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Preseason I expected us to be about where we are now. The losses outside of Maryland, wouldn't have been a surprise based on preseason expectations. I figured the 3 losses would likely have include USC for us to be in contention for the CCG. Now after the Maryland and Tulsa game, I just hoped we wouldn't do any worse than last year. Let's beat KU and let the rest sort itself out. But I'll now expect us to make the CCG next season.

First, the G5 has no 'right' to be in FBS. They made the decision to be in this division. If they want to compete for titles, then they need to drop down to FCS. They are part of the decision-making process and if they don't like being in the minority they are well within their rights to drop down to FCS. So then, why is FBS continuing to grow, even though the teams moving up have no chance at a national title? Money. The G5 make more money than their FCS counterparts. They also get a cut of the playoffs that they have no legit claim on being a part of. Yes, the G5 get a cut of the playoff money. I think it is well over $75M each season. Each P5 conference gets over $50M. This is guaranteed money for each group, whether they get a team in to the playoffs or not. The G5 get more than 1/6 of the playoff revenue, even though I am sure their actual media values are much less than that. I would imagine the main reason the P5 just doesn't split off is because the G5 schools would sue to keep access to the money that they play so little a part of actually earning. It is also why the G5 schools will probably never sue to get playoff access.

So who's getting fired?!?

It is going to take more teams aggying up above $7M per year to get guys to actively move between P5s. There are a lot of schools that would be embarrassed to pay that amount now, but someone else without those scruples is going to follow in aggy's footsteps and then we will see the blue bloods creep their salaries up to that level. If the rest of the P5 don't follow suit then we will again see guys 'chasing the dragon'.

Of course it does...

Nope, just different sides of the glory hole.

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There are only like 2 or 3 posters here that actually think UCF deserves to be in the playoffs. A few want UCF involved just to make the stupid committee squirm. The UCF proponents think being undefeated must be rewarded, no matter the quality of the teams played. It is not unprecedented and is the reason BYU can claim a title. The desire to reward "perfection" is using a different paradigm than picking a second SEC team for a 4 team playoff. A team that didn't even win their division, especially when that team also played 3 cupcakes OOC, just because they pass the eyeball test. I don't think either scenario passes muster. If there are only 4 playoff teams, you don't get invited unless you play at least 9 P5 games and if you didn't play 13 games you also shouldn't get invited as every P5 conference has a CCG and making that should be the threshold for an invitation. Most here don't think UCF plays a schedule that warrants inclusion in the 4-team playoff, but most seem to think they belong at 8 teams. I think the P5 needs to split off as I don't think UCF should take a playoff spot from a team that has a few blemishes from actually playing a challenging slate of games. 8 teams would allow some degree of beauty contest to include teams that didn't win their conference without making a mockery of having CCGs in the first place. I also think OOC SOS should be a major factor in determining who gets into the playoff and their seed.

They don't even have a P5 schedule. They played five P5 teams this year and will get to 6 over the next few seasons. Notre Dame generally has 9 and without a CCG even they need to be undefeated to be assured a playoff spot. BYU would have a better case for making an 8 team playoff than UCF, but they would also need to be undefeated to nab an at-large that would still have been better earned by a P5 with a couple of losses.

Hope someone retweeted him to ask him how it feels to be on the other side of negative recruiting for once.

Well, Jimbo's ex was involved in some pretty freaky shit...Jimbo is the perfect aggy, a simple, little man who thinks he is great but can't even satisfy his woman.

Win next week, then win the conference. Fuck the rest.

I thought he might have set himself up as the next D'Antonio. A guy who isn't going to win big every year, but would put up 10-win seasons consistently and might even fight for a conference title when the right cards fell. But he never did recruit worth a shit.

The farce is that we act like G5 football is somehow similar to P5 football. I am not sure what rationale the P5 has for not going ahead and separating off into its own division. I would think the additional media money would offset the loss of one home game...oh wait, I forgot, the SEC and most of the ACC would lose 2-3 home games each year because they invest a quarter of their schedule in playing G5s and FCS teams.

It would just be one more on the pro-Texas side...#advantageaggy

I am definitely not in the UCF=Bama crowd, but I do think year-over-year Bama and the SEC gains a decided advantage by mostly playing 3 patsies OOC. They have less wear and tear and of course get the extra wins. Advanced metrics will then also be skewed. I am not sure how the SEC racks ups such high marks with the computers when they play so many weak teams, but I take it the advanced metrics are all about smoothing out quality of opponent. I have no interest in betting you as the point isn't that ND will beat Bama or Clemson. (Of course, with the shitty scheduling rules they are likely to almost never play each other.) It is about the fact that Bama gets to be #1 while they play a decided weak schedule. Sure the metrics say they play a lot of good teams, but then Bama and all the teams they play in conference have also honed their metrics and increased their win totals playing the same sort of powder puff schedules. You bitch and moan about the sanctity of the regular season and then shit all over the concept with your beauty contest bullshit that allows Bama to play a regular season less of P5 teams as a team like Texas has over the past 5 years.

They are fake military. They desperately hope our real military continues to succeed (just like Bama) because imagine what could happen to them if these fake warriors had to actually go into real battle!

