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  1. 2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Media probably with an assist from big tobacco.

    Definitely. The meedya and Big Tobacco were certainly in cahoots. I mean, you would think if it was smart, Altria would just buy Juul, but I'm sure it was cheaper to work with the authoritarians to hurt business.

  2. 3 hours ago, bolverk said:

    Okay, well, let's go back to your original claim and correct it with the right acronym.

    Source on the percentage? 

    Also, as a reminder, the UFT in NYC supports the mandate. So, regardless of whatever percentage of their membership is vaccinated, you're still fucking wrong, whether by design or stupidity.

     

    I posted an article earlier in this thread that showed the % vaccinated among NYC teachers, public hospital workers, cops, fire, and bus-subway employees. Your really proves my point: there is a gap between what people report they did vs. what they actually did. The most shocking besides teachers was public hospital workers were ~60% vaccinated. Cops and fire were lower and transportation was the highest at ~65%. It just continues to affirm that vaccine hesitancy is not exactly in line with what the meedya or others portray.

  3. 14 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

    I have zero sympathy or empathy for any unvaccinated person who gets it.  Too fucking bad; enjoy suffering, fuck faces. 

    This is where I shake out. Every adult has had the option to get the vaccine. If you refuse that's on you, not me. Don't punish me for your refusal to make a common sense decision.

  4. 2 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

    Help me out here. Wptv article says 16k children hospitalized this month (July). Did they misread AAP table?  I read it as 16k is the cumulative number, as in for the whole pandemic. 
     

    https://www.wptv.com/coronavirus/increasing-number-of-children-hospitalized-with-covid-19-doctor-says

     

    https://downloads.aap.org/AAP/PDF/AAP and CHA - Children and COVID-19 State Data Report 7.22 FINAL.pdf

    Sometimes a little common sense, smell test is helpful. Since 2019, < 350 kids have died from covid-19. Does that gel with 16,000 kids hospitalized in a month?

  5. 6 minutes ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

    Read the thread. You can figure it out. If you can't ... honestly could give two shits.

    Apologies - I wast trying to edit but my internet has had rona. I mis-spoke - it was the UFT - the NYC teacher's union, so my bad. I'm not sure about all the other crazy conspiracy stuff you mentioned though.

  6. 1 hour ago, CurlyDumps said:

    Basically, I think these two filmmakers wanted to be the next Errol Morris and thought they had discovered some grand double miscarriage of justice. Buuut that theory didn't work out so well. Turns out the subject of their film in actuality is a violent, abusive, dangerous sex criminal who got wrongfully convicted once, but definitely not the second time.

    That goes for most of the films in these genre. There is not money or fame to be had with "yup, he did it." But you can get lots of fame and sponsorship by parroting miscarriages of justice. I've always found significant gaps between what these movies portray and what the actual evidence or court transcripts reveal to be fact. It just sucks because we have a lot of people angry about things they should not be angry about.

  7. On 7/27/2021 at 12:07 PM, Captainant said:

    GIF by South Park

    lack of regulation is gonna make any manufactured good susceptible to cutting/counterfeiting. Shit, even the weed vape pens were getting cut with vitamin E acetate. Stick to stuff the way it comes out of the ground 

    Remember all the hysteria a couple years about about kids vaping ... they were not dying from JUUL pods but that's what the meedya told us.

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  8. 2 hours ago, dcar00 said:

    no ire.  the AFT rejected mandating vaccinations for teachers.

    As we learned in elementary school, talk is cheap. It is interesting that in additional to rejecting the mandate only 60% of AFT members are vaccinated. There obviously is a gap in between what people say and what they do. Of course, I am assuming (reasonably) that the AFT speaks for the significant majority of teachers.

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  9. 1 hour ago, Nole-4-Life said:

    Until someone makes a joke about his wife's weight.

    I don't know. As boss you have to expect some level of respect. Johny definitely was more measured and rationale, but he also got the additional earned respect from his gray hair. Tony clearly is self-conscious about being so young and overreacts at every tiny slight real or perceived. Him losing his mind over Uncle Jun's varsity athlete comments is a great example. He did not connect that you earn respect do not demand it.

    I'm sure it's been done, but it would be fun to get a management consultant's evaluation of Tony's leadership. It is so typical that the more an organization preaches its values the less they adhere to them. I mean those guys talk about loyalty and honor and "this thing of ours" but those guys have zero loyalty or honor to anyone be the dollar. It's not like they're criminals or anything.

  10. Nothing to add to the good column, but I'm most excited about a renewed Arkansas rivalry, which for much of the 20th Century was the greatest rivalry in college football. We go to church with a bunch of pigs, and Texas still is in its head more than any secsecsec school. 

