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Wow; I think the Matrix hiccuped after too many utterances of the word Zion.

I think that what Palestine is doing is the right and good thing to do, if you believe the Israeli’s should not control all of Jerusalem. Making the noise and driving the awareness to get Israel to stop and to cancel all those who vocalize, maintain, give or aid in any way any support is the only way to stop it. Classic “slave morality” as Nietzsche coined it (his term, not mine)— the only way the weak can overcome the strong. My opinion is that Israel has made their bed and now has to lie in it for falling for a sueing for peace instead of winning in war what they wanted many years ago. I’m not sure how they get to a Zion now, I’m not bullish on the possibility anymore.

I think that what Palestine is doing is the right and good thing to do, if you believe the Israeli’s should not control all of Jerusalem. Making the noise and driving the awareness to get Israel to stop and to cancel all those who vocalize, maintain, give or aid in any way any support is the only way to stop it. Classic “slave morality” as Nietzsche coined it (his term, not mine)— the only way the weak can overcome the strong. My opinion is that Israel has made their bed and now has to lie in it for falling for a sueing for peace instead of winning in war what they wanted many years ago. I’m not sure how they get to a Zion now, I’m not bullish on the possibility anymore.

I think that what Palestine is doing is the right and good thing to do, if you believe the Israeli’s should not control all of Jerusalem. Making the noise and driving the awareness to get Israel to stop and to cancel all those who vocalize, maintain, give or aid in any way any support is the only way to stop it. Classic “slave morality” as Nietzsche coined it (his term, not mine)— the only way the weak can overcome the strong. My opinion is that Israel has made their bed and now has to lie in it for falling for a sueing for peace instead of winning in war what they wanted many years ago. I’m not sure how they get to a Zion now, I’m not bullish on the possibility anymore.

I think that what Palestine is doing is the right and good thing to do, if you believe the Israeli’s should not control all of Jerusalem. Making the noise and driving the awareness to get Israel to stop and to cancel all those who vocalize, maintain, give or aid in any way any support is the only way to stop it. Classic “slave morality” as Nietzsche coined it (his term, not mine)— the only way the weak can overcome the strong. My opinion is that Israel has made their bed and now has to lie in it for falling for a sueing for peace instead of winning in war what they wanted many years ago. I’m not sure how they get to a Zion now, I’m not bullish on the possibility anymore.

I think that what Palestine is doing is the right and good thing to do, if you believe the Israeli’s should not control all of Jerusalem. Making the noise and driving the awareness to get Israel to stop and to cancel all those who vocalize, maintain, give or aid in any way any support is the only way to stop it. Classic “slave morality” as Nietzsche coined it (his term, not mine)— the only way the weak can overcome the strong. My opinion is that Israel has made their bed and now has to lie in it for falling for a sueing for peace instead of winning in war what they wanted many years ago. I’m not sure how they get to a Zion now, I’m not bullish on the possibility anymore.

After bad_teammates post I read a bit about the UN, it's founding, the permanent members and the criticisms, and while what you just said seems to be popular consensus, it's also, both heavily alluded and in some circles explicitly stated, that there would have never been a UN without that veto power. It never would have gotten off the ground or gained confidence (a la League of Nations) without conceding that power to the majors. And, of course like everything else in 2021, there are "both sides" arguments that the UN is a great force but inefficient and underutilized and marginalized as a toothless tiger due to the bias/prejudice towards a few countries (despite trying to cap the % they can fund the AOP) and then the others are saying that the UN is worthless and inefficient and evaluations show it's ineffective and should be relegated to humanitarian work.

Thank you.

Interesting takes. I'll concede it might not be universally horrible like the usual Will Smith movie post 2010, and just say that I disagree and certainly didn't interpret this movie as anything but a junky hot mess stupid failure and waste of time, but can see how some people thought it was "Bad-good".

Serious question: what are the punishments or consequences or "teeth" for violating International Law? I'm hearing and understand now that Israel is/has been in violation of this international law. Who is the legislative body for the law? Who are the enforcers? Why has nothing been done? Is "International law" a secondary or inferior tier of law that is superseded by national laws? What binds all this together, I guess is the confusion, because it sounds like it's just a bureaucratic invention if nobody is taking it serious or wants to enforce it or it can be ignored and willed away when convenient.

What about this one?

Wait, if what you are saying is true, then Israel does own East Jerusalem, etc. and is not there with one illegitimate atom or whatever hpslugga was saying. Right? Or am I misunderstanding?

