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Liucci Segment 1 (00:00:00 - 09:20:19) I am not happy with the way things finished. No one should be. If the people in the building across the street weren't really disappointed by it, then it's the wrong coaches and players. I don't believe that is the case. They were working yesterday because they know it is not good enough. I don't expect anyone to be happy about it. Where I draw my personal line is if you are going to be an ass, then I will take you being an ass and raise you the biggest jerk you have ever seen. I treat people well, but I treat you how you treat me. People in real life are nice. People on a site, whether on TexAgs or any website, become an outlet for this inner jackass. I have no time for those people. It's a very small but very loud percentage. The normal sports fan is pissed about the way the season went. I am, too. It's different covering the team, but for all the people who flew out to South Carolina, Auburn or Vegas or paid top dollar to watch A&M-Texas, it's very disappointing. It's frustrating. If you want to get angry about it, I get it. A lot of people devote a lot of time, resources and energy towards helping the program win. I get all of that. Where I draw my line is when you don't have the right to expect people to not say, "I don't want to hear that." If you don't want to hear anything positive, don't listen to it. If it's not negative enough for you, I don't know what to tell you. The way to go here is to be calm, rational and honest, but see the big picture and be fair about it. For the people who get mad about someone not being angry enough, listen to the words and conversation. If that is not enough for you, then don't listen. We are being more than fair and plenty critical. There are things to be optimistic about. If you want to say you don't want to go there yet and be hopeful... Look, you got some nice wide receivers they are adding from the portal, and they are keeping key players with NIL. They are doing a great job with player retention. They signed a top-10 2025 class. They are doing nice things in the portal, and if they can finish off the defensive line, you feel really good. I wonder if there is room for another linebacker or defensive back. I would find myself another Scooby Williams-type. At times, I saw enough from the offense where you go, "I need to see it to believe it, and I am not going to buy in." I get that. To look at it logically and not expect a noticeable improvement in year one to year two, I think you are letting your anger get in the way. The personnel and the quarterback are plugged into where we are now and what he should be next year. If that is not for you, that's fine, but don't crap on anybody that frankly is trying to look ahead and see where the team should be better. There are plenty of reasons to say this thing should certainly work, and it is fair to say. If you guys don't think I am frustrated, or Nuño isn’t, or people at A&M aren’t, everybody is. It is what it is. There are a lot of college programs sitting in this position right now. A&M is in a unique position in that a lot is poured into this. It's year one of a head coach. There were ups and downs, and the downs were at the end of the season. Segment 2 (09:20:20 - 16:29:10) Everybody wants to be right. People will magically forget when they are wrong and tell you when they are right. 2021 was the early time people were getting on Jimbo Fisher. A year after that was an 8-4 season with a win over Alabama with a backup QB. Who would have known you would continue to have backup QBs with a bad offensive line? You didn't know that after 2021. You guessed right if you were out on Fisher after 2021. You probably guessed a lot of things wrong, too. I am wrong, too. But I am right a lot, and angry fans will never point that out. All of this is fine if you are not a jackass. If you run a Twitter account and are A&M-related and want to take a shot at us, I will not engage with that. I am not giving you a platform. If you are a site I don't respect, and most of them I do, but there are a couple that like to take shots at us. The door is right there. We don't do that on social media. We can have a conversation. It’s a failed effort if you try and bait me. Segment 3 (16:29:11 - 31:03:27) In Dan Campbell's first year with the Lions, they were 3-13. It doesn't happen overnight for a lot of people. Both things can be true. In its totality in year one, for any first-year coach, you can go down the list of things they did accomplish. All of you know it, and you choose to acknowledge it, or you don't. There is a reality of how you finished, and it should be. It dulls the enthusiasm. I am not just a fan, but I am a fan. I am a fan of the Astros. Some of you would love a show where we went crazy. It would get tiresome. The fans that want to crap on everything forever, it gets tiresome. Fans that want to be pissed watching A&M lose its fourth Power 4 game in a row, I get it. Everybody is mad. I get the anger, frustration and disappointment. I am not going to tell anyone that they shouldn't feel that way. The overwhelming majority appreciates our words and the show. I don't care if you don't like it. 8-5 in year one is not bad. Not good, but not bad. Better than a lot of teams historically around this league. People don't want to hear that now, but you know it's true. You were 8-5, but two of the wins were against top-10 teams. "But it was Missouri and LSU." That's not how we do it. 8-5 with four wins over