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Brisketexan

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  1. 1 minute ago, Enchubben said:

    The supposed party that was harmed from this, the Ukrainian president, has stated multiple times that there was no quid pro quo and that the aid being tied up had nothing to do with an investigation into the Biden’s.

    Does his testimony count?

    I dunno.  Jurors weigh credibility.  What do you think of the statements of someone who was and remains under duress and beholden to the person asking them to deny that the person asked them to do something illegal?  Put in simple terms...is it more or less likely that the president of Ukraine, a country that is very dependent on the goodwill of the US and its current administration, said exactly what the POTUS wanted him to say?

    "Hey, that gal you thought I was raping because I had a gun to her head, I asked her to tell you what was up, and she said it was all totally consensual"....is a defense that has never, ever worked.  But apparently, a jury full of Trumpkins would buy it as "CASE CLOSED" proof, and acquit the dude.

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  2. 1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

    I confuse myself with my optimism sometimes, though.

    You shouldn't do that.

    Do the opposite.  His behavior to the extreme now normalizes it at all levels of magnitude.  What is happening now is the future order of things.

    Ledge, dude.  That's the only rational place to be these days.

  3. Just now, BNB said:

    I think he should have been censured for it, the guy is an idiot, but I don't think he should be impeached for it.  I don't think it will happen often that someone running against the president has a possible corruption case with another country because he made statements about getting another countries official fired, and his sons company was being investigated by him.

    I think I am on the majority side of it.

    Dems should have just censured him, then moved onto passing bills.  All the public sees is Dems constantly attacking him and trying to impeach him, while little else is being done to improve our country.

    Dems have passed hundreds of bills.  On issues of great import to the American people.  They are sitting on McConnell's desk.

    You are gaslighting and ignoring facts -- the desire was that Ukraine ANNOUNCE an investigation.  That's solely a political move for advantage in an election.

    So, you're embedding lies at a Trumpian rate.  Of course you will support him -- he's you.

  4. Just now, BNB said:

    So you Dems have one or 2 people stating they presumed Trump wanted quid pro quo, nothing evident. 

    GOP world: where testimony isn't evidence.

    Fascinating.  Truly fascinating.

    Also, gaslighting -- no need for a quid pro quo.  All that's necessary is the solicitation of a benefit from a foreign power.  He asked for Ukraine to ANNOUNCE an investigation. That's it, that's all we need to know.

    Gaslighting.  No understanding of what evidence is.  This is where the Trumpkin party is.  We are the Republic of Stupid.

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  5. 14 hours ago, Anastasis said:

    Intersection of politics with 4th amendment and surveillance state abuses. Pet issues.

    Groovy.  I agree.  Put a pin in it.

    I mean, I may have lots of problems with sweetheart deals with defense contractors, and internal politics figuring in to promoting military officers, and flaws in conmbat training programs, etc.....but when the fucking Zeros are hitting us at Pearl, I say we focus on throwing everything we've got at the existential threat, and dealing with my pet issues (that are relevant to the overall situation) later.

    We have a currently sitting administration that is an organized criminal enterprise that has engaged in naked corruption, actively solicited the assistance of foreign powers in connection with our elections and continues to do so.  And will continue to do so, and even worse, every fucking day.  

    Aim at the Zeros and Kates and Vals.....we'll deal with our process problems after the bombs stop falling.  Doing otherwise makes you look like an idiot standing on the deck of the Arizona saying "see, we should have been better trained!  And we should have competent officers who wouldn't let us get caught with our pants down!"....as the fucking bombs are going off all around us.

  6. 3 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    So we're just going to start paying them now? Is that how we tax them less than nothing?

    Duh, yes, you stupid libtard.  See, if we take tax dollars from folks like you and me, and give them to corporations, they'll use them to create jobs and Make America Great, so really, it's the patriotic thing to do - give as much money as possible to corporations.  Basic economics, libtard.

  7. Different choices for different occasions.

    For cheap drunk eats, and a bite of nostalgia for my poor student days?  Totinos for sure.

    For a quick dinner with the family when I've worked late?  Various thin crust options -- HEB's, Randall's, Costco's, all are good.

    For a healthier option?  The cauliflower crust ones are actually pretty good.

    For a really good, restaurant tasting option?  The Central Market brand choices are really good.

  8. 1 minute ago, Loco said:

    It's traitor season

    Cool.  I've still got all my tags.

    [FTR, I'm making a riff on the old Texas hunting season joke, not actually threatening to shoot, tag, and display on my wall a bunch of traitors.  Plus, it would be really hard to get the mount right -- tough to tell their head from their ass.]

  9. 1 hour ago, Eastwood said:

    And you certainly don't ask a foreign government to do the investigating. You let them know that you want to investigate and ask them (in most cases tell them) to cooperate with the FBI, who will be on their way shortly.

    Stop.  Stop using their gaslighting characterization.

    The important fact is the one that the GOP repeatedly ignores and mischaracterizes -- Trump asked Ukraine to ANNOUNCE an investigation.  Ukraine making a public statement was a specific ask.  And is a specific crime.  And is specifically ignored and mischaracterized by the gaslighting GOP.

    Don't repeat their lies.  Fuck them up the ass with their lies.*

    * The problem is, the platoon of closeted types in the GOP will enjoy that.

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  10. And yet lots of curious silence when I was pointing out the many problematic points related specifically to the FISA problems in this situation. The use of unverified political opposition research to bolster a surveillance warrant in a fraught political context. Don’t worry. I will rehash those exchanges at some point. 

    Because you’re focusing on a pet issue that’s eclipsed by the existential threat. Forest, trees, etc. and it makes you look asinine.
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  11. Not really my job to educate you. I quoted the of summary related to the process as it relates to the page application. Hopefully wildcat or somebody else will chime to discuss the findings in a substantive way. 

    1) the plight of the 4th amendment, particularly as it relates to warrants, and even more particularly as it relates to the FISA mechanism, is well-trod ground. That seems to be the biggest negative takeaway from this

    2) ummm...everything else. Everything else about the report tells us that it was as legit investigation, and we are in a shitload of trouble.

    Put a pin in point 1. It’s important. And we need to deal with it. AFTER we deal with the existential threat that’s the subject of point 2. Always deal with the existential threat first.
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