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Fantastic post. Thanks for stating the decision tree so well.
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The author of the piece you cited does. He wants to blame everyone else for his failures. Well, not EVERYONE else. Just…certain people. You know the ones. Those people who got jobs that HE really deserved. Those other people didn’t deserve them. You can tell they don’t. Because they aren’t white men, who are obviously the inherently superior life form. If a white man doesn’t get a job or opportunity, well…we know why.
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“Engaging with them and empathizing with their problems.” So, like I said…tell them comforting lies. I can engage with them. But I can’t empathize. I just can’t. But I can lie and act like I do. I’ll engage with them. And I’ll tell them “gosh, that sucks. I’m really sad for you.” And I won’t mean a fucking word of it. Because all I’ll really be doing is boosting and enabling their grievance and contempt for every “other,” who they RRALLY think is beneath them. You fail to grasp that their grievance is NOT that women and minorities are getting more jobs and opportunities. It’s that they’re getting those things…when we all KNOW that really, they are inferior, and white men are the people who REALLY have “merit.” The best way to figure out if someone practices “merit-based” hiring is if all they hire is white males. Anything else? Well, they’re obviously practicing woke DEI and hiring people who don’t deserve to. Stop cutting these whiny fuckers slack. They’re shitty people who are shit who won’t do shit to actually better themselves and yearn to be as shitty as their parents and grandparents instead of bettering themselves or society. Fuck. Them.
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Kiddos are home. They want all kinds of stuff they can’t get overseas. Shrimp and catfish and grits.
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Each kid flew home separately the past couple days, and they were bitching about to at exact thing, doesn’t matter what airport you’re in. Zero situational awareness.
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Do minorities and women have luxury of indulging them? These “aggrieved” people 1) believe it’s a zero sum game, 2) WANT it to be a zero sum game, and 3) will only accept everyone else losing as sufficient evidence that they are winning again. Yeah, I’m SUPER interested in partnering up with people who will not think they’re getting a fair shake until they see my daughter getting fucked over. To this demographic, “discrimination” is just like everything else: every accusation is a confession. Sure, they’re voters and humans, so engage with them…but do it at arms length. Because right now, the main thing they want to see is discrimination…in their favor.
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I’ve raised that specific concern numerous times. Our society and systems are failing our young men across the board, and alarm bells should be ringing loudly. And at least in my circles, it hasn’t been taboo to discuss. We had a system of secondary and higher education. We opened it fully to women, and encouraged them to participate across the board. And it turns out, women are really good at the very things that helps one succeed within those systems. So, they’re beating men at their own game, at a 60-40 clip. Good for women. But it’s also very bad to leave men behind. A large cadre of bitter dudes is not a good social outcome. However, I also don’t think that young men are willing to do their part to address this systemic issue. INSTEAD, what I see and hear is lazy generalities (minorities stealing our jobs, women are stuck up bitches who won’t have sex with me even though I’m the best Call of Duty player in my friend group, etc). We can’t “solve the problems of young men” until they are willing take SOME modicum of ownership of their situation, and make an actual effort to change it. Nope. Just gonna whine and blame and demand that someone put their finger on the scale to favor them again. Indeed. And it starts at a young age. Our educational system is perfect for little girls, it’s lousy for squirmy little boys. The gap begins in first grade, and just gets worse. Leading to discouraged boys who just fall further behind. But don’t worry, we have a social plan to deal with it: teach little Timmy in second grade that the real reason he’s falling behind is woke DEI.
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Bold words from a grown-ass man with a butt-cut.
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Surrender its humanity, join the whiny white men in blaming minorities for everything wrong in this world down to the crabgrass in their lawns…profit. Seriously. It’s all about indulging in grievance politics, which is a creature of “distract from actual systemic issues by focusing people’s ire on some ‘other’ so a corrupt oligarchy can continue to fuck everyone.” By the way, I agree with playing that messaging game. Lie to them. Tell them the sweet excuses they want to hear: “it’s not your fault that your B- GPA-ass didn’t get a high-paying job. It’s because some black lesbian amputee stole the job that was rightly yours.” Promise that you’ll stop that from happening. Then, just deliver on sound economic policies. Break up some monopolies, protect unions, that sort of shit. But this is America 2025. You won’t get a single vote from anyone until you tell them you hate/resent all the same people that they do. Empathy? Empathy is for suckers. Lies and manipulation are where it’s at.
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Counterpoint: I have a huge and well-known weakness for French gals.
