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Posts posted by Brisketexan
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The flour tortilla and ground beef is textbook, white-people enchiladas. And, as a white person who, under most circumstances would like to rise above his people's culinary deficiencies, I'll admit a weakness for these two components of WPE. However, that weakness presumes that there is about a gallon of canned enchilada sauce dumped over them, along with an entire block of that Old San Francisco Steakhouse cheese shredded over the top. Is your wife's family from the Midwest by chance?
Her mom was from Beaumont. But her mom was from Corsicana, so…yeah, lotta bland rural white people food. -
Because the world was flat until it wasn’t. The universe revolved around earth until it didn’t. It was known until we knew better.Â
And for centuries, angels and demons were among us, all the time.
Humans have interpreted observations and feelings and beliefs as something fantastical, when the thing wasn’t real at all or was explainable by science.
I don’t know why this upsets you so. We have high standards of proof for extraordinary claims. None of us are saying it’s not possible. We’re saying it’s not probable based on current evidence.
And yes, there are usually lots of holes in every story. No, I’m not going to spend the next 500 hours of my life doing the exercise with every encounter you want to point me to. I picked one - the Zimbabwe school. I explained exactly why it doesn’t make sense, using pretty basic deductive reasoning.-
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And I’m asking you to quantify thousands of people seeing extraordinary things. I’m giving explicit examples of encounters that cannot be just explained away. At what point does eye witness and  whistleblower testimony become enough?
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And I’m asking you to quantify thousands of people seeing extraordinary things. I’m giving explicit examples of encounters that cannot be just explained away. At what point does eye witness and  whistleblower testimony become enough?
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Gimme millions or hundreds of thousands simultaneously seeing something clearly alien. With clear video. Then we’d be staring to get there. But honestly, it’s still going to be actual physical evidence. Metal. Bodies. That’s what it takes.
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Part of the issue is the continued misrepresentations on the pro-UFO side. I don't think there is a single person in this thread that has refused to acknowledge that all of the stories / evidence you bring up could be aliens. I haven't seen a single "Definitely not aliens". What I have seen is a lot of skepticism, a lot of "there could be other reasons", a lot of "I don't think this is the case because X/Y/Z". I see questions of what evidence would be accepted, and then handwaving when that evidence is proposed but not produced.
For those who claim we are no fun at parties, I see a hell of a lot more rigid thinking and dogma (and anger) behind alien believers than I do from skeptics.
This. I didn’t say that these things aren’t possible. I said they aren’t proven or even rising to the level of probable. And I stand by that. It’s sound reasoning. -
1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:
These people couldn’t get Jesus Christ elected night-soil  collector without Republican help.Â
To be fair, nobody would hate and actively campaign against the actual Jesus Christ than Republicans. Jesus Christ is 100% unelectable. And not just because he's.....(((you know))).
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This is definitely NOT something I cooked lately. Instead, it's something my wife cooked lately.
Her beloved, late mother made quite a few "white people" recipes. For example, she made salmon croquettes with canned salmon and a cornflake crust (and god help me....I liked them. A couple of those with ketchup, damn I liked em). Another of her recipes, which my wife loved, is an enchilada recipe.
It uses flour tortillas instead of corn. The filling is ground beef, chopped black olives, Monterrey jack cheese, a little salt and pepper, and a few tablespoons of gebhart enchilada sauce. Then you roll them, and top with....hardly any enchilada sauce, and a sprinkle of cheese. I have found that they are....fine....if I am allowed to spoon another half cup of enchilada sauce over my serving.
Here is the finished pan from last night. She had actually prepped them, and left them for me to put in the oven when I got home, as she was on a client call. Her instructions EXPRESSLY SAID "do not mess with them or change them, this is how I want them," because she correctly knew that I would look at them and say "they need more sauce." Because....they needed more sauce.
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I love my wife. And she actually likes good food, and my cooking. But sometimes her inner white girl comes roaring out, and god help me....-
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1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:
The bolded part is one of the theories out there. It’s not necessarily “speed” it’s compressing distance. The interstellar definition bc I’m not smart enough to explain it via text on a message board.Â
ÂOh, I get that. But it's not even a theory. Shit, it's not even a hypothesis. At this point, it's only a "mcguffin" - a plot device necessary to get us to the main show (aliens visiting earth). Shit, we see it in use in multiple variations in sci-fi movies and such ("warp drive," "folding space" in Dune, etc.)
