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  1. I like the first part. On the second part my hangup is with an oft present regulatory problem: regulatory solutions often saddle additional burdens on the conscientious and responsible who aren’t creating the issue, and are insufficiently compellant on the irresponsible who are. Being a dangerous dog owner strongly overlaps with ignoring regulations and ordinances. Many owners and breeders of pitbulls will simply ignore insurance requirements, vet exams, etc. while most owners of Yorkies will dutifully get annual bite radius checks. Parallel to liability insurance laws: responsible drivers will get it without being told to because we don’t want to wreck our lives if we have an accident. Irresponsible ones will ignore the law and don’t have a lot at stake if they do mow someone down. The fun part is that we end up having those uninsured driver costs factored into our insurance anyway, just like homeowners insurance has the cost of other people’s pitbull attacks factored into our. A simpler and easily enforced “you can’t have these dogs” rule is better for dangerous dog owners.
  2. Everything normal heading into 2026!
  3. The crowdsourcing campaigns introduce an element I always forget about. And now, it often seems the cancelee comes out of ahead of the cancelers. I guess my broader point is this: what is the desired and intended effect here of this becoming an ongoing semi-national story? I recognize the person in the video: not smart, no self control, no future orientation, imbalanced. A cloud of chaos follows them and they treat it like weather or geography instead of something they created. This person will say “they made me angry” when pressed on why she just engaged in some completely unacceptable outburst and she will legitimately not understand why that is not sufficient justification and cannot imagine reacting any other way to real or imagined affronts. They exist on or around the margins and it’s not that they DESERVE to be there— it’s simply unavoidable absent external intervention. No one deserves to die by suicide but you will be dead all the same if you jump off a tall building. She wasn’t and never imagined wielding racism as a weapon, for instance by lobbing a fake assault charge which would be truly evil and calculating. She is manifestly not exercising power of any sort because a Cinnabon cashier in 2025 is less powerful than anyone with enough in the bank to buy a Cinnabon. Her purpose was simple: to be as grossly offensive as she could imagine being because she was upset; she succeeded and in the process mainly committed a public act of self-harm. Don’t get me wrong, the customers should have documented it and sent it to ownership and she needed to be rapidly unemployed. But beyond that— what other consequence is warranted and what is remarkable about a marginal person behaving like a marginal and unstable person? I now see that the purpose of this system is to somehow grift off of GiveSendGo, which she couldn’t have done if TMZ tossed the video in the bin as “not news.” It seems like a machine to enable the calculating and purposeful racists to instrumentalize the impulsive and irrational ones.
  4. Well know it isnt real because it’s having sex with us.
  5. The appearance and continuation of domesticated animal breeds is artificial and their extinction is the natural part. It’s like saying three-wheeled ATVs went extinct when manufacturers relented to a consent decree and stopped making them because they were dangerous. Domestic breeds don’t exist if we don’t make them, they are anti-natural.
  6. It should have to go “beep boop beep boop boop” or produce lines of text that say “computing” before producing anything so it’s clear its a robot.
  7. I am! You’re so close to getting it! No dog breed (or type, which is what a pitbull is) would exist without continual active human management and selection for the traits that mark a breed. I am indeed suggesting that active selection for “sitting on laps” or “retrieving birds” or “heeding sheep traits is fine.” And that we shouldn’t allow active selection for the “strong prey aggression, strength, and not letting go after biting,” because it’s harmful and dangerous and there’s not really an upside now that we don’t allow dogfights or catch sports. The UK has recently done basically this with the Bully XL, a pitbull type bred to be even bigger, stronger, and more unpredictable. The pitbull types of today are different from those of earlier generations, mostly because of active selection of undesirable traits by generations of cruel and irresponsible people. Lots of breeds are like this; I love bulldogs but they have to be born via c-section and live short and uncomfortable lives. It’s quite inhumane to keep breeding them and we don’t need to, you can have a goofy, lazy, farty house dog without all the bad parts. The dogs themselves don’t know or care what breed they are. Left to their own devices they’d all have generic yellow-tan dog offspring within a few dog generations. Breed extinction is an anxiety we project onto them that is meaningless.
