did with Domers that one simple trick would make September fucking awesome, and it would make conference schedules better too bc conferences wouldn’t WS t their best teams to duck each other to protect the loss column college football could be twice as good without changing anything other than committee selection criteria TV and fans would win big time -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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It’s really an amazing combination of self loathing, obtuseness, arrogance (2005 Texas is our standard and should happen every year even though that’s a once in a generation type team) and general dipshittery. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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What’s even worse is the self loathing. If we don’t do that we deserve to be shit all over and sit in the corner like a dumbass. Meanwhile Saban got to lose once every year with no problem when the conferences were much more balanced and that wasn’t the deal for everyone else. Texas has to be generational in talent or many in our fanbase are like fuck it- we suck. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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You mean from 64 right? Because I don’t know anyone who wants it at 32. 64 was perfect 68 is dumb. I think going from 12 to 16 or 24 will be very well received by most- especially if first 2 or 3 rounds are at home fields. -
If you want to keep it inclusive and reward teams that all have no chance of winning it all for having good seasons at their level I love that idea. Byes for top 8. 9-24 second week of December (no conference championship games first week of December- byes for all) 1-16 3rd week of December all at higher seed. 1-8 4th week of December- all at higher seeds. 1-4 New Year’s Day ish at neutral site locations. Championship game at neutral site something like January 12th. Fans win not having to pay shitloads to travel to a bunch of games. Everyone gets included that can win a title. Everyone gets rewarded for doing well against their level of competition. Make brackets flexible so 1 always plays the worst remaining team, 2 second worst remaining team and so on and you will have a reward and teams will care instead of punting regular season games. Or- the committee could not be dumb and we wouldn’t have to do reduced fixes. But the 1-24 seems like fun and would solve all problems associated. If you did it hone field it even solves the fan hassle problem. players are getting paid now- don’t care about too many games for a couple of the last teams.
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For us as in what happened? Sure. The committee has a say in how they decide to rank and explain what matters and what the rules of the road are going forward/ and that’s not finished yet. Imagine a world where Georgia and Ohio State romp next weekend and byu eked out a win v tech. A completely plausible ranking would be: 1) OSU, 2) Georgia, 3) Aggy 4) Oregon… 7) Oklahoma. If you split with 4 of the top 7 and have a win against another top 12 team and a loss against something like the 40th best team (that’s their computer metrics) with all the losses on the road and you can’t get in then why would anyone ever do anything remotely interesting in non con. And sure- you can’t design a system that’s better with like 40 or 48 teams but that’s not particularly likely to happen in the real world- while the committee can decide not to do stupid shit like put Utah with no good wins ahead and Texas and that can go a long way to stabilizing the sport and takes no effort.
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They all have data points dude. Those data points are the standings. They don’t end the season after 4 games or have 100 teams because then it wouldn’t work. Your data points (games) have to match the number of teams in the league in a sensible manner or it’s GIGO or a beauty contest.
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It’s like you are trying to not understand. One we control and the other we don’t.
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64 with 12 data points is too unwieldy. You probably have to get to 36 or 40 tops to be good with 8 or 12 teams. I’d be absolutely fine with SEC plus Domers, OSU, Michigan, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA, Nebraska, Iowa, MN, Texh, BYU, Utah, AZ, ASU, TCU, SMU, FSU, Clemson, Pitt, Miami, UNC, VA, VA Tech, Boise, Louisville add 4 for 48 or subtract 4 for 40 and that’s probably about as big as you can get and still keep it manageable with 12 or 13 data points.
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That’s functionally not true. If we played Purdue instead of Ohio state we would 100% be in. Like- no doubt about it. Ahead of OU and Vandy and Utah and Miami and maybe Domers. Getting ready for a home playoff game. Sure- same is true for Florida but fuck man- Sark said it and everybody in the world nodded along and said true except the densest of our fans. Florida was made to be on our schedule and OSU was a choice. but yeah- Ole Miss probably not good. When they get smoked in the playoffs the narrative will be it was about Kiffin moving on as opposed to them sort of not being great.
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How do you do that with 132 teams and only 12 or 13 outcomes. if the idea of college football playoffs is to collect all the teams that could plausibly win a title Texas 3-2 record with more quality wins than any team in college football needs to be in. There’s no conceivable argument against it. if it’s to reward good seasons with people that played well at their level then cool- let’s just say that too. I’m fine with either way. Just be clear that the deal is to try to get to 11-1 or 10-2 and nothing else matters and anyone who doesn’t plan accordingly is a moron who should be mocked and ridiculed. Either way is fine. if you are saying relegate the chuckle fucks of college football so that you can get to 32 programs or something that can play enough games to determine likely who the best is like the NFL that’s fine too.
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I’m not saying it will. Go ahead and put us at 15. Whatever. It will do incredible long term harm to the sport. September can be as meaningless in CFB as exhibition season in the NFL. If 9-3 Texas is behind 10-2 Utah who has zero quality wins then there is beyond zero reason to ever play an OOC team harder than Rutgers or Stanford or Purdue. That the world anyone wants to live in?
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Texas needs to be 12 after this week. Ahead of Utah and Miami and Vandy. That’s a fair ranking and values strength of schedule and quality of wins and takes into account 3 losses. If Georgia batters bama and tech beats byu the committee could justifiably move us up to 10 and everyone would/should be fine with that. If that doesn’t happen then at least they can say OOC losses to really quality teams aren’t disproportionately harmful. if we are behind Utah fuck that shit- they’ve beaten nobody and what are we even doing.
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Also poor aggies. Poor aggies walking down the ramp after a loss drives them homicidally angry which makes it worthwhile.
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Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
Wulaw Horn replied to Wulaw Horn's topic in Football
Hey fuck face- if we schedule rice instead of Ohio State is Texas in at 10-2? Fuck you are dumb. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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So, beating 2 10-2 teams and an 11-2 doesn’t count as part of the schedule. Thats an insane standard that only a Texas fan would be myopic enough to hold their team to. Vandy, OU and aggy combined to lose 5 games- 3 of which were against Texas and you just said we had a 2 game schedule. That is insane. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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Sure. There will be one team pre CFP that finished unblemished. Everyone else “didn’t handle their business”. We are the only team to play 5 top 15 teams. How many teams ahead of us in the playoffs would have 3 or more losses against our schedule?. Tech lost to ASU for example. They basically beat nobody. Gun to your head what’s the line if we were playing them at the cotton bowl? Texas by 2.5 or 3.5. You think they are going better than 9-3 against our schedule? Or we’d go worse than 12-1 against theirs? Domers have 0 impressive wins. I think they are a top 10 school but you just can’t say they had a more accomplished season with us. Georgia and Ohio state are the class of college football I think. Indiana has a chance to prove they are but I think when they run into superior athletes Ohio state chokes them out. Beyond that I think Texas has the 3rd highest ceiling in college football all and something like the 20th highest floor. Theres a lot of dichotomy there. top 10 teams from watching an assload of football are probably OSU, Georgia, Indiana, Texas, Domers, ole Miss, tech, Oregon, Miami and maybe Bama. That’s my 10 in no particular order. No OU and no aggy. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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So, not beating one of the top 2 teams in the country means you shouldn’t be in a 12 team playofff. Cool cool cool. I think there’s maybe 4 teams in the country that might split that duo. Especially considering both were on the road. -
Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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It’s so fucking stupid that anyone can say hurt durr Florida and try to hand wave away the reason we aren’t in the playoffs is bc we scheduled Ohio State instead of rice.
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