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The older I get the more bitter I become. I’m a big Worthy, the football player, fan. No, he’s not perfect, but he’s a unique player. He was open more tonight too than the passes he caught. The lack of 50/50 balls and press coverage. Yeah, no shit he’ll struggle with that. But if you’re there OC, the press coverage is largely on you. And well the 50/50 will be offset with plenty of plays with separation. The lack of tracking the ball was always a bit of bs. But posters were dismissive of alternate theories.
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He can’t get off press coverage. He can’t track the ball.
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All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
I did look through it. I was curious/interested enough to look. That’s what I came up with. It was a long time ago so specific details get a little fuzzy. I am not making a claim as to which one is better. They both had some good moments and both had some less than good ones. Just laying the details. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
I don’t remember the specifics, but, yes, he had a knee issue that was impactful. Arkansas sounds right. Looking back both of them had a number of 3/4 turnover games. We know it, but Stoops had our number beyond 1999. They throttled us several times, but 12-0 in 2004 is pretty bad too. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
I’m not sure this is correct. 1999 was pretty much Majors job. Simms only threw 36 passes all year per sports-reference.com. Simms started at A&M, think he left with the lead, we lost. In 2000, Simms only threw double digit passes in 5 games. The opener in which Major threw almost twice as many passes. Simms started. Houston Major threw no TDs, Simms 1. Simms started. We won 48-0. Major started versus OU. We lost anyway. Then the final two regular season games which Major didn’t play. So maybe 2 but hard to say we lose when the other team scores nothing. In 2001, Major only threw more than 5 passes in the CU game not including the bowl game. So looks like maybe 2, both of which chances are we win anyway. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
I took a little liberty with the Colt being overrated comment in response you saying he was not god-like. I had looked up Huey, Hix, Smith. I found no evidence they ever played in the NFL beyond pre-season. David Snow did play 5 games however. No Olineman on the 2008 or 2009 teams were drafted. Not even the backups. In 2007, only Tony Hills was drafted off the Oline. Sendlein, Studdard, Blalock were gone. Sweed, Selvin, Ramonce gone. Finley was a good pass catcher but not sure he was interested in blocking. Shipley was a relative non-factor in 2007. For 2008-09, no TEs drafted, 2 WRs drafted (one was drafted because he was fast). Goodwin was a track guy that Colt threw to as a frosh. Shipley. Quan was a great college player but in spite of his rookie season NFL accolades didn’t even have 10 NFL catches. Chris O as a 7th rounder (recruited as a WR I believe). None on the Oline. That’s it. For back-to-back top 5 teams, I’d be surprised if you could find such a limited roster on one side of the ball. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Maybe you like Major more than most cause you give him credit for shit he didn’t do. Simms did not play a lick in San Diego. It was The Major that turned it over 3/4 times in that first half. Seems as though some tag Simms with an OU loss even though he didn’t start. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Fair to jump BO&W. Fair to argue with Derks. let’s discuss the simplicity of age being the factor you highlight regarding maturity. Go ahead and ignore the differences between Southlake and Tuscola. Both on and off the field. I’m guessing that 2A speed on the high school field was almost what he saw at Texas. I’d be damn curious to see a comparison of the two high school workout facilities. You know to see the options for that physical maturity could have developed. Then let’s discuss ball and how one QB got to play with his primary receiver and the complete turnover at his WR and RBs. By my count, Helm was the leading receiver. He was here all the time Ewers was here. Blue ended last year as a primary RB. He even logged more plays than Baxter versus UW. Here 3 years. 4th on the team in catches this year - 2 behind Wisner. Moore was #2 of the WRs in catches this year. Yes, I believe the lack of continuity was impactful but at least be accurate. And where exactly did you get your NFL experience? I was curious and looked up a few guys. I couldn’t find Greg Smith or Hix or Huey ever played a down. Think it was Huey that was signed then cut, signed then cut. Colt got 1-2 years with a high percentage of those offensive guys you referenced. But nice job highlighting many offensive guys that were gone after Colts freshman year. Only to be replaced guys that were not of similar caliber. His last two years what offensive guys were drafted? Shipley and Chris O? I guess Marquise who was a freshman (but I guess doesn’t count as turnover). He compiled stats. He compiled wins. He carried the offense. He took a beating. He made plays when he needed to make plays. He did it with his legs. With his arm. Yeah, pretty much overrated. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Stuff happens. Sometimes you’re lucky; sometimes not. Lots of massive plays in that USC game. We made many of those. That failed interception was their missed opportunity. If that doesn’t happen 4th and 5 doesn’t happen. Gardere may be 4-0 versus OU but at least in one he was the beneficiary of tremendous defense. For me, an isolated play or game doesn’t define any player. I dont discount a player like Colt simply because he didn’t win it all. Just like I don’t consider winning a championship to mean that player is greater than another who didn’t. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
I’m guessing top 150. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Thank goodness for the Ting brothers. Or at least one of them. Wasn’t Peter the Great QB when we beat OU 10-7? And the TD was Bubba Jacques scoop and score. -
All time Texas QB Ranking Discussion - 2025
Had Enough replied to BurntOrange&White's topic in Football
Those are some very good points on Street. Presumably that early in converting the offense, those reads are more difficult too simply because he hadn’t had a ton of reps yet. As for Colt, think about it, two years running he basically left the game with the lead (technically he had 1 second versus Tech, and were driving versus Bama but hadn’t scored yet). That’s pretty incredible.
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