Had Enough

Bullshit bub. I did see the Chiefs lose a TD then a shot at the FG due to penalties. Their offense didn’t do shit in the 2nd half so not sure what holding you are referencing. There weren’t any PI calls that should have been made. I’m sure there was some bitching about the pick in the end zone. There was early contact, but the ball was uncatchable. Bush was not letting that ball by him.

Didn’t read the whole thread but have seen the bitching about the refs. First off, the worst non-call was the leg whip in the end zone against Chris Jones. That’s two points Chiefs and Chiefs ball. The Roquan PF was absolutely a PF. You knock a defenseless player on his ass without a live play it’s a PF every time. And the distance was largely inconsequential anyway. The hold versus Likely? Probably was a hold but it’s likely looking at PI as a possibility but the give up on the play made that component moot. From a field perspective it had no impact on the play. At a minimum you should understand why it wasn’t called.

I think Worthy’s year 2 will be discounted somewhat regarding drops and tracking. It’ll be pretty easy to explain away the drops because of a broken hand. His drop rate this year and I believe freshman year was lower than Flowers last year and Marvin Harrison Jr this year. His sophomore drop rate was more the outlier. Mitchell’s was great this year with only one drop, but he was 17% as a frosh. Typically, fans of their own team scrutinize the hell out of their team but far less so of others. The tracking consideration is similar, in my opinion. He didn’t have that issue as a frosh. He didn’t really have that this year. You can reference that UW play. I put that more on timing than tracking. Sanders had one or two in that UW game too. Last year you had instances of Sanders, Whittington, Roschon having plays with difficulty finding the ball. Overall Worthy has a lot of production so he’ll have lots of positive plays that can provide counters to the perceived negative ones. I saw one scouting report that referenced a 10.5 100M, a 4.29 40. We shall see.

I have no idea where they’ll go, but the NFL is pro smallish, quick twitch, create separation guys. Now, he may be too skinny for their liking, but Flowers, Waddle, Duvonts Smith, Jordan Addison, Tank Dell are similar profiles. Small, quick twitch with run after catch skills. Then last years draft you had Quinton Johnston and Jonathan Mingo drafted who are taller guys that did little. In the 2022 draft you had Garrett Wilson, Olave, Jahan Dotson on the smallish side. Also Drake London and Treylon Burks as the bigger guys. And many of the successful guys had a rather sustained level of production at the collegiate level which Worthy does. Worthy’s biggest weakness is making the catch against tight coverage. Do NFL guys think he can create enough separation to offset that.

By my count there were 7 Big 12 offenses in the top 30 in OFEI. There were 7 in the SEC. We did not play 2 from the 12 but played 1 from the SEC then we had UW. So at least in one metric, half our schedule was against top 30 offenses. That doesn’t include Gundy and Holgerson who’ve done well historically on the offensive side. This staff attempts to address areas of need. So perhaps there will be more emphasis on pass defense than run defense. With Sarks calling card being offense and having his dream QB, offensive line with 100+ starts under their belt, the best WR corp NIL can buy, the offense simply needs to run away with some games. They did not do this and often gave the opponent hope and life in various ways.

As best I can tell, Mitchell has never been the #1 target on any of his teams. In only 7 of 30 games has he caught 4 or more passes. He’s tall but not overly physical it seems. He hasn’t caught 100 passes and it’d be surprising if he was the primary focus for an opponent’s gameplan. If you’re drafted in round 1, aren’t you a #1 WR that gets heavy targets? He hasn’t shown that to date. Worthy for example caught 4 or more in 11 games this year alone and mid to high 20s in 39 games. Sanders is at about 14 of 27 games. It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

On the flip side if he’s not at Lake Travis, there’s a good chance he never reaches the NFL so thanks to the parents for providing him that opportunity.

Well timing will make that difficult cause they all have to be draft eligible. Here’s my burning question. What kinda dipshits thought this was a 8 win team heading into the preseason? With all this talent.

I’m a bit confused as to why a defensive line coach needs an assistant.

Of the last 5 Super Bowls, the defense was the primary factor in at least two victories. I’d say it was actually 3. There will be tons of Lamar talk but the Ravens are the favorites as much because of their defense. The QB is the most important player often but many a Super Bowl was won for reasons other than great QB play. Manning and Elway won when they weren’t particularly great at playing the position. For the Falcons, I believe they were much better running the ball last year than this year. I don’t believe that was solely attributable to QB play. That’s one thing they need to figure out.

It’ll be interesting. There will be great number or fans capped out on expenses and travel/vacation time.

