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C'mon man, you know that unless its Swimming, Water Polo, Rugby or Crew, Cal has no shot. Even if they were in a League with UCSD, Panhandle State, Slippery Rock and Michigan Tech, they'd find a way to fuck it up much more likely

meh, I think everyone recognizes that 2036 is irrelevant at this point. By 2030 all of this will be going on again and things will settle out. Cal and Furd have zero shot at staying with the cool kids if they don't do this. ACC gives them a 5-10% chance if they get their shit together and lean into their donor pool (a big ask and believe it when you see it). Cal will get UCLA couch change money for at least a little while which will make up some of the gap but their leadership fucked them into this corner

or maybe all sports. Got it!

fuhbaw and bball only it would appear. makes sense

I was being facetious re: the fanfic. And agree about the donor subsidies... those 3 schools have deep deep pockets if they can figure out how to access them.

I mean...SMU comes in for free for x years and Cal/Furd come in at 60-70% shares. That's $50Mish added to the pool of other schools. Do they go uneven to shut Clemson and FSU up? Or is it an even split for an extra $3-4M a year each? Travel is negligible except for the new schools...1 trip out west for football every other year and same presumably for bball (maybe once is year) is negligible. And Apple is definitely hovering, do they sign an auxiliary deal for another $1-2M per school for filler games (or maybe more)? I dunno. Shit is blowing up in 5 years anyway, so...

More Cal fanfic.

That he is afraid of losing a recruiting edge? At least we can non sarcastically say "afraid to compete" for once

you forgot the discussion on the FUCKING CHEESE

Lulz, this got posted on a Cal board "ACC insider here: the NC schools flipped. You're in with stanford. Just be aware what an awful mistake you've made. The acc has a contract with ESPN with a composition clause that allows ESPN to renegotiate payouts with schools, but not the acc to negotiate for more money. FSU and Clemson are going to slice the throat of the ACC sometime in the next year. ESPN will slash the payout to the bone after Clemson and FSU leave and the ACC will crumble if 8 schools find landing spots.Also, prepare to get absolutely hosed on every single call in every single sport whenever you play a school from tobacco road. Pac 12 refs are like little children compared to the game rigging masters at work in the ACC.That being said,welcome aboard."

Tuesday was the day Cal insiders were told to look for a potential vote... we'll see

Rugby is self funded and actually makes a small profit. But its a big Title IX issue. Would think track, baseball, gymnastics (M&W), lacrosse and field hockey are the most likely candidates

dunno if this is the deal structure (could be?) but the Cal side is feeling pretty optimistic that a move to the ACC is happening with 'Furd and while they wont get a full share, its more than 50% and would eventually scale to full partnership. Would be for most sports but Cal would also be looking to axe a number of programs, mostly men's in all likelihood. 30 sports currently so 6-ish getting chopped would be logical. We'll see, negotiations are ongoing but UNC/NCState sound like they are close to flipping their vote.

UC Regents re-affirmed that it'll be "something" but its unclear what the number is.

a couple different sources suggest that donors have stepped up and committed the money if needed. The alarm bells have (apparently) finally been recognized and the impact of the AD failing would be catastrophic far beyond just "no more football." I'm also in the skeptical camp re: that level of engagement but there is definitely money available if they can tap into it. That was always the issue.

sounds like Cal, Furd and SMU would take $0 TV for a certain number of years and it might be for football only, not other sports (if bball is included seems murky). That's $90Mish that can be redistributed to the other 15 teams. I suspect it would be uneven distro to keep Clemson, FSU and possibly UNC happy. Buys them time til the next realignment Armageddon in 2030 I suppose

if a vote happens tomorrow, and there is a 12pm meeting scheduled, Cal/Furd are going to the ACC. Cal peeps, without saying "its happening", seem optimistic. Put in a Roach 4 CB for Cal/Furd to the ACC! Ok, maybe a Roach 3 CB

game changer. It's-Its are fucking delicious

Roachian update from Wilner. He might as well put a 4 confidence CB pick in

As they should be

yeah, its not dead yet apparently. ND, Cal, Furd all focused on swaying UNC is the backchannel rumor I'm hearing from the West Coast. Since FSU and Clemson didn't bolt, status quo opens the door again. We'll see. The rest of this week will be interesting.

I think a lot of people on here are thinking logically from a competitive perspective but not from a TV/ad money perspective. If the goal is an NFL lite feeder league which generates massive revenues through ads (which I think it is), they don't care about the interest among fans outside of the ones in the final "league" which is why they want the big brands. They're going to want to invest heavily in those final 24/40/48 teams whatever it is and make it an NFL like spectacle. All the best HS players will attend these schools and they can market it all and generate massive profits from televising the circus. Some "good teams" will fail in this model...that's just encouragement to reinvest their money back into the program to make it better so they can earn the prizes that the "winners" will no doubt receive. And on and on. The schools not "in" will be forced to de-escalate the arms race and will settle back into the G5/FCS shadows which will ripple effect their ADs and less revenue will be generated. I believe this is approximately what the networks want to drive towards, NFL Lite. The logic of 8 geographically based conferences of 8 teams each (or 4 of 16 with 2 divisions) is makes sense from a competitive standpoint. It feeds into a perfect playoff systems and maintains interest nationally. Not as much money though...

Cal/Furd are still talking to the Big18 also. Cheaper rate than UO/UW. Next week will be interesting...

Long term play… pffft. I think this Fox deal for 6 years is the deal before the deal. 40-48 split away in 2030 to play big boy football. The rest fall away to G5 irrelevance. Got to be in one of the remaining 4 conferences and prove you belong over the next 6 years. The Vandys, Northwesterns, Indianas, etc will drop out in 2030 IMO

Some interesting info/rumors in there