Lulz. Talk about the regular season being meaningless! Clemson and Bama should be ahead of ND based not on who they played but how YOU think they played?!? ND should have just dropped all their difficult games, blown out everyone by 30...oh wait, you then tell us their schedule wasn't good enough... How about this. Only conference champs make the playoffs. Seeding among teams with the same record are based on their OOC scheduling. If you play a Bama schedule you will always be behind a Texas schedule, no matter how many games either team won or lost OOC. If you scheduled the same number of P5 games, then your W/L and SOS and margin of victory in those games can be used. If you play dregs in OOC, you risk not getting a home game in the playoffs.

I would rather we just dissolve the Big 12 as well and then drop Baylor. Maybe see if WVU can find a spot in another conference and stay at 14.

Last year was happenstance. If Wisconsin would have beaten OSU in the CCG, they would have passed OU because they were undefeated, not because of who they actually played. OU beating OSU only meant that OSU couldn't afford to lose another game, which they did. In 2016, if OU hadn't played either Houston or OSU and replaced them with an FCS and weak G5, they would have been undefeated and in the playoffs...this is basically the Bama method. Bama and Clemson really have suffered mentally by having an FCS team on the schedule every year, haven't they? I have seen nothing to suggest there is a correlation between a strong OOC and a team being more likely to win their conference or a national title. In 2014, OSU was getting in the playoff so long as they beat Wisconsin. They could have played Baylor's OOC and they were in. If Baylor and TCU had a rematch for the Big 12 championship, it would have been interesting to see how the committee would have approached it. I think OSU winning huge over a flawed Wisconsin would have trumped even TCU winning the rematch because "OSU". I am sure the committee would have used SOS to leave out Baylor, but fuck Baylor. If Bama had played that schedule, they would have gotten in.

My point isn't about any particular season, it is the aggregate. Texas's schedule is more likely over the long term to keep us out of the playoffs that it is to get us in. It may not because we lost to a middling P5 OOC early in the season, more likely it because we lost to a middling conference opponent due to the physical and mental toll of facing more legit teams over the course of a season than a team that plays an FCS and 2 G5s most years. The undefeated team is held in too much regard IMO, especially when the schedules can be so different. Sure there is a chance that we get in over someone else due to SOS, but I would imagine in most seasons we are more likely to get in base on having 'Texas' on the jersey than whom we played. Who did you beat out last year to get into the playoffs? I think Wisconsin was the only other 1 loss team that didn't make the playoffs and they were behind OU from the start and didn't pass you guys even after you loss. If you started the season where you did and had Wisconsin's schedule and finished with 1-loss, I bet you still get in because you have 'Oklahoma' on your jersey. In 2016, OSU was one of only 4 undefeated or 1-loss P5 teams, schedule didn't get them in. OSU in 2014 is about the only one where I remember SOS being mention, as Baylor's OOC was so bad, but even then the '13th game' was what the final criteria offered by the committee for bumping TCU for OSU.

You are taking my example too literally. (But if you want to play that, almost losing to Oklahoma State due to a missed extra point also isn't the look for a 'legit' playoff contender.) Sorry, but even playing Kansas puts more mileage on your players than an FCS or a bottom tier G5. Or replace Maryland with Iowa or any other middling team that turns out to be Top 20 quality and put it as the first game of the season for a younger team and it can easily turn into a loss. By the end of the season, that young team may have gelled and be playing the best ball of anyone, but an undefeated team who didn't play anyone OOC won't get passed even if they played a bunch of close games. You don't have to worry about an FCS team turning into a Top 20 FBS level team when you schedule them 5 years in advance. If Texas were undefeated this season, the committee would likely still have us behind Bama and Clemson, both of whom would have played an FCS team and at least one less P5. Bama schedule isn't shit because of how bad Louisville is. It is shit because they scheduled Arkansas State, Louisiana-Lafayette, and Citadel. You are playing the same bullshit game that the committee plays. Bama may be the best team, but there are also absolutely no repercussions for them consciously playing a shitty schedule. Sure, Kentucky would never get that benefit of the doubt nor would any other non-blue blood, but that still doesn't make it fair.

16 is better than 4, but it does open up a lot of issues without specifics about who gets in and how, or a change in scheduling rules. Even now, I don't see any benefit for a strong SOS for OOC games. Bama gets a cakewalk of a non-con and no one bats an eye. Texas sets itself up for a trap game like Maryland rather than an FCS opponent and puts another game of real mileage on its players, while Bama gets to have 3 soft opponents with no repercussions from the committee. The system already sucks. If you take all conference champs then Bama gets rewarded with another cupcake, while Texas risks a lower seed, due to playing a more difficult schedule, and could end up facing a Top 10 team in the first round rather than a G5 patsy. If you could go to 16 and it is based on rankings, then OK, the results are a little less cut and dried, but you still have no scheduling integrity. If you got to 16 and only give the P5 autobids, you likely end up with a lawsuit from the G5, so it is probably committee-ranked or bust. 16 would be more tenable if playing FCS teams were outlawed and a codified SOS component was added to the ranking criteria. Going back to a BCS-style formula isn't perfect, but the committee selection concept has proven corrupt.

Channeling my inner Scorpio: What our OL needs are more man mountains like Garrett Greenlea, Garrett Thomas and Tristan Nickelson. Also Mike Grandy was going to be All-American.

Did he own the Opening Finals? The clips I saw he didn't look exceptional, but then perhaps they weren't from the 'Finals'.