teams with winning records. In the last three years combined, A&M won four games against SEC teams with winning records. This year, A&M beat Missouri, LSU, Florida and Arkansas. This is not a parade thing. The point is that there was an improvement in this program. The problem is the end of the season didn't make it feel like it. The reality is they lost two games basically on a play. They should’ve beat USC. They should have beaten Auburn. You should have won them. A&M is not "a lot more talented" than South Carolina. It's probably even. They are not "a lot more talented" than Auburn. It's probably even. They are not "a lot more talented" than Florida. Florida couldn't get it figured out. They are getting pillaged in the portal. You look at A&M and see the defensive line talent then you look around and go, "Where are the NFL Draft picks?" They will be young guys. Guys like Chase Bisontis and Le'Veon Moss, but where were they outside of the defensive line and say, "That's a lay-down NFL guy”? You should have beat Auburn and USC. That's why you are frustrated. You know they should have been able to get a yard in three tries against Texas. You know that game should have been 17-14 with six or so minutes left. Then you put real pressure on that offense and Quinn Ewers. You get the 100,000 people that came to your stadium to root you on and be a real factor. You know those those things should have happened. That's why you are discouraged. It doesn't mean throwing the whole thing in the dumpster. It doesn't mean no one can have any optimism moving forward. Any player can go into the portal and make more money than they make on their current team. There will come a point where Texas, in the playoff run, will have conversations about whether they should keep a player because he is asking for "this." If the answer is "no," if they leave, they will probably get paid more than they would've gotten to stay at Texas. These guys that are staying, it’s not because of money. They could get paid anywhere. They are staying because they have optimism about where it’s heading. The recruits and portal commits have optimism. It's not a guarantee that this passing game will explode. Marcel Reed has to continue to develop, which, by the way, I thought he played a lot better. He has a ways to go. He was a freshman. These receivers have a lot of confidence in this passing game and quarterback moving forward. It's not unacceptable to talk about the future. You can do both and say, that sucked. But you can say the year was not a disaster, and it was a solid first season. Year two, to me, is the hardest one because the expectation is to make a jump. This team needs to figure out a way to win nine games. Go win a bowl game and be 10-3 next year. You look at the schedule, and it will be hard to do. NIL, you are up there. The expectation is to make a significant jump in year two with what I think is a harder schedule and three defensive linemen that went to the NFL -
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Liucci 12/29/24 Okay if this wasn't the travel day from hell. As if USC's last second, come-from-way-behind win wasn't enough, how about two hours on the runway in Vegas plus another hour waiting for a gate at IAH followed by a 45-minute wait at baggage claim then a nice drive to College Station in the fog. On second thought, maybe that fog was just me dealing with the lingering effects of the game. Either way, had some time to answer questions and will hit a lot more tomorrow in addition to some kind of video content. Enjoy. And forgive me for any typos, as this was written on the plane and with a faulty 'r' button on my keyboard! Just wanted to post it tonight as a normal thread rather than wait until the content crew could get it up tomorrow. Do you expect any changes to the coaching staff? Two things at work here. First one is that head coaches typically shy away from making changes following year one. That's especially true when the assistants essentially inherit their room. Times and circumstances are different now, however. We're in the portal era and the Aggies just dropped their last four games against Power 5 opposition and, for different reasons, each loss revealed real issues. Elko is not the type (at all) to sit back and accept what we saw down the stretch this fall so he's not likely to be bound by the "well this was year one and we're a new staff looking to turn things over" mantra others I've covered have been. Haven't heard of any specifics but I have been doing this a long time. I'd expect at least a slight degree of attrition whether it would a change from within or someone finding an opportunity elsewhere thus freeing up a spot. We'll know soon enough but I'm confident Elko will take a very honest look at how his staff performed in 2024 and have an uncomfortable conversation if he has to. And that's true for at any point during his tenure here. What are your general thoughts and feelings right now both short and long term? Long term I believe the guy coaching at Texas A&M is going to figure it out. I actually would like to sit down with him at TA more often this off-season so folks could learn a little more about the way he's running and building the program, day to day and big picture. It's part of why I'm confident he's the dude to get this thing going how it needs (and deserves) to be. But he has to get there, and doing so requires winning in the short-term. The Ags were doing that at a very impressive clip following Notre Dame but fell hard in November. So