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Oh, I get the point. The point is that opposition (left) messaging is utterly missing these types. I agree, it clearly is. So, we need to speak to whiny babies the way you talk to whiny babies when you want to manipulate them. Tell them the sweet lies they want to hear, and tell them that everything that they find upsetting is actually the fault of someone else. I suggest blaming the Dutch, but I’m willing to workshop it. Sure. But they think they are getting the short end of the stick because OTHER people struggling to make it are maybe not living as shitty lives as they did before. The author doesn’t want advocacy for him. He wants advantages that he thinks he’s entitled to. See below. BINGO BINGO BINGO. They do NOT want equality. They want a return to the bias in their favor. Women are getting hired at a 60% clip because the pool of qualified grads is 60% women (again, I offered my observations from law and trained pastors; the pool of quality grads has a materially lower percentage of white males than it did 30 years ago). If 30% of the quality grads are white males, then the pool of new hires should have a similar percentage. The author doesn’t want that. He wants a return to not just higher percentages from a day when there were more quality white male grads, he wants a return to the inherent advantage that built in bias also gave them. Also a bingo. It comes down to the fact that they don’t want equality, they want the advantage and favorable bias their parents and grandparents had. Should we try to appeal to them to get their votes? Absolutely. Lie and tell them whatever they want to hear, shameless, impossible lies absolutely work. Then go about policies aimed at changing systems as a whole and at weakening oligarchs. Everyone will benefit. But that benefit will probably be equal, and we know that won’t be enough for the whiny titty baby crowd, the bunch of specialest, fragilest snowflakes to ever exist. They will bitch and cry till they get the full suite of biases and advantages in their favor again. How do we know? Because when given ANY power (see this admin), that’s exactly the policy outcome they pursue.
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Empathy is fucking dead. We don’t kill it, but we damn well know what the stench of “death of anything good” smells like. I can’t do it. I just can’t. I cannot make myself feel any empathy or sympathy for a group that has, for all living memory, been the most privileged group in the history of humanity, who are now pissed because they may have lost .000001% of that privilege. Yeah, I’m aware of the strategic point in courting them. That’s why I have long been a proponent of lying to them, telling them the sweet lies they want to hear to get their votes. But I can’t care about them. They and their predecessors have never given 1 billionth of a fuck about anyone else.
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Was running errands most of the day. Got home, turned the game on, 3rd down, 28 seconds left. Wife and daughter both comment “god I hope we get to see their heart ripped out.” 20 seconds later, INT. We all three instantly laughed so hard the neighbors heard. God that was the best timing ever. We saw one play. The one that was the dagger to all aggy hearts at Pyle. Merry Christmas everyone!
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I mean…they might make some real cash setting up a Charlie shooting gallery. There is no bottom, so don’t rule it out.
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[Gets a car to drive him to within a couple of miles of the marathon finish line before the race even starts. Gets out of car and into a runner’s stance.] “Ok! This needs to be a fair race! Everyone just run as fast as you can to the finish line, same as everyone else!” Fucking hell. That this country not only still doesn’t understand the multi-generational holdback caused by institutionalized racism, but now actually bans even talking about it in any educational context? Yeah, we’re going to turn into a shit-flinging civil war, and we fucking deserve all the pain that’s coming our way. Openly discriminate against minorities for 300 years, and still do = “oh well, too bad, pull yourself up by your bootstraps.” Implement programs and efforts to maybe just interview minority candidates/recruit at HBCUs and such = “ZOMG DEI DISCRIMINATION WHITE MEN ARE THE WORST VICTIMS OF DISCRIMINATION EVER!”
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The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread
Brisketexan replied to Horn Dog's topic in Cloak Room
There is no “alternative” in the GQP. Your choices are “racist” or “RINO, GTFO!” Nobody who doesn’t cater to pure white nationalism has any place in the party or among its voters. -
Oh. You think millennials got fucked. Gen Z would like a word. They’re going to get to grow up in a fascist authoritarian oligarchy with little in the way of meaningful jobs or future as late stage capitalism leads to the largest inequality gap in human history as it simultaneously consumes and irrevocably destroys the environment. Boomers destroyed everything. Literally the whole fucking thing. And it pains me that a chunk of Gen X were happy accessories to their crimes. But I’m fucking pissed about this essay. My whole life, white men have lectured all of us about “stop being victims, no more grievance culture, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, discrimination doesn’t happen, if you didn’t get the job/promotion, you just didn’t have the merit, you’re not entitled to anything”…..and now those same white men are playing the other side of that tune as loudly as they can. I repeat, fuck em. Dishing that shit out to everyone else for 300 years was just fine for you, but upon being served a mere demitasse of what they’ve been handing out for centuries, white men crumple to the ground and cry like bitches.