How does this matter? Do you expect fans to attend both? I’d attend the national championship, but I’d be gone well before the Super Bowl as would almost all others I’d assume. I’m not sure who has the capacity to buy both tickets and sit around a week. So what’s the point?

Rice is a go to guy. Knowing how important and unique Kelce is, they need to consider Jatavion then look at picking up the WR later or even elsewhere. Murphy also would an interesting choice. If he can provide an interior pass rush but also hold up in the run game, that’s gold. I think he’s not got enough physicality and quickness to have a chance to pull off both. We are seeing more impactful TEs, but those skill sets at those two positions have been rather uncommon.

Yeah, I don’t care either. He’s still earning a lot and perhaps it made him a slightly better person.

Probably made easier because he played off ball coverage. What do you think?

And when you’re always in the middle you don’t have access to more sure fire stars when drafting. You best be on point or you might be stuck in the abyss with no QB. I wouldn’t give up on Pickett yet. He needs a year free of the Canada offense.

Never said I had original content. Or perhaps I’m the beloved Ian Boyd.

This is a bit interesting. I understand that’s the general sentiment, but the defense arguably had a better season with less talent than the offense.

Y’all outta just trust the coaches.

Maurice Jones-Drew: He shouldn't be a Hall of Famer. His stats aren't there, and he was never one of the league's top receivers during his career. Speaking about Edelman. He was a 7th round pick as a former QB from a nothing college. The most TDs in a season was 7 and generally was 11 yards per catch. Not sure if accurate but a quick read says he was never a pro bowler. Welker was undrafted and cut once. He was great and did get some accolades no doubt but was second fiddle to Moss. He also only had 50 TD catches and was an 11 yard per catch guy. Troy Brown had 1 pro bowl. He is NE Hall of Famer but outside of their circle was never really hyped as a star. 31 TD catches. There’s probably more appreciation for them post career than during it. All 3 late draft picks or undrafted that are likely miscast and underutilized with any other team.

They had a lot of underappreciated guys. NE was probably the first to use the undersized but not overly fast WR. Troy Brown, Welker, Edelman. They weren’t stars, but they were incredibly difficult to cover on the underneath stuff. Edelman destroyed the Rams in that Super Bowl.

That first Super Bowl they won the AFC championship on the road without Brady. In the Super Bowl their offense scored 13 with the defense scoring 7. Nevermind the defense held down the Rams O. They also won a Super Bowl scoring 13 points which is the lowest winning total since 1975 or some shit. So that’s two Super Bowl wins with the offense along for the ride. The losses in which they gave up 21 and 17 were amongst the lowest scoring totals to win a Super Bowl in the last 50 years. They won 3 super bowls in Brady’s first 4 years of starting. Years in which he never completed more than 64% of his passes, never threw 30 TDs and had double digit picks in each of those years. Even that Falcons game, the Falcons scored on a pick 6. The Pats had 12 points into the 4th quarter when the defense caused a fumble that ended with a 25 yard TD drive. And of course the Seahawks blew it. They were fortunate the Bills, Dolphins and Jets were largely crappy during this time. To act as though this run wasn’t heavily influenced by defense and special teams is completely off base. That’s the Bill factor.

DFEI was #12 in 2014, #43 in 2015 and #44 in 2016. The OFEI was 95, 87, and 66. I guess the Big 12 wasn’t great across the board but two top 10 teams along with top 20 KSU. I’m not sure how good Bedford was but Baylor and TCU were in their heyday offensively. OU began stuttering until Riley came on board. Mahomes was at Tech. I don’t know the inner workings of recruiting, but there are too many guys hanging out in or around the NFL to say they were horrible recruiters especially considering that it was only 3 years with the first year being a short one. But maybe Herman and staff were great developers. Those defenses were mediocre in 15 and 16 because they were young. The offense was terrible. That KU loss that ended it all had the defense pitching a shutout for 3 quarters but 6 turnovers were the issue. Ironically enough those 6 turnovers were at the hands of future NFLers.

I’m not sure it matters. Give me option C. Tomlin has a big impact on why his roster is as it is. He’s halfway tried to get a QB, but I’m not sure Canada wasn’t the bigger issue. Dan Moore and whatever that C from Illinois that got let go were relatively high draft picks. They picked Najee when they needed help upfront. I do like their offensive skill guys, but the offense is terrible. They’ve got good defensive guys upfront but struggle to cover.

He also hired Canada. And playoff defense giving up 42 a game won’t win much. He’s had plenty of time to get a QB and OL. All that’s on him.