Yes, something like that would pretty much have to exist if we're being visited by aliens. But we have no evidence something like that exists.
And I looked up the Ariel School incident. The report is that aliens visited some school kids and telepathically gave them some sort of environmental warning (we're polluting the planet, that's bad, etc.). Ok. So here's the thing. Work backwards from the supposed purpose of the contact: to communicate that humans are causing environmental harm to the planet, presumably with the goal of getting us to change our ways.
If that is the goal....how in the blue fuck does visiting a random small school in Zimbabwe, and telling a handful of kids, advance that goal and fulfill the mission? Imagine that you are a superior alien race, and you observe that the earth is polluted, and you want to impress upon humans that they should stop doing so. Wouldn't you observe our transmissions and media to figure out to WHOM you should communicate that message so it would be effective? Wouldn't you develop a cogent, detailed message, which also offered solutions (simple things like "stop burning hydrocarbons, use solar energy instead, here's how you can do so efficiently")?
If it were me and I was the alien commander, I'd interrupt global braodcasts (TV, radio), and broadcast my own message, with images and voice/text explaining things. Millions upon millions would see Alien Overload Brisketexan's message showing how bad pollution is, how solar energy can fix it, and even my formula for how to build cheap solar panels, etc. You can't ignore or debate something that millions of people see on TV (and surely is recorded somewhere as well). Hell, I might even say "and tune in tomorrow at 7:00, when I share with you some delicious recipes for soy-based foods!" And then I broadcast again the next day. There. Mission accomplished.
It's logical holes that you can drive a truck through that I just don't get. IF aliens want to communicate with humans (and many of these stories involve just that -- aliens purportedly communicating with humans to share a specific message, with the implied goal of having us HEAR that message and follow it)....then they are fucking TERRIBLE at it. Which is hard to believe: you've developed a complex society and technology that allows you to cross the universe.....but you can't figure out how to send an effective message to a planet that communicates by radio waves?
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Huh. We ordered the camo hats (both in the initial run and in the follow-up run), and each arrived about when expected.
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3 hours ago, Pancho said:
BUT I HAD TO VOTE MULTIPLE TIMES TO COUNTERACT ALL OF THE DEMONCRATS' VOTER FRAUD! THEY'RE THE GUILTY ONES!
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Just now, 956 Worldwide said:
There is a probability tree that begins to be pretty daunting.Â
Â1. Probability of intelligent life evolving.
2. Probability of intelligent life turning skyward.
3. Probability of intelligent life doing so at the same time intelligent life has evolved on earth.
4. Probability of intelligent life existing within their own technological capabilities while intelligent life exists on earth.
5. Probability of detecting or accidentally bumping into earth.Â
ÂI can’t classify those numbers and neither can anyone else, but it’s for sure a big number.Â
ÂWhere I depart with the believer is simple.  Reach for the terrestrial explanation(s) first.  If all terrestrial explanations must be ruled out, then let’s talk.  I have yet to encounter a case that meets that standard.Â
Items 1 and 2 are where my "there are 200 billion trillion stars" thought tell me "okay, those two seem probable, somewhere in the ENTIRE universe." But then the time and distance things have me skid to a stop on items 3 to 5. Â
Even if a species developed the ability to travel about its local area in its home galaxy.....we'd still never encounter each other. Shit, species that develop on EARTH in isolated environments never encountered each other (until man figured out how to travel globally and carry creatures from one place to another). Tigers and jaguars occupy pretty similar niches and cover large territories.....but they were never going to encounter each other, because there are oceans between them. Maybe there's a spacefaring species in a galaxy that is 2 billion light years away. Cool. Unless they have figured out how not just to travel faster than light, but how to compress all distances so that distance is meaningless, we will never bump into each other.
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1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:
UFO sightings are an Anglosphere obsession.
Maybe that's because the acronym just looks silly in spanish -- "OVNI."
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17 minutes ago, The Dog said:
One caveat - as a white male, I'd argue this is still the case. It's still very much a white man's world.
