HillaryFan420

The rioters did delay certification but there was never any possibility of an electoral vote going to the House. The plan to raise objections to the electoral slate also had no possibility of success and was PR to show they were trying to do something to support Trump. McConnell quickly got tired of it and put his foot down that day regarding certification. This is all just fan fiction. The MAGA chuds on the right believe they are part of some valiant fight to stop the steal while the libtards on the “left” believe a fascist coup was nearly perpetrated. None of its real and none of it matters.

I said in the thread that the actions of the Capitol police were to blame for what happened. However, to pretend that some mob of dipshits without any prior planning were going to topple a global hegemon is so absurd that it’s difficult to even muster a response. You are the liberal equivalent of Q followers.

These posts were made in response to my post below in the bottom link: https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/18467-the-us-capitol-has-been-breached-action-and-developing-stories/&do=findComment&comment=2951959 https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/18467-the-us-capitol-has-been-breached-action-and-developing-stories/&do=findComment&comment=2951993 https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/18467-the-us-capitol-has-been-breached-action-and-developing-stories/&do=findComment&comment=2951920 Within the CR, if you believe it's vile to make the morbid comments Chu made then you are a "Nazi supporter" who should be censored from the board. It's one thing to throw that term around glibly on the internet as has always been done, but I don't see why posters should be banned for innocuous posts (certainly far less histrionic than calling random people on the internet Nazi supporters) because they are deemed to be in support of the wrong tribe even when that's not even what's going on.

The reason that BC has not been crowd sourced is because, although he differs from many of the posters in the CR, he is at heart a democrat. For that reason he does not question or mock many of the CR shibboleths no matter how absurd they may be, such as the fatuous idea that Trump conspired with Putin during the 2016 election or that Trump is akin to Hitler or Mussolini in his authoritarianism. If you question those things are you deemed to be a Trumper and thus must be crowd sourced no matter what your actual politics are. Indeed, I was called a Nazi for arguing that we shouldn't celebrate the deaths of the idiot protestors who stormed the Capitol.

I know that you're proud of how you and the others acted in that thread. That doesn't surprise me at all. There is an authoritarian streak in liberals as much as there is in conservatives, the difference being the identity of the out group.

Please show me where I did that. I mainly argued that at no point was there ever a risk of our government being toppled or a civil war breaking out, even if a hostage situation were to arise. This episode was about as threatening to our "democracy" as the shooting of Steve Scalise, which is to say it wasn't.

I refrained from visiting it for the most part but I'm interested in politics so it can be hard to stay away completely. Even then, a handful of posts in a single thread that they interpret as not being supportive of their team can result in hundreds of negs. Some of the more insane posters will even pull up your entire posting history so they can neg posts that have nothing to do with the topic that triggered them in the first place. As an example, arguing that we shouldn't celebrate the deaths of the handful of wingnuts who died at the Capitol the other day will get you neg bombed. These people have some of the blandest politics imaginable but at the same time are viscously tribal and monomaniacal in rooting out and exterminating the perceived enemy.

They are for the most part centrists so they would be to the left of Von Mises but to the right of the New Dealers and maybe even Nixon. It's on "social issues" where their liberal streak shines.

People have always complained about the CR, but I believe until recently there has always been some small amount of productive discussion along with some variety in the viewpoints shared. However, now i'm afraid it truly has become the unrelenting, hysterical circle-jerk of which it so often has been accused. It is nigh impossible to post in the forum without sharing the pedestrian "socially liberal but economically conservative" viewpoint shared by the CR postariat. To do so, irrespective of your own beliefs or positions, is to brand yourself a "fascist" or even a "Nazi supporter" resulting in your eventual crowd-source banning. There is as much use reasoning with these people as there is reasoning with a stampede of feral hogs. What is to be done with this place? Why even allow negging in the CR when it's used wantonly to ban anyone with a different viewpoint, no matter what that viewpoint is?

This is vile.

There are plenty of shithead cops, but i dont think their personal failings are to blame for the harms they cause and essentializing them, like essentializing any group, is counterproductive even if they are a self-selected group.

I think it was more of an issue of numbers than armament.

lol this must be the shitlib version of the conservative's shibboleth of welfare queens and "strapping young bucks" living off of a diet of T-Bone steaks.

No, please explain how a war would arise because of a some congress critter being taken hostage. Some deluded idiot zip-tying Pelosi is going to make the Joint Chiefs consider backing Trump against our President Elect? What exactly are you envisioning?

Why would a war start over some wingnut grabbing a hold of a congressman because the police didn't bother doing their jobs? I'm missing something.

GWB started a war on false pretenses that killed nearly a million people. Reagan supported death squads which murdered nuns and did all manner of unspeakable things. None of these things defined their legacies and the media love both of them. Maybe Trump will be different given his boorishness but I wouldn't be so sure that he will be reviled by the general public 10 or 20 years from now.

To compare this with the Civil War is so incredibly insane. There was no possibility whatsoever that the conspiracy theorists and other idiots who "stormed the Capitol" were going to seriously impair the functioning of the federal government much less overthrow it. These people are simply idiots and the most surprising thing about the episode was how ill equipped the DC police were to control the crowds. Had they done their jobs nothing would have happened.

I've never voted for a Republican in my life. I just think the whole thing is silly and the only meaningful consequence of this entire event could be enhanced domestic surveillance via a beefed up Patriot Act. That outcome will be driven by the media hysteria surrounding what happened yesterday.

No one is going to remember this shit two months from now. It's entertaining spectacle and nothing more.

UH is a much easier place to win at than Washington, especially when Sark took over.

I’m sure there were some people who considered Tom an offensive mastermind when he was hired but his performance under Meyer didn’t mean much of anything. Herman’s resume was thinner than Strong’s when he was hired and he was more a product of media driven hype than real success.

I hated the idea at first but now I think I’m coming around to liking the hiring of Sark. Unlike Tom, Sark is a genuine offensive guru and he can recruit as well. He also doesn’t have a staff of buddies he will be bringing along and thus hopefully he can put together the best staff UT’s money can buy.

I think I’ve about given up on the idea of Urban coming. I would think that if it was a done deal they would have fired Herman weeks ago to give him a better chance of finding a HC gig to offset the buyout. Maybe they’ll ask again but I’m doubtful this is going down. The fact that Herman has hung around this long is even making me question whether he’ll even be fired at all for the same reasons. someone talk me off this ledge. I’m close to jumping.

This guy is going to curb stomp Biden/Harris in 2024.