we're all adults here and understand that a lot of potential 'in the moment' momentum was lost by not winning a game or two more (winnable ones, at that) and shocking the country by appearing in Atlanta. I even think last night was a chance to score tangible momentum entering the off-season and the Ags didn't do that (in pretty embarrassing and discouraging fashion, no less). My short-term concern is this coming season because time waits for no coach or program in the SEC and the Ags are in need of a strong close to the portal season because there are real holes to fill (beyond just one more playmaking receiver and shoring up the d-line in a big way) and the schedule is much more unforgiving in 2025. Elko and Co. need to attack this second half of the early portal window in a big way. Coaching changes? Thanks I'll hang up and listen. See above. Feel like I'll be saying that a lot here. What are the odds Bateman gets fired? No idea on odds of such things but the head coach and DC clearly have a lot to figure out when you look at how the Ags played on that side of the ball for halves and/or full games all too often this season. And, injuries aside, the head-scratcher for me is the fact that Elko openly stated this off-season on more than one occasion how excited he was about this year's defense even compared to past A&M units he's coached. Definitely something the head man has to be very disappointed in when he looks back on this past season. Outlook for next season? See above. Concerned but also far from deflated or panicking. There really should be a noticeable year one to year two jump for a program under a new regime and also for a ton of individuals who will play key roles next fall. However, help also needs to arrive and if I'm Elko right now, I'm taking a hard look at every position. I know the Ags were without a lot of key figures on defense last night (three starting DL, two corners including your best and your best linebacker) but you also had guys you're planning to depend on next year on both sides playing who struggled mightily to make winning plays. Why do you think the team collapsed after the LSU win? Tough one to answer. I think first and foremost, they took a couple of big hits at South Carolina, not the least of which was their confidence and I believe they weren't the same team physically after that night. Losing Le'Veon Moss proved to a real killer and the Ags had also lost Bisontis a week prior. The interior ground game took such a big hit there and that was so important in terms of sustaining drives and even down near the goal line but also helping Marcel Reed along in his development as a passer. I'm just talking about keeping him out of bad situations. Scooby Williams missing time and being hut was also a big deal because he's the most active dude in that font seven and was beginning to look like a difference-maker. However, I also think it's fair to say that the book was out on the Ags by the time November rolled around. Make Reed and the A&M passing game beat you down the field, sit on early-down runs and run right at the Aggie defense. South Carolina, Auburn and Texas did so with alarming degrees of success. The fact that Elko volunteered last night what was pretty obvious down the stretch was telling, as well. The inability to have the confidence to run very much zone is tough to overcome when playing against offenses with pass-catchers like the Ags saw versus Auburn and Texas in particular. Who is on the next HC short list? Look, I'm as disappointed as all of you are about the way things went after the LSU win but let's be productive with the conversations and stop acting like kids or like this is social media. I don't have the time or patience for it today and I'd also like to see less of this type of **** around here, not more. Can Bateman be gone? I guess this will be the last Bateman one I'll respond to. See above and unless the future ones include something other than "is he or will he be fired" I'll move on to some of the other stuff. Realistically: How many staff changes (specifically) defense are we talking? It's too early to tell. Like I said, I expect Elko to take a brutally honest look at how the season wrapped up. I'm not expecting some sort of overhaul on that side if that's what you're asking. Did the offensive performance tonight help or hurt potential portal additions jumping in the boat going forward? It probably didn't move the needle much either way. The Ags did move the ball and put up points (not enough) but I thought Reed showed nice progress in the passing game and the reality is A&M was a completely unnecessary INT and a short FG miss from putting up 41 points. Missed opportunities in the first half and a dry spell (a couple of ill-timed three and outs) in the second half definitely played a huge role in A&M not winning last night but the offense did produce. It was more like the Auburn game to me, where there was plenty to dissect and second-guess but the end result should have been more than enough points to win. regardless, the Ags need more firepower at the skill spots and need to continue to address that via the portal. Thank you for all y'all do as staff. Appreciate that. The goons like the ones who were run off last night will never win. After the last 4 meaningful games, do you really see much of a culture change? Still had same sloppy penalties/missed tackles/drops etc and seemed to regress as the season went, especially on defense. I did see penalties and missed tackles as ongoing issues but that's more