What's been happening is the right has used things like affirmative action and DEI as red herrings to make white men think that they are going to be excluded or replaced, when in reality it's just about leveling a playing field that even with those is heavily tilted in their favor.
No disagreement. But still, when for centuries, you've had a 100 yard head start in the race, and now you only have a 50 yard head start....and because you had the 100 yard head start you never bothered to learn to run that fast because you didn't need to, the head start gave you all the advantage you needed....well, loss of a huge advantage into a smaller advantage can feel like a DISadvantage.
Young white men still have every chance to succeed -- they even have built in advantages. But they have to actually fucking work for it now because there's competition. We gotta figure out how to get them off their asses to compete.
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1 minute ago, Blotto said:
If your "pastor" has this haircut....
you are DEFINITELY being fleeced.your kids are getting diddled.ÂOnly your male kids.
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14 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:
This is the only reason I am going to again bring up that it is faith, not reasoning or math, that leads you to believe that intelligent, spacefaring life exists in the world.
I don't disagree with you. I used the word "believe" for a reason -- I don't think the burden of proof has been cleared on "spacefaring life exists somewhere in the universe." There is no evidence/proof. My HYPOTHESIS is that I think the numbers of stars, and what we have learned about the conditions for life to form, mean that it's quite likely that it exists. But I freely admit that's at best an informed hypothesis based on woefully incomplete data and ZERO actual proof. I THINK that there probably is....but I also THOUGHT that Ryan Leaf would be a much more successful NFL QB than Peyton Manning on draft day.
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3 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:3rd world countries don’t have the tech to track these UAP that crash imo.
It doesn't take tech to track something going "boom" into the ground. Roswell - if it was an alien crash - didn't require tech. A rancher found debris. If a craft smashed into the ground in Uganda, and it wasn't a completely remote area, locals would see/hear it, and/or come across the crash site at some point. Maybe we (the US) could invade a foreign country and be on a crash site in 12 hours. But even in remote areas, most people have camera phones and internet access. I would expect that if there is a crash in Uganda, old Dembe would record a video of the smoking hulk and the dead aliens, and send that TikTok out within minutes. It's the same reason that I knew that the story of (no CR) "lines of illegals registering to vote outside the DMV in Weatherford" was bullshit - if it was true, the Karen who reported it would have shot a 30 second video from the parking lot, and we'd have all seen it. Lack of crowdsourced video proof of crashes and bodies and such raises my doubts significantly.
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6 minutes ago, Js1 said:
Racoons. Coyotes. What wildlife do you not have beef with?Â
Well, our local deer are on our shitlist, too. One of them was camped out in our storage area downstairs and nearly took out my wife when she went down to pull out Halloween decorations. She had to dive outta the way to keep from getting trampled/gored by a buck.
And the fucking squirrels raid our camera bird feeder on the regular (can't set it up in a way to keep them out).
And the stupid Carolina Wren who keeps nesting in the wreath on our front door even though I built him a great nesting box right next to it (he's used it before, but NOW it's not good enough for him).
I GOTTA LOTTA PROBLEMS WITH YOU CRITTERS.
Our ringtails are nice, though. Very polite, quiet, unobtrusive. See them at night sometimes, they keep to themselves and don't make a mess. We also like our other birds -- got some cardinals, painted buntings, chickadees, goldfinches. They're great. The frogs chirping down at the creek each night are nice, too.
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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:
I assume he means race and gender pairing.Â
I've found that "mixed race" and "female" go together very well, like a cabernet and good steak.
Wait, is that not the kind of race and gender pairing you were talking about? Because I was having some "Vanessa Williams and a ribeye" ideas that were quite nice.
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4 minutes ago, The Dog said:White dudes for Harris organizer.
I’ve seen a lot of questions about why white men—especially young white men—seem so angry, distrustful of the Democratic Party, or drawn to MAGA-ism. I've been studying this issue for awhile now and I wanted to share some thoughts. If we want to make inroads with white dudes, we need to understand what’s happening.
First, economic opportunities are shrinking. Young men are struggling with stagnant wages and fewer job prospects, making it harder for them to gain independence, start families, or even feel secure in adulthood. That instability makes many susceptible to the MAGA whirlpool.