  8. Pitbulls aren’t a species and they can’t go extinct like a species. Something almost identical to them in every way but tiny bits of genetic code could easily be recreated within a lifetime if it turned out we are wrong and needed them back. Every dog is just canis familiaris. Breeds truly are an artificial construct we made up.
  9. She appears to likely have some kind of real mental disorder. I think I also read that she has a history of substance-related arrests, which is why she’s in her 40s and job options are limited to working entry-level at Cinnabon. The two probably overlap. Clearly Cinnnabon cannot and shouldn’t retain her as employee. It is likely that this episode will knock her out of what was already a very precarious position and will lead to more intense and regular inappropriate outbursts and conflicts with people she encounters, this time from the absolute margins of American society. Strong possibility she will end up both victim and victimizer in more serious crimes, part of the endless churn of anti-social types we are too compassionate to confine, and not compassionate enough to treat and so we just let them do their thing until something goes really wrong or they disappear. Some people are judgment proof and someone unemployable at fast food with a history of substance arrests and recorded racist outbursts just became stigma-proof, there are really no meaningful consequences left or lessons to learn.
  10. We should start with pitbulls and worry about an imaginary future where we’re banning goldens or poodles and bichons later. All of the other dogs you mentioned could also disappear forever with no real ill effects, these are not endangered species occupying an ecological niche, they are domestic animals bred to do things no one really needs anymore, and plenty of other breeds can fill the pet role equally well. It is not an enumerated right to keep certain breeds of animals. There’s really not a reason to tiptoe around this; if Kias randomly blew up on the street, and we live in a world with Hyundais and Toyotas, we wouldn’t try to find ways to let “responsible” Kia owners keep buying them and parking them around town. The urge to constantly reach for the complicated, overlay wonky perfect regulatory solutions at the expense of the clear and implementable good enough solution is the tyranny of process thinking. And the very stupid regularly manage to acquire things that are prohibitively expensive. Sometimes that makes the stupid things they want even more attractive. Good enough solution here is fine.
  11. Tl; Dr: One year old mauled in Manhattan, owner walks away and will face no charges. Pitbulls are an excellent metaphor for so much of our problems: the solution is staring us in the face, has almost no downside, and could be easily done with minimal cruelty. Simply ban breeding, mandate neutering, and destroy any animal that isn’t fixed past a cutoff date and make the owner pay for the procedure. We just can’t do it because a handful of the types of people who cause many other solvable problems think that owning a dangerous animal with no unique counter-purpose is cool. Then a second group that believes that it’s wrong to fix any problem that stupid people enjoy causing. https://nypost.com/2025/12/23/us-news/pit-bull-attacks-baby-on-nyc-street-and-refuses-to-let-go/
  12. Animal trainer: We taught this parrot to talk, it’s really cool! Everyone: Wow, really? That’s amazing. Animal trainer: Well, it can’t really talk. It doesn’t know what it’s saying. It’s really good at listening to things people say and how they talk, then repeating them as discrete sounds that seem like it’s engaging in human conversation. CEOs: When can I put it in charge of my business? Parrot: The government is spying on you through transmitters in your teeth fillings. Your mom told the dentist to put them in there when you were a kid.
  13. Animal trainer: We taught this parrot to talk, it’s really cool! Everyone: Wow, really? That’s amazing. Animal trainer: Well, it can’t really talk. It doesn’t know what it’s saying. It’s really good at listening to things people say and how they talk, then repeating them as discrete sounds that seem like it’s engaging in human conversation. CEOs: When can I put it in charge of my business? Parrot: The government is spying on you through transmitters in your teeth fillings. Your mom told the dentist to put them in there when you were a kid.
  14. I mean damn. We really are just endlessly psyopping ourselves aren’t we.
  15. Same shit with the Brown U. shooter, they outed this Brown Palestinian LGBT faculty member and then it was a Portuguese guy who didn’t get good enough grades twenty years ago.
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