Had Enough

Yep. I don’t know the process but I think those responsible for negotiating need to take more control. I mention the Rose Bowl for several reasons, other than just being a great venue for my tastes. It’s seating capacity and not being tied to a professional team. It’ll never be perfect, but there needs to be a fight for those most loyal to the programs. You start with the season ticket holders and getting access for as many as you can.

Personally I’ve had season tickets heading into my 3rd decade. I don’t live in Austin and probably missed 3-5 home games over that span. Attend OU almost every year. Also make quite a few road games. Championships, bowl games. Been to quite a few. So no I’m not in solely for post season allocation, but the OU allocation and post season are important. I’m pretty damn loyal. I would consider myself relatively highly ranked in the points system. Got terrible Big 12 championship tickets, shut out now. So the value is now, do I save the money on season tickets to allow for purchasing the higher priced “most important” games?

How good is Tomlin really? The organization is great. That’s the seemingly universal opinion. He only won with a QB that he didn’t draft. They obvious hit on some draft picks like a TJ Watt, but they miss a ton. Najee when you need Oline. Then when you try to address Oline you miss. 3 playoff wins since 2010. He won the Super Bowl in year 2, returned in year 4. Then only 3 wins since. In the past 6 seasons, he’s won double digits only once. Did he build that team that won or did he inherit it?

People refuse to acknowledge that many conference championship games are a playoff game simply because there’s no bracket and it’s not referred to as such. Georgia and Oregon lost on neutral fields for the right to go. Effectively Michigan-OSU was that the week before. Texas-OSU and FSU-UL could have served as elimination games. I assume we’ll have conference championships much like this year next year. That’s pretty dumb to have those matchups then within the next month those teams possibly meet again. As for Georgia being favored, maybe they would be. But I certainly like Texas chances. I’m sure others feel the same.

So at what point do you question whether to buy season tickets? Ticket allocations have always been a problem. Quit playing in these small, shitty environment stadiums. If you ain’t got 90,000 capacity that a very large percentage go to the participating university, you can’t host a championship. Put it in the Rose Bowl every year as far as I’m concerned. A 7,000 seat allocation for the Big 12 championship, 13,000 for the Sugar and 20,000 for the championship is shitty. It was shitty in 2005 and 2009. The schools, conferences and ADs owe it to their loyal contributors to provide cheaper access to the most important games.

May be why there were so many no loss teams at the end of the regular season. It felt as though the Big 12 and SEC were down too.

Well there is an N in Out nearby.

I understand the intent of the scheduling. It wasn’t too long ago that Southern Miss was respectable and UNLV was very poor. But let’s give Michigan some credit for their OOC schedule next year since maybe the program isn’t trying to run and hide. That doesn’t say anything about this year, but I’m looking forward to it.

FSU played the equivalent of a Big 10 West conference schedule in the ACC. Ohio State, Penn State and Iowa, yes Iowa compared to LSU, Louisville, Clemson. Michigan had: UNLV who was a good squad and Bowling Green beat the 4th place team in the ACC. There were 5 ACC teams with .500 in conference records. FSU played 1 in the regular season. One. That team lost to two Big 10, each with 3 conference wins.

I was thinking in 2005 they allowed it then in 2009 they did not. Was there a specific cutoff date stated?

Did that happen this year?

Not all conferences play 4 non-conference games so those that do are more likely to schedule 2 decent opponents. In the last 11 years, I believe UF has had a losing record in 5 seasons. Steve Spurrier and Urban are not there. LSU is Bamas 3rd best win. Ole Miss beat LSU and played Ga Tech, Tulane and Georgia and had a better overall record than LSU. So Bama played Georgia, Texas and Ole Miss in addition to LSU. FSUs best opponent was Bamas 4th best.

Yep. The Big 12 may not always be great but over the course of the season many of the teams improve and will fight back. Decent to good QB and good coaching matter too.

Well sure. I personally don’t believe FSU did any better/more than Ohio State or Georgia. I think Oregon would beat them too. With Travis playing. In my opinion they won them all because the challenges were limited.

Perhaps. But that could be cumulative lifetime giving, which is still a ton. Or could be a one time deal.