Second, there’s a major education gap. Fewer men are graduating from college compared to women, which has serious consequences for their long-term economic and social stability. Kamala Harris is doing well with educated white men, but not with those who didn’t finish college. That difference impacts their prospects and feeds into larger societal issues, which is why we need to make it a lot easier for people to go to college without racking up debt.
Third, we’re facing a mental health and social isolation crisis. Young men are lonelier and struggling with mental health issues at higher rates, partly fueled by social media and the erosion of traditional community institutions (churches, men’s groups, etc.). White men in America are four times more likely to commit suicide than any other group. This is a national crisis, and we’re barely talking about it.
Fourth, there’s an identity crisis. Gender roles and societal expectations are shifting (which is a good thing!), and young men are left wondering where they fit in. Without positive role models, many gravitate toward toxic figures like Donald Trump, because at least someone is speaking to their frustrations—however inartfully (which is being generous). Democrats haven’t done enough to offer better alternatives, though I think we’re starting to, with people like Tim Walz, Pete Buttigieg, and Doug Emhoff stepping up as strong role models.
Fifth, forming relationships—especially romantic ones—has become harder. Economic pressures and the rise of online dating have created new dynamics that are disincentivizing young men (and women, for that matter) from building meaningful connections. This only adds to their sense of isolation and fuels resentment, particularly toward women and those who are economically better off.
Lastly, there's a deep cynicism and lack of trust in institutions. Many young men no longer believe the American Dream is for them, or that they have a place in a society that’s rapidly changing. The old American mythology is crumbling around them, and with it goes their belief in a stable future. That loss of trust is driving them toward more extreme solutions and making it harder for them to feel invested in collective progress.
All of these factors—along with others I haven’t mentioned—are creating a perfect storm of resentment and frustration among young white men. But these issues are real and addressable. The problem is, for too long, Democrats have retreated from engaging in spaces where these men are, leaving them to only hear from one side.
That’s why I’ve been pushing for @KamalaHarris to go on Joe Rogan and praising @PeteButtigieg for going on Fox News. We need to enter these spaces and have real conversations about the issues white men are facing. Will it win all of them over? No. But if we can win over even a small fraction, it makes it much harder for Trump and MAGAism to win nationally.
We can’t keep acting like white men don’t have real issues. Everyone is suffering from something, and everyone deserves to have that suffering addressed by their government. If we address these issues with the same seriousness we give to other communities, we won’t win them all—but we don’t have to. We’re building a multicultural coalition to move this country forward, but we can’t ignore the real challenges young white men are facing.
He's not wrong. Really, he's not wrong about any of it. Except...he doesn't get into the "how and why" these things came about. Here's the rest of the story:
Young white men had it easy in terms of higher education, social dynamics, male roles in society and work, romantic relationships, etc.....because for GENERATIONS (really, all of western history), the deck was stacked IN THEIR FAVOR in all of those respects.Â
It was easier for Willy Whiteguy to get into a decent university because.....no/few minorities, and no/few women were competing for admission slots.
It was easier to participate in social institutions because they were almost all built for and run/filled with almost exclusively....white men. The Elks Lodge, fraternities, the local church Board of Elders, all of it....99% white guys.
Nice cushy job in a downtown office, or at a good factory? Again....much easier to get because they were filled 99% by white guys, no real competition from minorities or women for those jobs. Â
Romantic relationships? When women didn't have any real prospects for a safe, stable, secure (including financial security) future without a man to provide for them, men held all the cards. And again, the highest-value cards (remember the good education and all those good jobs) were held by white guys. If Pretty Paula wanted a nice house and decent food and a good lifestyle, she needed to marry a Willy Whiteguy, or she was hosed. Today....Pretty Paula beat out Willy Whiteguy for the latest promotion. She has a nice townhome, eats well, and has a nice life....she doesn't need Willy Whiteguy for any of that. Sure, she still might like a sexually compatible companion whose company she finds pleasing, but Whining Willy Whiteguy isn't doing great in that respect -- he sits at home, plays video games, has little ambition, and bitches about the fact that women who look like supermodels (the only women he thinks have any value) won't fuck him, and it must be someone else's fault.
