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  1. For what we need and what he brings, Golden is elite. He’s open short. He’s open deep. He catches balls that many don’t. Our first play of the game. He separated then made a move. The 4th and 13 was a great route. The 2 pointer was great hands. Helm as a pass catcher is pretty strong if not elite. The two Blue runs versus Clemson would not be duplicated by a ton of dudes. In the open field he’s incredibly good.
  2. A Quick Look at PFF shows Ewers with 76% adjusted completion %. Beck at 75%. I’m rounding so it’s less than 1%. Average depth of target has Beck at 8.8. Ewers at 7.8. For my team, I’d take Ewers now and the next level over Beck. But there are numbers to say take Beck. For either, the right situation is more important. I am most intrigued with Dart. Maybe he’s the next Matt Corral, but he’s mobile with good size and made some nice throws. He’s got experience and improved year over year. I’m not sure I’d take a QB top 5 unless I had my offensive roster built out otherwise.
  3. This is funny stuff. I’ve learned over the years no one can see all the stuff that goes down on any play. Sometimes even on slo mo and rewind you can’t tell. Or at least it takes more than one view. Based on every one else’s action, it’s a run. The only other option is RPO with a 1 man go route. Goosby and Helm are saying run. The RPO doesn’t make sense for several reasons. So, yes, the most logical conclusion is the error was on QB or RB. Maybe Dorbah makes the tackle. If not, you have a successful run play. So did Sark call a bad play or not? I think Dorbah did a great job as he may have forced the action and made the play.
  4. Something is off. Goosby releases to the 2nd level. Helm pulls up through the hole. Slot receiver is run blocking. LWR looks to be blocking. Indications are it was intended to be run.
  5. Yeah probably. That was not my intent. And it doesn’t matter ultimately. All did their job to success.
  6. Thought I said it was a great play, which includes the context and result. So that overriding theme is the ultimate takeaway. The objective is to make it catchable. He did. What we don’t know is whether Ewers short armed because he was tense or because he knew Golden had them easily beat. We do know that a vertical route is not one that is typically a basket catch caught at near the WRs waist with his back almost to the goalline. If we want call the Helm TD versus Clemson a “great” throw, then it’s fair to say this not is not good. It’s subjective. It’s semantics. I’m talking how you practice it, how you want to throw it given the expected defense. The throw itself was ok but the result was great. In my opinion. I know you believe Ewers saved Sarks ass and it was all Ewers (I don’t believe you fully think this). His best work was pre-snap. But post snap Golden was the primary reason it was successful. Oh and the pocket was pristine. And the throw was catchable. The QBs primary goal is to throw a catchable ball. Then you can evaluate from there.
  7. It was 4th and 13. They had momentum. Banks just false started right? We were a bit shaken. We get 12 yards game over. You talk about us going 5-wide to make reads easier. That’s what they did for us. Moore was likely not the option - believe he ran short of the sticks. So it’s Wingo or Golden. Luckily Golden abused his man. All the mental work was done presnap. Sark said in an interview they’d worked on that look. So kudos to all for that Golden route. The best odds of conversion in that situation will always be man on man. ASU had a defender about 3 yards off the ball, another about 8-10 yards deep guarding grass effectively playing with 9. The single high safety guarding the first down line. For me, that’s never hindsight in that situation. It’s a shortened field so Ewers is not likely to run for a first against a zone. He’s been reluctant all year to let it rip in that intermediate area. You have to make the offense think a bit post snap then make a contested throw and catch.