Michigan obliterated most of their opponents though. Not sure they ever trailed by more than 3, which was about twice in Q1. That’s a pretty poor schedule, but they beat more 10 win teams than FSU did. They beat as many .500.

There’s also bitching about seeding/matchups, locations. That is a big deal like it or not.

8,000 points is a ton. Think that’s about $400,000 given. Maybe top 20% equates to about 800 points.

And nobody gives a shit about those other divisions. The playoffs are happening right now in other divisions and no one cares. As previously mentioned, the NFL and basketball have significantly less and more teams. Both play more games. That means less variability in the schedule. And there is bitching about March Madness every year anyway. A 12 team format only makes arguments differ. Why does such and such deserve a bye? Why do they get a home game over us? They’re not worthy of the 12 spot over us. You think the SEC and Big 10 will be satisfied when a G5 gets a spot over their 4th team? I don’t, but who knows. Best guess is it goes to 64 teams in conferences, and they play it out amongst those in the regular season. Get it down to 8. Then conference winners down to 4. They’ll play games in shitty venues like Att and NRG with lower capacities and less than great environments.

My post was part curiosity to drill down on those records. I agree that Liberty and FSU are not the same. With respect to polls, I’ve never been a fan of ranking based on losses, which by and large is how it goes. Too many teams, too many variations in schedules. So Im favor of breaking that mindset. And college football is such that teams evolve over the year. Ga Tech is likely better than the version Ole Miss got. The season is a grind and it leads to games like us versus Houston. There’d be a very small chance they’d be competitive if we played again next week. There’s been a fair amount of discussion about Bama having improved since we played and the assumption that they’ve done more so than we have. We have scored 100 and given up 30 the past two weeks. Likely cause the grind was coming to an end allowing for more focus to reach the end goal. We like to compare conferences, but as conferences expand, these comparisons become less reliable. From my perspective a win over Vandy is insignificant. In FSUs case, maybe it is bad luck that in conference they played the bottom dwellers and missed out on those that finished higher. But the larger the conference, the more likely that is to occur. I don’t care for it but the answer is 4 conferences of 16 teams. Each of two divisions. Throw out any non-conference games in determining who advances to the conference final. That is as close to non-controversy you’ll get.

MSU beat Arizona who ended up 1 spot behind LSU. FSU won more convincingly so I suppose that was more impressive. Mizzou beat K-State. Ole Miss beat Tulane and Ga Tech. Auburn beat Cal. Georgia over Ga Tech. Kentucky over Louisville. Tenn over Virginia. Georgia over Ga Tech. FSU beat LSU. Miami over Ags. FSU over UF. South Carolina lost to Clemson, UNC. Vandy lost to Wake. Louisville beat last place Indiana. Pitt lost to the last place Big 12 team. Virginia lost to everybody Cept William&Mary. NCSU over Marshall. Syracuse beat Purdue, Army. Duke beat Northwestern. UNC beat Appalachian (in OT), Minnesota. Several beat Notre Dame, several lost (Clemson, Louisville won). BC lost to N. Illinois, beat Holy Cross by 3. Ga Tech lost to Bowling Green by double digits, lost to Ole Miss by 20+. They finished tied for 4th. Va Tech, also tied for 4th, only beat Old Dominion. So the ACC non-con wins worth anything are LSU (9-3), A&M (7-5), Appalachian State (8-5), Northwestern (7-5, that’s pushing it), and Notre Dame (9-3). I suspect all conferences have sketchy non-conference resumes, but the ACC claiming superiority is not based on anything other than beating crappy teams. Even the SEC-ACC is weighted a bit towards top tier ACC teams beating bottom tier SEC teams.

FSU is bitching cause they don’t get a bye then a home game. Actually they get the bye vs Liberty, which leaves #13-15 bitching cause they’re better than Liberty.

First off, back out North Alabama since they aren’t a real team. Also, consider an average UF team was missing their QB. Thought I read that they lost their top two rushers in that game as well. Then ask yourself how they trailed North Alabama by two scores.

And USF scored 3 points. You don’t win many scoring 3 points.

I think it was a poor call. The defenders were put in a no-win position due to the late slide.