We've failed young men because we haven't pounded into their heads "society isn't just going to hand you this shit anymore, you have to go out there and earn it." And you're goddamned right I put a lot of that on the heads of loser young men who don't have the ambition or balls to get up out of the gaming chair and improve themselves. But I also put some of that on the rest of society, because we indeed have failed young men. When you take away an expected pathway (for all the right reasons -- none of this was to "punish" young white men, but simply to allow everyone else onto the field to compete as well) without offering a well-defined alternative pathway, people end up lost. Shut down the factory in town where everyone works, without providing an alternative, training for a different field, etc., the former factory workers are 1) fucked and 2) pissed. Metaphorically, we've done some of that, and we haven't figured out how to equip our young men for the new paradigm. We really need to do that.
On the bright side, for young men who DO have their shit together, they're in high cotton. My son has talked about it (and he's already seen guys descend into the Andrew Tate world, bitter and angry, with little educational/professional/romantic success). He says "look, I'm smart enough, ambitious with a good work ethic, I'm decent looking and know how to dress and not look like a bum, and I can engage with women as equals and not treat them like they should be my property....I'm doing great." And he is. I'm sure he'd have done well under the old paradigm as well, but employers still want to hire men. Women still want male romantic partners. They just want winners, not losers. And has his peers fall away and become embittered losers, he looks better and better.
But for all of our sake, that shouldn't be how things go. His loser peers need to catch up, because society being stuck with a huge clump of underperforming, angry and bitter young men isn't good for anyone.
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3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:
If people are open to believing in a higher power but not aliens, or vice versa, I find that really odd.Â
Well, there's a bit about "faith" in there that's important. If you believe in a higher power, but you admit that your basis is "faith," and not "I believe in God because of empirical evidence and proof," I respect that honest conclusion. Because it includes the understanding that faith is a belief in something DESPITE the lack of proof.
Seriously, I was thinking about this thread and the "doubting Thomas" verses in the Book of John just this morning, because when it comes to aliens, I am definitely a Doubting Thomas:
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24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
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Those verses are a great explanation of the difference between a conclusion reached on faith ("blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed") and those reached by evidence-based reasoning ("Because you have seen me, you have believed"). The other apostles -- who were Thomas's friends, and who he trusted -- TOLD him that they'd seen Jesus after his death. But their testimony was not enough. He needed objective, physical evidence. As do I, on this most extraordinary of subjects.
In summary, I don't think that believing one thing as a matter of faith, but not believing another thing because of lack of evidence is necessarily irreconcilable. You just have to be honest with yourself and others if you're reaching your conclusion based on faith, or on reasoning. And, you shouldn't be angry or annoyed with others if they don't share your faith. You CAN get annoyed with others when they do not apply evidence-based reasoning.
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1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:
I would rather have 100 dudes playing girl sports and 1,000 soldiers get free transgender surgery than have one more incel shoot up a school.
But....but....the heavily armed incels and the shattered bodies of kids sprawled out in gallons and gallons of their blood IS WHAT TELLS YOU THE MAGA IS WORKING! WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO MAGA?????
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1 hour ago, Pancho said:
I’m being sincere when I ask this—White men, what happened to you? Who hurt y’all?
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Also....why doesn't he conduct the "social experiments" of 1) joining a construction work crew of illegal immigrants, or 2) being a black guy driving through a nice white neighborhood in a low-end car? Hmmmm....I wonder why he doesn't.....
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7 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:
No one worships the Sun anymore. Except maybe those people who tan their buttholes to increase their Chakra or whatever.Â
So.....maybe I just think it looks better with a nice tan. Didja ever think of that, smart guy?
5 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:AND.....I hope UFO's are real.....
Weird way to tell us you're hoping for some butt stuff, but you do you. We're in the nest in the trust tree around here.
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2 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:
yep, as soon as this became a national story he was a goner.
The hell of it is, the Texas legislature is actually taking up a junk science bill, to address cases and convictions in exactly this kind of case. As in, even our shitty, dysfunctional Texas Lege can still, out of simple inertia, consider some things that make sense.
But justice, mercy, and truth? Those values are diametrically opposed to the MAGA code. Cruelty, injustice, lies, and the raw exercise of power are their gods, and they worship those gods with masturbatory fervor.
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"12 Million Pounds of Meat" was the weirdest Talking Heads album.
"it's time for hunters to leave the NRA"
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Poor Queso.