ABSR

- Katarina Antoinettesky

Putin’s just upset at how poorly the hero in JK Rowling’s books, Voldemort, was treated and vilified.

I agree, and as long as they are willing to fight I think we should support them to get back every inch of territory including Crimea if that is what they want and are willing to do....But this is Putin/Russia's off ramp to the immediate cluster they created. Pull back, build defenses, declare victory.

This was the off ramp for Putin I thought they would/could take. Everything was a diversion to the goal of attacking and reducing the "Nazi" presence in Ukraine, and to liberate the "Russian" people in Donbas (Donetsk and Luhansk). Needed the "appearance" of a bigger invasion to accomplish this. Pull back and try and fortify those areas/borders. Then borrow our "Mission Accomplished" banner. After this they have their allies/supporters slowly try to remove the sanctions and economic restrictions to help stop the suffering of the Russian people.

Only team to never make a World Series. AND Seattle is home of a REAL 12th man. So good fit.

Much better video of the ship in which you can see secondary explosions and it sinking at the pier. In the foreground it looks to be a warship which I can't tell if it has any damage, but you do see a projectile land in the water beside it as it is trying to get underway quickly and get out to sea. Raises the question if the ship damage was artillery or sabotage. Then later you can see a second ship trying to get underway (3rd ship) between the first ship trying to leave and the sea wall. This third ship is clearly also on fire. I think this third ship may be a cargo/transport ship, but hard to tell with the smoke. I wanted to see if the two underway ships collided as they tried to get away from port as that looked like it was going to happen, but my guess is the ship on fire had to come to a stop as the first ship (Warship?) trying to leave was not going to do so, but the video stopped prior to this.

The only off ramp I see is for him to declare victory. He says he has crushed the Ukrainian Nazi threat and He pulls back into a controlling position of the Donbas and Luhansk territories which he says need Russian protection (basically annexes them). He has to pull back into Crimea as well as he can't control beyond that territory. He also strategically moves out of the other regions as they were needed to distract Ukraine from his only true goals but he never intended to conquer Ukraine. So"Mission Accomplished" against the Nazi's and freeing the Russian people in Donbas and Luhansk! Then he digs in and works on defending those borders he created. Next is to let his sympathizers try and weasel Russia's way back into the world economy.

Fixed it.

I like that they left room to add more names.

Fixed it for Surly.

Put one back a little further East NE

Hans Gruber

If he drank Pepsi he deserved to be beaten.

Kind of agree. Engine loss or many other issues at least allows for limited gliding. A catastrophic loss to something critical to flight control would lead to spinning, tumbling or non-standard flight movements. The video looked like the aircraft had stable flight but someone was flying it into the ground.

LSU actually, closely followed by Bammers. Having said that, the aggys in there are just happy to be first in something for once, doesnt really matter to them what that may be. Ole Miss says “hold my noose”.

Did Putin fancy himself as reuniting Russia and USSR to the glory days he thinks they deserved, absolutely. But he also felt he was going to have a 3 day excursion where they would do what they had done before in Georgia, Crimea etc. And of course they spoke Russian, as they had been taken over for 50 years by USSR and forced to teach and use Russian as the primary language But Ukraine was wanting to be it’s own country, and if Ukraine could access and leverage their oil reserves it would make Russia less powerful and influential, and even superfluous to Europe or other countries. Putin and the Oligarchs are state sponsored Mafia, and a Ukraine that could compete or supplant Russian oil/gas could be economically and politically devastating. So Putin could work to diversify his industries, become better economically overall, be a better global partner….or he could make up Nazi, bio-warfare, nuclear, NATO, etc issues and do what he has always done as the head Russian Mafioso.

There was a post earlier in this thread that had a fantastic video about just this. It showed the identified, but untapped oil reserves that are in the Black Sea and that was in Ukrainian territory based on Crimea…which Putin took. There are also untapped reserves in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. The third area is in the west near the Moldova border…near the Transnistria area that Russia is occupying in Moldova….seeing a pattern. Large US oil companies were working with Ukraine to access this oil around Crimea when Putin invaded…but they have abandoned those projects. Net was that Ukraine could potentially provide as much oil and gas as Russia which would be great for their economy, but would not be great for Putin’s plan for growth and for having leverage over Europe and Germany.

An earlier post.

Fixed the first part, but just quit as the Russian dick sucking and capitulation to tyranny discussion just went on and on.

Not in Russia.

Agree. For Intel or Logistics guys especially who are in the Reserves it is not that unusual if the US is getting into a situation where we are forward deploying assets/people that they will call up reserve's to back fill jobs stateside. If we are calling up Reserve guys who are in combat roles to deploy (infantry, tanks, artillery) that is more telling.

I actually don't think he will use nukes. My reasoning is that while we may not counter with our own nuclear response, what we would do is reach out to China, Saudi Arabia, Mexico and any other "Neutral" countries and say they are either on the side of NO nukes and shutting Putin/Russia down, or they are going to face the same economic sanctions as Russia. So they jump on the Russia is a pariah economic bandwagon or they join them. Pick a side. I would hope this has already been conveyed to China/Saudi/Mexico/etc, and that they have passed it along to Putin that if he crosses that line they are out in whatever tacit/hidden/neutrality support he has been receiving. While it is a big bombastic threat (Russian negotiating tactics), it is not something (tactical nukes) that will drive any significant battlefield success and then his own people would say "We nuked our "cousins" in Ukraine in order to 'free' them?" and the rest of the world will say WTF!! To Putin the threat has more power/influence/benefit than the act. It's kind of like a hostage taker with a gun to the head of a hostage making demands. If he pulls the trigger he has lost all his leverage and shit gets real.

Me too. I don't lend either of them money.

I'm quoting this again as EVERYONE needs to read the last "hidden" contents section. Not only to see the delusion, but to see what future atrocities Putin and Russia is trying to prepare their people for to accept as "reasonable."

Aggy delusion vs. postseason selection committees is one of aggy's hottest one way rivalry.