  8. I’ve been trying to learn more about it but not sure they’d want the ultimate formula known. I have not looked at overall ranks since this past game, but he’s likely jumped up a fair amount after Clemson and ASU I’d think. His turnover worthy plays is pretty high. His big time throws has been low. From what I recall, his intermediate grade was not good and his deep ball grade was pretty solid but not spectacular. The big time throws come in those categories whereas the turnover worthy ones come at any depth. His sack rate per pressure may be high again. His pressure rate is relatively low. I don’t have numbers to support but he’s not really a create his own play guy. So not only is he not getting the big time throws he’s not getting plus grading out of his running or sack avoidance. The formula is the same for all so the methodology doesn’t dislike Quinn. Every play of every game is watched. Unlike the fan that thinks they have a grasp on who does what best. At one point, I had read there’s an element to the grading that effectively says just cause you got a sack doesn’t mean you get a positive grade. Maybe it’s just neutral because the expectation is that everyone would have done the same. If so, id speculate we have a relatively high rate of neutral plays. For me, it’s difficult to reconcile his game. For sure in the college game, I don’t care about arm strength. The very biggest, most important play that he’s made was the 4th and 13. And his arm had little to do with it. It really wasn’t a good throw but rather the mental was what made the play. And Sark is very good at setting up easy QB plays. The Oline is very good in pass protection. Very few, if any, have had faster, more dependable pass catchers. Fans generally critically review their own so their view is we sucked versus Georgia. That’s every week for some QBs. Oh our pass catchers dropped balls. Again, so do most others not named Ohio State, Clemson included. Name me one play in Ewers career in which he did like Leavitt on that Jahdae free rush. Made him completely whiff then got outside Moore and got rid of it moving to his left no less with Taaffe bearing down on him. It was a tough catch but Golden made about 3 catches that I’d consider similar. At the end of the game, that shows as 0-1 for the QB on that play but hard to blame him. It looks terrible in the rating. Not sure how it goes on QBR. I cannot imagine it being a negative on PFF and would actually view as a positive as he evaded a near certain sack. Stats be damned. PFF grading be damned. His goal is to win. He doesn’t have to do it alone. He never has while here. He has to make 5-10 plays a game, and we’re good. Maybe a few more versus Ohio State. At this point it can be ugly. We’re not necessarily fixing anything at this juncture. Just execute enough colllectively to win.
  9. I just now saw this. But speaking as a wing T QB from the 80s, I’m not taking a ton from that offense. But maybe it’s bitter old man phase coming out.
  10. Interesting timing as I’m watching the replay. They’re showing Blues two TD runs versus Clemson. The same formation as this TD to Helm. However, Blues runs were to the strength of the formation whereas this fake to Wisner was to the weakside.
  11. I don’t think that was man defense. Maybe ASU treated it as a 3x1 and matched up the CB with Wingo by virtue of that. He for sure followed him. It doesn’t make any sense for the opposite S or LB to man up on Helm. There was no one overly aggressive in manning Wisner up either. This is the TD play that people desire. Sark dictated to them how he wanted them to react, and they followed suit. If they somehow handle Helm, they have a Wisner problem. Maybe not a TD, but a successful play.
  12. I was there yes. It was PA. Great play call. Helm was a TE on the right side. He delayed and the S came up enough to get the needed separation. The run action in conjunction with the Helm delay largely made the play. My point is that when 2nd/3rd level defenders play downhill and are successful doing so they will continue to play downhill so play action can be successful when situations dictate.
  13. My first paragraph was in reference to the season on the whole. Play action is Sarks idea of offense. It’s going to continue. Posters here get their drawers all bunched up about shit. If you’re talking the two missed FG drives and the two OT drives, you’re only talking two scoring drives. The easy TD was play action. The other was a great play but incredibly stupid defensive play call. One was a two minute drive so not standard offense. The other, yes, was a missed FG from 48 yards out, but we didn’t put it in the end zone. And it wasn’t a short field goal either. We can win many ways. Even if the run game is not successful, the opponent respects it. We can certainly be successful throwing it too. Sark may frustrate you, but the first and last TDs were direct results of his philosophies and tendencies.
  14. Just for a little added context here on the play action. Ewers has a higher completion percentage, better TD/Int rate, higher yards per attempt and better sack rate with play action than with no play action. The lack of a run within a game is likely not that impactful within a game. The team prepares on what you’ve done collectively and with how they expect them to attack. It’s gonna be difficult in game to ask your 2nd and 3rd level defenders to not react to what they’ve practiced for two weeks. And it’s likely that if the run defense is successful, it will reinforce them to react to play action in a similar manner because they’re likely playing downhill.
  15. Can you double check that Hrlm game winning TD catch for me please?
  16. Your question about lack of motion is a great one. I’m not sure how that’s dumbing it down. Exactly how complicated could it be? It’s a great way to create matchups. Seems odd we’d run different plays in practice to have different offenses. On your last comment, this has been curious all season to some extent. Take that CB blitz in Ga game 1. Bolden is open but not tons of space. We don’t go there. Even that next game versus Vandy in which he hit Bolden on 3rd and 10 or whatever. He was hesitant out of the break. It worked just fine, but there’s a hint of what you’re referencing.