Several stories about the circumstances of her death at age 67 in 1796 originated in the years following her death. An urban legend claims that she died as a result of her attempting sexual intercourse with a stallion—the story holds that the harness holding the horse above her broke, and she was crushed.[9] The origin of this false account of her death is unknown. However, it most likely began due to unfounded bawdy tales. The fact that this particular urban legend did not even emerge until several decades after her death, and that the legend has no clear source, should make it clear that this is no more than an urban legend that managed to gain popularity. Another story claiming that she died on the toilet when her seat broke under her[citation needed] is true only in small part; she did collapse in a bathroom from a stroke, but after that she died while being cared for in her bed. This tale was widely circulated and even jokingly referred to by Aleksandr Pushkin in one of his untitled poems. ("Наказ писала, флоты жгла, / И умерла, садясь на судно."—literal translation: "Decreed the orders, burned the fleets / And died boarding a vessel," the last line can also be translated as "And died sitting down on the toilet.") There existed also a version on alleged assassination, by spring blades hidden in a toilet seat.[4] I know, I'm not a lot of fun at parties.

How did she die?

Sure it does.

This is the part I think we share we opinions: I also think we share the opinion and I haven't seen it posted yet, but I think it's funny Gal Gadot is being harassed on twitter for her response. Less funny but kinda funny is Andrew Yang getting it too.

Wow that was not a joke, that is crazy. Doesn't even look or resemble him in any way. He looks way better now. He looked like a slimmer Kevin from The Office back then, and I guess he got the LeBron James hair treatment?

Sorry for being dumb, but who is that? And what year is that?

Disagree. Making the symbiote/Venom into a “Feed me, Seymour” from Little Shop of Horrors is either unintentionally cringe and camp or just a misfire.

Looks stupid. *ducks*

What even is violence?

I think there is room for debate in there. Do we make a choice? What if I believe in predestination? What if I'm unconditionally elected per the Calvinistic tradition? Maybe you've made a choice that makes it seem like people's identities are a choice you make. Those who identify as gay; are they making a choice? Or is it predetermined in the sequencing of a code? Is it preternatural? I realize that a) we are creeping dangerously into the margins of philosophy on a geopolitical thread and b) you find conversation that invokes forces or ideas or beliefs that live deep within our soul and with quiet power in vague, hard to conceptualize and reconcile and understand ways, to be distasteful and evidence of weakness, laziness or disingenuousness, but I cannot be as literal and definitive as you need me to be. I can't and I won't.

Thanks for the post. I guess I need to pour over the records and legalese here, as it appears you have, since you don't want to cite sources and make it easy. I found the bolded part of all your post, and all this discussion, to be the most interesting. It seems almost as if Israel would have been better served not being formed out of bureaucracy, but out of old fashioned blood spoils of war cum diplomacy, like most countries sovereign borders and recognization for time immemorial.

I'm Pro-Israel and Zionist because of how I see myself in this world; my identity in this temporary space I fill in the great, fallen in-between, after where I was and before where I will be eternally, God willing. I'm but a lowly and moderately faithful sinner doing the best I can among the rest of my miserably broken peers. So you see, old friend, I brought more soldiers than you did I was being completely honest when I said I don't like that Hamas is fighting for this land in Israel, but I understand it. I even respect it. If I were Palestinian/Hamas or sufficiently muslim in that land, I would feel the same way as they do and probably be a mortal enemy to a Zionist. But that's not my identity.

My response is not "no no no this isn't fair". All is fair in love and war. Great. Fight back. Otherwise known as F around and find out-- Jewish edition. I am saying I'd rather Palestinians not needlessly die in vain against a greater force with greater allies and resources. Just follow logically the chain of what is going to happen in a war. Likely the same thing that always happens when Palestinians thinks they are big boys. Like I said, I don't like it and I can even understand it-- if I were a Palestinian with Palestinian beliefs and goals I'd probably feel the same way. But I'm not, I'm Pro-Israel and a Zionist. And as far as assimilation goes, it means to materially change to be more like the conquering state. Believe in the cultures, customs and God, etc. If you can't do that and want to be in conflict or opposition-- then you must either reload and fight another round (as seems to be happening) or leave. Go on a pilgrimage. Sojourn where you can. Doesn't matter. It's not Israel's problem. Maybe you've heard the term at 2am: "You ain't gotta go home but you gotta get out of here!"