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Posts posted by Enchubben
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22 minutes ago, Skyline said:
The issues with what you're proposing is that only the rich could afford college. Grants help a lot of students from lower SES as well as minorities get a chance at college. Not all of them graduate, but making higher education more attainable is necessary if you want people to have some mobility. If you limited college to only those who could afford to pay for it before beginning, you're narrowing the pool by an immense factor.
As for your second point, I'd argue that you're asking 17-18 year olds to make a prediction on the job market 4-8 years in advance for whatever degree they end up getting. Graduates have a right to be upset if they work towards a degree only to have it not be used like they imagined, or have the job market become extremely tight. Frankly, getting a good paying job as a young graduate is becoming increasingly difficult.
I'd agree with a focus on trade schools, but I think more students should be pushed towards community colleges as they aren't as expensive to attend so they can lessen the burden for the future.
Probably should start a whole new thread on education costs etc since this has little to do with an election., but I disagree with the second part there. If they chose a degree plan that doesn't result in the career they imagined upon graduation, or have trouble getting a job with that degree at all, they must have chosen their degree poorly, or performed poorly while at university. That is on the student, and yes maybe their parents, guidance counselors etc. Yes, sometimes a cyclical downturn in the economy or a particular industry may be at fault at the particular time of graduation, but that impact isn't solely felt by recent graduates - that's all workers.
In regards to the high paying - I find that a lot of recent graduates these days, at least from the major Texas public universities my firm recruits at, expect to make salary commensurate with mid level management right out of school and to live a lifestyle closer to their parents at the end of their careers rather than their peers. These lifestyle expectations and choices often make student loan repayment a distant priority and thus the burden of never ending student loan repayment and outrage about the cost of university.
The students that mike educated decisions on their degree plan and career path, and make sound financial decisions both during college and thereafter shouldn't be punished with the burden of those that make unwise decisions.
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31 minutes ago, relapse98 said:
You're talking about 17 and 18 year olds.. making a rational decision when deciding what school, what degree and what future career.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Some of them might be capable of that, but that's also a big ask for a senior in college. Decide what future career you want, when you haven't really explored what it takes to get there. There's a lot of blame to hand out in this one, it aint just the student but the parents, colleges, guidance office, student loan providers, etc.
Can't say I disagree with anything you posted here - plenty of blame to go around; not just the students. I also don't think that means we need to crowdfund bad choices or experimentation in college degree programs with tax dollars because a bunch of recent graduates are upset with student loans and think post secondary education should be free or a burden on the collective.
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9 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:
Yeah, this.
They've been told capitalism is great but they have huge student loan bills and mediocre job prospects. You can argue the details all you want but that's how they see it. Boomer Steve had a high school diploma but still had a solid life so of course he thinks capitalism is great. Never mind that Steve benefited from socialistic things like public education, high marginal tax rates, and massive government infrastructure programs.
The high dollar student loans complaint never really resonated with me. If you make a rational decision as to where to go to school and for what kind of degree in order to pursue a certain profession then the amount of student loans and job prospects is not a reflection of capitalism, but a result of the career you choose.
If people are mad that college is expensive then I agree. It should only be for those who a) can afford it before they attend or b) students that are pursuing a degree that will result in a job after getting a degree that can pay off those student loans. Graduates should not be mad that they chose a degree with no job prospects, rack up mammoth student loans, and then extra expect someone else to pick up the tab.
Personally I would rather us focus on improving and making trade schools more prevalent for those that can’t or shouldn’t attend University.
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Evans sure does seem to be very active on twitter regarding OU. I’m guessing they are giving the you can be Adrian Peterson pitch.
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6 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:
Gundy heading to LSU would be an easy way for him to improve his recruiting.
Aggys worst nightmare. They would clean up after a year or two of rebuild from the rosyfinch boyz.
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Lol, Chris Steele spitting some hate on Bobby Wolfe.
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Gotta wonder what the exact issues are with DL recruiting. Even if Giles is a dogshit recruiter, he appears to be a great development coach which you think would resonate with recruits.
Any chance the struggle has more to do with our defensive alignment and not playing a traditional 4 man dl?
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5 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:
Got a 2020 commit.
OU and UT seriously targeting USC stomping grounds. Gotta wonder if Helton is going to struggle.
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11 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:
Eagerly waiting TankedBevo inside info post....
@TankedBevo can you share now?
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20 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:
Aggy finally got the composite average above 90 at 90.02
Good for 13th place!