  17. I think there is potential merit to this. A QB can be too cautious. And a coach can coach a mentality out of you.
  18. In 2021, we had Jones-Okafor/Angilau-Majors-Angilau/Imade-Kerstetter. All but Majors were upperclassmen. Once they got over running into each other versus ArKansas, they were solid. I am assuming that to get all the Banks-Campbell class we needed room and an open lane to early playing time. I don’t remember all the specifics but would think that Imade, Okafor could have been invited back but weren’t for this reason, amongst maybe others. But for sure in 2022, we had now multi-year starters in Jones (4th year?), Majors (3rd year) and Angilau. We for sure could have had Karic (it was mentioned that he couldn’t play G, a position he started at a playoff SEC school ). We could have had Parr, a non-freshman but future starter on a playoff team, or Johnson, who at a minimum started at another Big 12 school. I’d assume Banks was a day 1 starter. So you’ve got Banks-Angilau-Majors-Open-Jones. Angilau gets hurt so now two spots looking for serviceable players. Potential options from 2021 were Imade/Okafor (thinking they could have gotten a Covid year), Parr, Karic, Johnson (maybe he was already gone) and Conner. And what 6 other frosh. It was not ideal but workable. I believe we chose youth over some maturity. That’s fine for the end goal, but it likely hindered the short term.
  19. I liked the parts on the OLine. The instability of staff and system hurt those guys. And my opinion was that several weren’t the Flood prototype. Hard to say Karic, Parr did not go on to be productive. Ty Johnson had some production too. I don’t blame Sark for year 1 getting big hauls on the LOS. But we’ve gotten limited production from those Dline recruits to date and lots from the Oline. 2022 might have looked considerably different had Junior not gotten hurt. Great effort guy. That caused younger guys to get thrust into the lineup too.
  20. So are you on the Sark is a mastermind or not so much? USC was too long ago. The Bama rankings and our rankings are part the reason for the question. Talent-wise we’re comparable. Physically Ewers is better than Mac. I am not one to say the HC can’t be the play caller, but there’s enough to question right here, right now whether Sark needs to fulfill both roles. Could be. In my opinion, each of the 4 years we could have been better. Each year we seem to hit too many lulls in games.
  21. So let’s look at a little DFEI. 2017 - 6th against the #12 offenses. 2018 - 29th against the 8th. 2019 - 42nd against the 14th. 2020 - 37th against the 34th. 2021 - 47th against the 10th. 2022 - 8th against the 9th. 2023 - 6th against the 10th. 2024 - 2nd against the 40th. Let’s keep in mind it’s likely that the 2024 offensive version has improved their standing over the regular season due to the Georgia/Clemson games. Based on these metrics, it’s worth noting that our 2024 SEC-SEC-SEC schedule was not a gauntlet. The obvious and clear jump in the Sark era is on the defensive side of the ball. There is a clear influx of offensive talent over the Herman era although his accumulation of offensive guys was underappreciated (don’t take that to mean Herman is the second coming). More depth pretty much everywhere. There is some consideration to the QB gets too much credit and too much criticism theory. It’s certainly present here. And ironically enough the defense, and it’s players, get considerable criticism in prior years even though they’ve been the better unit for 3 years running. As an example in the Bama 2023 game, since that’s the premier game in the Ewers era. That was tied for their 2nd lowest point total of the season. The defense set our offense up at the Bama 30 and the 5 and represented the only game in which Milroe threw two picks. Yet there’s a little talk about the defense in that game. So, yeah, it’s not clear that Ewers is better, or more important, to his teams success than Sam. And for those that want to post up Ewers for the team’s success but rail on those defenders probably need a bit of an ass whipping.
  22. All it’s a good day. @HenryJames is hanging out.
  23. You kids have been a little quiet lately so it’s nice to get the hostility flowing. one thing that gets me fired up about this discussion is “he’s the best QB we’ve had in 15 years” point. But I’m a team first guy. So I did a little looking. OFEI. Overall rank first then opponent defensive strength second. 2017 - 95 against the 65th ranked defensive schedule. 2018 - 17th against the 46th. 2019 - 9th against the 18th. 2020 - 17th against the 11th. 2021 - 35th against the 45th. 2022 - 17th against the 29th. 2023 - 19th against the 36th. 2024 - 17th against the 28th. One thing that jumps at me is if Sark is such a mastermind, why haven’t his offenses done better relatively speaking? It is not a talent issue. I’d assume that damn near everyone likes this offensive staff better than Herman’s. I appreciate Sarks creativity. His overall program building is tremendous. I still say we’re the favorite to win it all. Keep that in mind when I give you part 2 of my Quinn Ewers is the greatest QB of the last decade discussion.
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