Had Enough

Well there is an N in Out nearby.

I understand the intent of the scheduling. It wasn’t too long ago that Southern Miss was respectable and UNLV was very poor. But let’s give Michigan some credit for their OOC schedule next year since maybe the program isn’t trying to run and hide. That doesn’t say anything about this year, but I’m looking forward to it.

FSU played the equivalent of a Big 10 West conference schedule in the ACC. Ohio State, Penn State and Iowa, yes Iowa compared to LSU, Louisville, Clemson. Michigan had: UNLV who was a good squad and Bowling Green beat the 4th place team in the ACC. There were 5 ACC teams with .500 in conference records. FSU played 1 in the regular season. One. That team lost to two Big 10, each with 3 conference wins.

I was thinking in 2005 they allowed it then in 2009 they did not. Was there a specific cutoff date stated?

Did that happen this year?

Not all conferences play 4 non-conference games so those that do are more likely to schedule 2 decent opponents. In the last 11 years, I believe UF has had a losing record in 5 seasons. Steve Spurrier and Urban are not there. LSU is Bamas 3rd best win. Ole Miss beat LSU and played Ga Tech, Tulane and Georgia and had a better overall record than LSU. So Bama played Georgia, Texas and Ole Miss in addition to LSU. FSUs best opponent was Bamas 4th best.

Yep. The Big 12 may not always be great but over the course of the season many of the teams improve and will fight back. Decent to good QB and good coaching matter too.

Well sure. I personally don’t believe FSU did any better/more than Ohio State or Georgia. I think Oregon would beat them too. With Travis playing. In my opinion they won them all because the challenges were limited.

Perhaps. But that could be cumulative lifetime giving, which is still a ton. Or could be a one time deal.

Michigan obliterated most of their opponents though. Not sure they ever trailed by more than 3, which was about twice in Q1. That’s a pretty poor schedule, but they beat more 10 win teams than FSU did. They beat as many .500.

There’s also bitching about seeding/matchups, locations. That is a big deal like it or not.

8,000 points is a ton. Think that’s about $400,000 given. Maybe top 20% equates to about 800 points.

And nobody gives a shit about those other divisions. The playoffs are happening right now in other divisions and no one cares. As previously mentioned, the NFL and basketball have significantly less and more teams. Both play more games. That means less variability in the schedule. And there is bitching about March Madness every year anyway. A 12 team format only makes arguments differ. Why does such and such deserve a bye? Why do they get a home game over us? They’re not worthy of the 12 spot over us. You think the SEC and Big 10 will be satisfied when a G5 gets a spot over their 4th team? I don’t, but who knows. Best guess is it goes to 64 teams in conferences, and they play it out amongst those in the regular season. Get it down to 8. Then conference winners down to 4. They’ll play games in shitty venues like Att and NRG with lower capacities and less than great environments.

My post was part curiosity to drill down on those records. I agree that Liberty and FSU are not the same. With respect to polls, I’ve never been a fan of ranking based on losses, which by and large is how it goes. Too many teams, too many variations in schedules. So Im favor of breaking that mindset. And college football is such that teams evolve over the year. Ga Tech is likely better than the version Ole Miss got. The season is a grind and it leads to games like us versus Houston. There’d be a very small chance they’d be competitive if we played again next week. There’s been a fair amount of discussion about Bama having improved since we played and the assumption that they’ve done more so than we have. We have scored 100 and given up 30 the past two weeks. Likely cause the grind was coming to an end allowing for more focus to reach the end goal. We like to compare conferences, but as conferences expand, these comparisons become less reliable. From my perspective a win over Vandy is insignificant. In FSUs case, maybe it is bad luck that in conference they played the bottom dwellers and missed out on those that finished higher. But the larger the conference, the more likely that is to occur. I don’t care for it but the answer is 4 conferences of 16 teams. Each of two divisions. Throw out any non-conference games in determining who advances to the conference final. That is as close to non-controversy you’ll get.