playing clean football than it is culture. I really haven't seen anything at all to make me question the culture Elko has quickly instilled into his program. In a perfect world, with that hurdle cleared this season, the next step is playing cleaner, better football in all phases of the game. It's not guaranteed but we've learned this program isn't getting there without guys doing it the right way in terms of not cheating the work and not buying in. Losing close games doesn't tell you where the culture is, it's more about a team learning what it takes to win by playing winning football with the game on the line. It's part of it for sure, but I think this group and program have a lot further to go in the learning to win department than culture. Serious look at the coaching staff: Which coordinators or other staff do you keep or kick to the curb. They're paid millions of dollars to coach a team to win. Grace period is over. Agree on the paid handsomely and paid to win part of it. I also don't really think they had a grace period with Coach Elko. I don't speculate on who or how many but I do see a lot Klein-related stuff here and on social media and think he did a better job (better, not saying it was elite) than most give him credit for. He has to take the next step next year and will have to bring his talented but still-learning QB with him but the offense has a real chance to make a sizeable jump. Any chance Elko spends some time with Dan Campbell this offseason? His first season in Detroit was obviously much rougher but did have a few similarities as far as not being able to get over the hump… I think you're probably referencing Dan's second year in Detroit. Interestingly enough, I've floated the idea to both coaches and would love to facilitate the two sitting down during the off-season. Any idea why we continue to run into a loaded box? Or for a broader question, what's with the offensive play calling running so hot/cold it seemed. That's a question I really can't answer. Not sure how much of that is straight play-calling or the reason why behind it or how much is freedom given to Reed and the Aggie QBs at the LOS. It's definitely a question worth asking in an honest off-season conversation. Will we ever become a top notch program? Doesn't feel like it at the moment It's felt like it only two or three times since R.C. left, right? And yes, I do think it gets there. Support is at an all-time high in terms of resources and the NIL climate still favors A&M a great deal. And no one wants to hear it but it's year one. Rough ending and some real questions that need to be answered after the way the team finished but that was a solid first season and not only that folks should walk away feeling hopeless after watching. Are you surprised by the end of season collapse and struggling defense? On some levels, no. I was pretty nervous about the road matchups with South Carolina and Auburn because you knew the Ags still weren't operating with much of a margin for error. Obviously Texas was a monster coming into Kyle Field. But, yes, I was surprised by how the defense played during the thee-game SEC skid. I hated seeing that unit flounder last night after giving up seven fist half points but the reality is that was a unit consisting of half of your 2s. It's the other three that surprised me. Was Elko talking directly to Bateman with his post-game comments? I don't think that's his style really. He and Jay have a good relationship and he doesn't have to air him out in the media to get a point across. I think that was a frustrated head coach who hasn't liked what he's seen from the Aggie pass defense most of this season and I'm sure it's parts his assistant coaches, parts his players and also frustration in that he was unable to fix it. USC offense all in the portal. Defense can't come through. Send Bateman packing? Look, that A&M defense was depleted missing three NFL-bound defensive linemen, the most disruptive linebacker in Scooby Williams and then two corners including the team's best cover man (Will Lee). So I went into the game expecting to see the Aggies give ups some plays and, quite possibly north of 30 points. The issue last night wasn't the point total, it was how USC got there. Seven points at the half before we saw a completely inexperienced quarterback who was NOT playing good football and an offense hit very hard by attrition suddenly cut through the Ags like a hot knife through butter. To the tune of 28 second half points and 21 in the fourth quarter, including moving straight down the field with alarming ease for the game-winning score. It wasn't that I expected a lot out of a pretty depleted defense, it's the fact that the Ags were so bad when it mattered most with some important 2025 pieces and several starters out there letting it happen. Somehow, someway, the players needed to step up and get those second-half and certainly the final-drive stop and it's also up to the coaches to figure out how to make that happen. And I know no one wants to hear it but the NFL opt outs and injuries were a big reason for last night's struggles. The problem as I see it is that the Ags struggled mightily in one way or another in each of their last four games down the stretch. South Carolina put up 44 because the Ags couldn't tackle, Auburn's offense produced a season-high in regulation points and marched the field to force OT and Texas ran wild at Kyle Field and controlled the action via the ground and pound.- 2420 replies
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