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omg I’m so surprised, what a twist! How clever!
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Triggered much? Just pointing out that making a definitive statement about future election results based off polls 4 months before an election is a bit aggressive. Especially given the current political environment that seems to be getting increasingly more volatile.
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9 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:
Keep in mind that there's a good chance Enchubben is a sheeeit sock.
Nah, thanks though. Just pointing out that polls at this point in time aren’t all that reliable.
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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:
Do you? Interesting. I recall polls that gave her a high chance of securing sufficient electoral votes to win (that is, her LIKELIHOOD of winning was high), but I don’t recall a single one that indicated that the vote margin would be a “landslide.” If love a citation to such polls, for verification.im not gonna go do a bunch of research but this is the first link after searching Hilary prediction landslide election in google. There were others like the following indicating close to 90% chance of victory with a margin of something like 100 electoral votes because she was going to win all the swing states, that she supposedly didn’t even need.
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36 minutes ago, David Dennison said:
November is going to be very bad for the red party.
Because relying on polls for elections has proved foolproof. I seem to remember poll after poll after poll predicting a landslide victory for Hillary.
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6 hours ago, Pods said:
It's pretty universally accepted and has been for quite a while. There's still a couple of holdouts, mostly bird people that feel like birds evolving from dinosaurs makes birds less unique or special in some way. It's a weird pushback. There are still a couple of holdouts in paleontology, but they are retired and everyone pretty much accepts it.
UT folks accepted the birds from dinosaurs hypothesis faster, because Tim Rowe was a big proponent of it back in the 90's in his dinosaurs class and they've had some really high profile fossils get scanned on the high resolution CT scanner in the basement at the Jackson School. Julia Clarke, who is there now, has done a lot of really cool stuff on early birds and related dinosaurs.
Birds evolving from dinosaurs is getting decently well known by the public. The amazing fossils coming out of China have helped build public awareness quite a bit.
It would help a lot if the guys doing Jurassic Park gave any shits about getting the science even half-way accurate, but they don't, so that leaves occasional dinosaur articles and Dinosaur Train as our vehicles for getting the message out.
Dinosaur Train!!!!! Dinosaur train. Once upon a time, there was a mom. Her name was Mrs. Pteranodon. Sitting on her nest, she heard a cracking and said Oh, boy, my eggs are hatching!
thats just quality writing right there.
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7 hours ago, TankedBevo said:
Get recruited relentlessly for two years with its supreme highs and lows and see if you don't want to have fun with it once you've made your decision. I hear nothing but shit talk about not only the Texas 9.95ers but the rest of the recruiting paysites being nothing but goobers and shills and when a recruit finally takes them for a ride he's going to get some shit from some fanbase. If you think for a second that if he had done the same thing and picked us you wouldn't be peacocking and grandstanding I call bullshit
Yea, no. I may be happy he picked us, but I would still think the way he did it is stupid and immature. I guess they are kids though so 🤷♂️
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26 minutes ago, texifornia said:
Yeah he's just regular high school silly. No personal issues, just a safety that badly wants to be a CB.
Agree, but it’s dumb when everyone knows it’s still Aggy.
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9 minutes ago, texifornia said:
He's going aggy. Just trying to create a "shock".
Yea this just seems dumb. If it were anyone besides Aggy he would still have them in top 3. Clearly not brain doctor material.
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8 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:
Maybe LB since the great Santino runs a 5.00
So our OT target runs a faster 40 than an aggy S and LB?
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53 minutes ago, Js1 said:
So cute.
Maxine Waters and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez both trigger the shit out of Trumpkins. I wonder what they have in common?
they're idiots?
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2 hours ago, Machinator said:
Boy that sure looked easy for the DE
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Just now, Casual Encounter said:
Kind of limited your NFL sponsorship opportunities there O’Neal...
I don’t think that’s going to be an issue.
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On 6/30/2018 at 12:47 AM, George Clooney said:
Mays' reputation is built on sending enough accounting/PPA graduates with inflated grades into the big 4 to stay relevant.
This is 100% true having experienced this first hand recruiting for enough years in big 4 across all the Texas schools.
For some reason no one finds it odd that when you go to recruit there 75% of their ppa grads have 3.75 and up. Most of those kids are idiots and we have to weed them out after their second/third year. The ones that stick around have limited upside and are basically compliance monkeys.(no racist)
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Texas recruiting notes 2019
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No Alabama after just visiting there? Nice