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No, see, “don’t complain, be exceptional” is advice that only applies to minorities when being lectured by white people. “Work harder, bootstraps, quit whining, be exceptional!” Totally cool when society spends generations telling minorities that, totally awful, no good, very bad when anyone tells that to white men.
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What percentage of black men have a dad who is/was a doctor, lawyer, etc? What percentage of white men have a dad who is/was a doctor, lawyer, etc? That’s the systemic advantage. And the gap there remains huge. That factor alone is hugely determinative of a person’s success. Kid of a ditch digger is much less likely to achieve great success than the kid of a professional (and the grandkid, and great grandkid). And generations of history and practice made that gap, it hasn’t come even close to going away. White men continue to ride the wave of the generational advantages of 300 fucking years. Now, that wave is 6 feet instead of 10. Waaaah. Yeah, I know that a bazillion angry white men is bad for society. But…and this is important…fuck em. Fuck their entitled whiny asses. Want something? Fucking earn it. Work HARDER. You know, all the things they tell minorities even today.
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Again, if someone says that about Charlie Kirk, the Trump DOJ would be bringing charges.
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Indeed. Being poor is another layer -- and a big, fat layer -- in the shit sandwich of American life. It's why I'm a huge fan of community colleges, getting first-gen kids through college and such, etc. Yeah, college isn't for everyone, but damn....it opens the door to the professional classes, and not just for the first generation. For FUTURE generations. An influential teacher who got my dad to think of, and then go to college, is a large part of the reason I'm successful. I had a leg-up because I was born to a college-educated father, with a professional degree and license (nothing fancy, petroleum engineer working for the government, but it was stability, and gave me examples and expectations). But back to whiny white guys, by far the biggest factors crushing them are (1) women have entered the work force, and not just in "women's jobs" like teaching and nursing, but in all manner of professional fields, and (2) women are smart and have an aptitude for the very things that make one successful academically and professionally. E.g., women are much less likely to spend formative educational years in their parents' basement playing COD 12 hours a day. Once we allowed women to compete....they started kicking our asses, and it ain't getting any better for those of us equipped with a dingus. As much as there are strong retrograde impulses in society and government right now, that genie is never going back in the bottle. Get used to it, white guys. Want to do better? Then BE better. You know, the meritocracy you love to shout about, the key first step is "have some fucking merit."
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The growth in percentage of "more disadvantaged" among the professional ranks has been slower going, but it IS happening. See my comment about the increasing percentage of minority candidates, and a fair number are not from families that already had "professionals" in them. Not nearly enough, mind you. Overcoming structural income and social inequality issues takes time measured in generations. But also consider that PART of that is hiring more minorities from the get-go, simply because THOSE minorities (the more educated, more privileged ones) often have much stronger connections to a network of more disadvantaged people. STATISTICALLY, a given young black or hispanic lawyer is more likely to know people, know schools, etc. that have a larger population of disadvantaged folks. Both things are true: some things can be done in the short-term, but seeing genuine positive results of not just improvements in race or gender ratios, but seeing improvements that also include lifting up more disadvantaged folks, takes time. BUT, counter....for the longest time, it didn't matter whether you were a poor mexican, or a well-to-do mexican, the firm of Whitey and Whitness in Dallas wasn't gonna hire you. It wasn't the "poor" that shut you out (although that sure as shit didn't help). It was the brown. Or black.
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An I respect your perspective. As you know, I don't and have never hired in that world. I've hired lawyers, pastoral staff, church-related operations executive staff, and such (that is....trained members of "professions"). And with respect to those....I've seen white men getting their butts kicked, and objectively so. Shit, I remember when my wife commented, when she was in seminary and working with her peer group, "I'm gonna tell you, if you need to hire a decent pastor anytime soon, you're gonna hire a woman." Sure enough, of the 8 awards handed out at graduation, 7 went to women (including my wife, cuz she's awesome). I know anecdotes aren't evidence, but from my perspective of hiring professionals, women typically have the strong edge in numbers, and among all genders, the percentage of quality minority candidates continues to climb.
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Except....we both noted that they are NOT mainly the same. While white men are still disproportionately represented in the younger ranks, women are beginning to stomp them in both quantity and quality. Again, give me a pool of 10 randomly selected high-quality candidates with less than 4 years of practice, probably 7 outta 10 are going to be female. Minorities are still trailing in representation, but they are making gains. Bottom line, 30 years ago, 80% of the incoming class of high-quality attorneys would be white males. Today? Maybe 40%. That's a precipitous decline.....but white males are STILL slightly overrepresented compared to population.
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