MSU beat Arizona who ended up 1 spot behind LSU. FSU won more convincingly so I suppose that was more impressive. Mizzou beat K-State. Ole Miss beat Tulane and Ga Tech. Auburn beat Cal. Georgia over Ga Tech. Kentucky over Louisville. Tenn over Virginia. Georgia over Ga Tech. FSU beat LSU. Miami over Ags. FSU over UF. South Carolina lost to Clemson, UNC. Vandy lost to Wake. Louisville beat last place Indiana. Pitt lost to the last place Big 12 team. Virginia lost to everybody Cept William&Mary. NCSU over Marshall. Syracuse beat Purdue, Army. Duke beat Northwestern. UNC beat Appalachian (in OT), Minnesota. Several beat Notre Dame, several lost (Clemson, Louisville won). BC lost to N. Illinois, beat Holy Cross by 3. Ga Tech lost to Bowling Green by double digits, lost to Ole Miss by 20+. They finished tied for 4th. Va Tech, also tied for 4th, only beat Old Dominion. So the ACC non-con wins worth anything are LSU (9-3), A&M (7-5), Appalachian State (8-5), Northwestern (7-5, that’s pushing it), and Notre Dame (9-3). I suspect all conferences have sketchy non-conference resumes, but the ACC claiming superiority is not based on anything other than beating crappy teams. Even the SEC-ACC is weighted a bit towards top tier ACC teams beating bottom tier SEC teams.

FSU is bitching cause they don’t get a bye then a home game. Actually they get the bye vs Liberty, which leaves #13-15 bitching cause they’re better than Liberty.

First off, back out North Alabama since they aren’t a real team. Also, consider an average UF team was missing their QB. Thought I read that they lost their top two rushers in that game as well. Then ask yourself how they trailed North Alabama by two scores.

And USF scored 3 points. You don’t win many scoring 3 points.

I think it was a poor call. The defenders were put in a no-win position due to the late slide.

I’m a little curious about the ACCs scheduling. I don’t know who was supposed to do what per preseason prognostications. UNC and Miami were to be good, but the rest I don’t know. Clemson and Duke were to be good to very good I’d think. Unless my counting is off, FSU played bottom 5 of 6 finishers in the conference (I misstated this as all 6 previously). There were 8 of the 14 who finished .500 or better. FSU played 2 of them in the regular season. None of the top 4. I’ll highlight again Va Tech was the regular season opponent that finished highest in the conference standings - 5-3. The same Va Tech that lost to 4-8 Purdue, 6-6 Rutgers, and Marshall who went 3-5 in the Sun Belt. Those Big 10 teams tied with several others but only two teams had worse in conference records. As for Marshall they were tied for 3rd worst in conference record. One of the other two Southern Miss, an FSU non-conference opponent. Overall, they played 5 teams with winning records. Two at 7-5. One of those had the lead until their QB got hurt. The other had a QB playing in his 2nd game. They played two terrible teams in non-conference. So bad that game planning, physical difficulty are not a drain. It’s a virtual bye week. One of the challenges of going undefeated is the weekly grind of opponents that present something to drain your physical and mental energy. This is a weak P5 schedule. They trailed into the 2nd half in 5 games. They were outgained in 4 or 5, two by 100 or so yards. There’s a bit of a crack in P5 scheduling with so many teams in the conference that you run the risk of missing playing the top teams. That happened here and I wonder if UNC was the hoped for conference championship matchup. I’m not overly disappointed that FSU didn’t make it. I certainly understand their disappointment. They did win them all. The only time they looked good against a team with a pulse was game 1 versus LSU. Add in the Travis injury and this is why they are on the outside looking in.

Yes, this is the key. Pressure and maintain rush lanes. The occasional scamper is fine as long as we’re creating chaos.

Congrats to Wake beating Vandy. And UNC and Clemson beating South Carolina. Florida State beat LSU and a Graham Mertzless UF. Miami over the Aggies. Georgia beat GaTech. UK over Louisville. Tennessee over Virginia. Ole Miss over GaTech. The ACC won 1 game against the top half of the SEC. A&M might squeeze in as top half I suppose. The SEC won 3 against the top 4 in the ACC.

Starting next year win ‘em all, you are in.

Win impressively. Don’t skate by a mediocre Clemson because their walk-in kicker misses a 30 yarder (outgained by 100). Never ever schedule North Alabama. Don’t get outgained by 100 yards against BC. Get Southern Miss off the schedule. Start there. They got lucky too. Duke QB injured. UF QB out. Miami playing so well they benched their QB. All that before Travis got injured (except the UF game). They’re unlucky in that most years they are in.

The ACC has been weak for years. Lots of poor QB play too. Top to bottom it’s a poor conference. All the teams in are from major conferences. It’s sorta bad luck on FSUs part. The selling point isn’t even that we’re better. It’s we won against our crappy schedule. Never mind Georgia you got Bama; we got Louisville.