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I'm probably way behind, but this exchange interests me as a policy matter. How would the logistics of arresting them, transporting them to camps, setting up those camps, and maintaining those camps even at the cruel level Trump would prefer work? To where would Trump deport millions of undocumented immigrants? Sounds like it will be far more difficult than building a wall, and we all saw how that went. So, Donald will classify millions of people as not belonging here at all. They are a threat to us and our pets. What do you do while you're waiting for the Trump Troopers to come remove them? You must protect yourself and your family!
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Definitely would love to see Iran evolve from theocracy. I just recall stories of our destruction of their democracy and installation of the Shah. You never say that we should do it ourselves. I just can't help twitching at the phraseology. Thanks for responding.
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I don't know your posting history. Your list of predictions above seems rational. The sentence above makes me twitch. That's usually the first naive thought leading to a murderous attempt at regime change where we totally miscalculate what it means for us. Nothing is ever clean. Ever. It's like the absurd notion of "surgical strike" bombing. They're bombs not scalpels.
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I was being wry. It's correct that many of us use those epithets. They're fair characterizations. I was hoping the second part would be what came through. There is no hyperbole in describing the wickedness that was just chosen by a majority of the American people. That choice is the most demoralizing of my life, and I was dumbfounded when W (supposedly) got re-elected. I complain about reporting, but what these people are is very clear.
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Non-partisan "Fuck the Status Quo" Thread of Dominance
RomaVicta replied to Hank Kingsley's topic in Cloak Room
Hyperbole, I guess, but: A criminal is in charge of the government and he intends to dismantle the republic. Oh, and likely rob the republic, too. Truce feels too much like surrender. I'm not happy about that, but there it is.- 636 replies
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You slunk into the stadium after the game was over, hiding your voice and reason from light and examination. The world has so much love and respect for snowflakes who show up to gloat after avoiding the fight. Bravo, sir!
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This was the issue. This was the newsstory. This should have energized a vast majority to reject Trump's clearly stated intentions for the future backed by the evidence from what he has done in the past. This is the real paradigm of conflict. The old paradigms of policy are so secondary as to be basically irrelevant. I had to spend time in the car yesterday to get a knee looked at in Austin. I grit my teeth and turned on public radio to hear show after show tease their upcoming analysis of the election from their experts. I'd turned off the coverage at 930pm Tuesday and only come here to confirm what was evidently happening. So, I'll listen to some radio. Show after show talked about exit polls and why the electorate rejected Harris: inflation. the economy. Biden. Sometimes there would be a mildly stated footnote that actually these things were doing pretty good. The perception was wrong. Hmmmm, why? They were not interested in pursuing that. In the discussion of important issues, what softlynow describes above was left out. As for the public's misperception of reality, nobody wanted to explore that. They said evidently Proposition 2025 didn't matter as much because Trump had distanced himself. The complete corruption of good faith discourse was not discussed. That's a too fancy way to say the Trump campaign's stream of outrageous lies was not discussed as a strategy and the danger it poses to productive political discourse. The degree to which the electorate knew what Prop 2025 was was not discussed. Certainly the reason for the ignorance was not addressed by those responsible for reporting. Digging into why so few Trump voters cared about the stated intentions to wreck the republic wasn't on the shows' agendas. Their own failures were evidently not even recognized. They can't even report the disaster this poses for the country considering who will fill key rolls and why it's bad. It was the usual tired template repeated over and over. The giant story of the election of a felon who stole state secrets and sent a mob to invade the Capitol and what this means about this country's processes and character was not discussed. Lastly, in discussing the female vote not one person mentioned Christian Nationalism as a possible element swaying female voters about reproductive rights or even privacy rights once (correctly) taken for granted. In fact, Christian Nationalism was never mentioned whatsoever while I was listening. Of course, nobody talked about the larger problem of the white man. Nobody ever does.
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Man, it does my heart good when someone posts a gem like this. I wasn't a punk but I loved that movement. Energy. Darkness. Wit. I can't name many songs, but I loved that presence. Perhaps I'm whimsical for some real expression. This Teddy Bear Song was used in a car commercial. Moving in it's scowling way. Farewell Punk. You can hear me laughing to myself If you could you would be someone else I wish Jodie Foster's Army or G. Gordon Liddy's Marching Band would set up outside the White House next spring and never stop.
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Well, this is a whole 'nother topic for me. I think a lot of that is sidetracked by the promotion of the lowest common denominator of what a "guy" is. It's an appeal to insecurity and conformity which have always been part of male development. Be sensitive, and you're a fag. Be intellectual and you're a nerd. Bother to talk about women in other than purely sexual contexts, and you reveal yourself as very non-guy. Sportscasters generally represent this shit as a profession. Not all of the them, but most of them. These big tough former athletes tremble in fear of being something other than a guy. There used be things called men.
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Suggested change for accuracy.
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Powerful. "No! You!"
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It's the media. Hollywood. Really? What the fuck are you talking about? They're a prized demographic. Media includes talk radio. Are you suggesting that Rogan plus the conservative whine shows don't pander the demographic? You hear a lot of liberal intellectual woke-ism on sports programming? You think the glut of comic book movies look down on white males? Without using the pick and choose method of anecdotal "argument," your case is idiotic. DEI initiatives? Yes, there are weaklings who blame that for tossing a fly in their punchbowl of opportunity. Let's keep that shit all to our own snowy white asses. Trying being men rather than entitled, pandered males scared of the queens and the blacks and those deadly families fleeing Nicaragua to gratefully take menial jobs here. I'm an older white male, and I look down on the angry weaklings who wanted things to be easier for them than anyone else. I twice lost promotions due to affirmative action. I thought that my parent's generation fought WW2 as a sacrifice for their country, so me missing a promotion to involve women and minorities in the world that had been closed to them was a pretty easy sacrifice. I knew I'd get other opportunities. I got to feel kind of good about being a citizen. The grievance-oriented will laugh, of course. I'll look down on that, too.
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The second part is certainly true. That's pretty much my point. I expected more.
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I'm sure the world will be shocked when he's found to be lying. Again.
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"Common people" is a euphemism for the Trump voter. They're no more common than the 70 million who vote Dem. The demographic in question here isn't unhappy because the Dems don't "get" them. They're unhappy with the Dems because they are not the only group being catered to. Ironically, these young un-college educated white males feel entitled to more than their share. Hate radio nurtured this into resentment of ebil libs who want to do fancy things like protect the environment, tolerate those whom are different, and not recognize what we all know about the superiority of the white race. These insecure fuckwads have to believe in some terrible threat hiding in the people they insist are pussies and snowflakes. Thus: guns out the ass. Thus: easy appeals to racsism because your nigras are driving around in white neighborhoods and demanding not to be shot for speeding. These very specific "common" people do not connect to the Democratic Party for good reason. They're intolerant dickheads without a clue.
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Other than our sickeningly unflagging support of the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinians, our only other notable failure was caused by the GOP by obstructing military aid to Ukraine. Our prestige was restored. Of course, that's out the window now. Seems we've kept up our end of our alliances. No big hiccups in trade policy. We seem to be cooperating to a much better extent in the global efforts (such as they are) to address climate cataclysm. Our foreign policy is generally cheap theater for the rubes at home mostly involving useless invasions or airstrikes. Nothing abnormal there.
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How can 72 million people who will believe any lie Trump and their preacher tell them be wrong?
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It's interesting how apt the above are no matter how the future was to play out. They say something astute and important about what we reject or what we embrace. They seem to be parody, which was my reaction when I first saw them, but they are mostly founded in obvious truth. They seem genuinely brilliant to me now. I'd returned to thread to recall how I cringe at cartoons like the below: The happy assumption about a world so basically good that it will spit out an enemy to liberty cloys as a prediction or statement of the moment. It would have been solid enough this morning had Trump been rejected. I suppose there is some value in reminding me that I'm an idiot for expecting something similar to the image. I guess I come here and write at length because I'm shell-shocked and not quite sure where to turn my mind. How can all of this be?
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Fitting to gloat like your NFL or NBA team won. Hooray for the jersey! And the nation for which it stands.
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I'm aligned with Mr. Fuck. It was nice to feel happy and hopeful for a few months. It's not uncommon at all for me to be wrong in a political prediction. When a nation tells you who they are, believe them. Hateful, fearful, racist "Christian" nationalists who chose an anti-moral would-be totalitarian to lead them. The belief that the US would spit Trump out made the first term amusing as well as maddening. It won't be amusing this go 'round. What is bitterly interesting is observing so many here talking about issues like inflation, Dem mistakes with voters, and other issues. That's old paradigm. This was a conquest not a rational debate. Checkmate. (moved this from the election prediction thread)
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[Thanks @4th and 5. I've moved this to Trump's America.] Checkmate.
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I was delighted with the trajectory of the Texas program when all our opponents were tearing down their goldposts goalposts in Macovic's last season.
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All you chuckleheads coming into CR for the first time in years…
RomaVicta replied to Bateshorn's topic in Cloak Room
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