    My concern is our ability to step up to the competition. Since 1997 we have the same amount of XII titles as Baylor. We have not exactly been dominating the XII, so we better step up or its going to be more 80s and 90s.

  11. Midway through season five ... Tony's illogical loyalty to Christopher is his largest strategic mistake. The mob is akin to dynastic monarchies where blood is placed above talent. Christopher is among the worst soldiers in the family. Tony should have ignored Tony and capped his ass after the Adriana debacle - of course he should have never let him rise so fast to the anger of particularly Paulie and the other capos. He has not a single redeeming quality.

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  12. 24 minutes ago, Lobo said:

    ^

    that's a good point, statistically speaking.  If it includes "un-vaccinatable" children, that throws a good deal of that data set into chaos.  And it's not politically incorrect to point that out either.  I'm guessing folks who have immunization compromises are likely spread pretty evenly among the four groups.  But Asians and Whites just don't have as many children per capita/per household as Blacks and Hispanics. Census and anecdotal evidence tell us that's the case.  

    It's okay though, Whites make up for part of the vaccine lag in other ways.  Like being Christian Scientists, Scientologists, and to some extent-the Amish, Mennonites, and Jehovah's Witness (which actually does have a large Hispanic membership).  Obviously not a significant skew as they total maybe 2-3 million in all, here in the U.S.  

    Now, somewhere out there is an Amish Black family with 7 kids and they are skewing this shit big time! 

    Interesting. I did a quick BOE and adjusted for people older than 14 I got 59% and 48% vaccination rates for whites and blacks, respectively. Hispanics adjusted was 57%.

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  13. Obviously traffic makes me surly ... why are Texas highway intersections constantly designed so that the entrance onto the highway is 100 feet in front of the exit from the highway so entering and exiting traffic have to cross - especially dangerous when entering traffic should be accelerating and exiting traffic should be decelerating. 

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  14. I get this is controversial and people on NextDoor are always yelling at each other and posting images from the traffic code ... but I don't get why people turning left across a divided intersection suddenly go British and pull into the left lane of the median. If an oncoming car is turning left then you're basically blocking each other's views of oncoming traffic. Add the complexity of what if someone is attempting to go straight in the perpendicular direction ... where the fuck is that car supposed to go? As I said, I get the traffic laws seem to diverge based on the width of the median, but who the fuck can get out and measure in traffic (much less carries a measuring tape to do so). There probably is a reason but it seems illogical vs. pulling across into the right lane of the median so you have a clear view of oncoming traffic.

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  15. 35 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

    You are obviously a bright guy - I think we can all agree on that. That's not the objection to your conclusion. 

    You make the same leap here with teachers.

    Those factual holes stand out in any analysis. The data may support your conclusion. Find out and follow that method of truth seeking.

    With the best intent, you are bright enough to fuck around and find out. The data may vindicate you - or - you will reach another conclusion based on the data. Rinse and repeat.  

    Remember your Aristotle - a conclusion provides the opportunity to examine that conclusion from a different perspective. 

    Thank you (I think). I mean I agreed that there is really no way to quantify who is the most "pro-vaccine" and admittedly I was making a non-data-based, qualitative assertion. I remain surprised that NYC teachers do not have a 90% vaccination rate.

  16. 32 minutes ago, Lobo said:

    Agreed.  Fair point.  But it was in the form of mask, no mask, staying home, not staying home, etc.  This is an actual verbal (again, not written online) declarations made in conversations and situations where it's kind of appropriate because it's topical but also awkward for everybody else in the conversation/room.  But I guess you're right, this is just the next step in how we plant flags around this whole debacle.  I guess I was also more surprised by who was saying what.  Wasn't always the guy you had pegged as the middle-aged, anti-science curmuddgeon.  Many times, it's the hipster 25-year old building manager who just cleverly works it into the property tour that she and her officemates have chosen not to get the shots because they just feel like it infringes upon their sense of adventure in the new world (yeah, that happened downtown the other day to me)

    I think that's the inherent weaknesses of trying to put people in simple boxes (as we all do and have forever). If you look at the data, it actually bears out your experience: vaccination rates heavily decline with age, so one would expect a hipster to have a lower Pr(vaccination) than a middle-aged person according to the data. Similarly, the biggest gap between the memes and the data is that anti-vaxxers predominately are deplorable MAGA people ... unless one believes deplorable MAGA folks are African-Americans and Latinos in large, Democratic cities. Some of the lower vaccination rates are in places like Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and New York (and the racial gaps in terms of hesitancy are obvious across the U.S.). 

    That being said, I generally find it weird for people to discuss their personal health decisions regardless of topic. I never get the flu vaccine for my own reasons, but I never volunteered that to friends much less strangers. What I found most interested about the New York data is I suspect there is a big gap between what some are virtue signaling and what actually is occurring (said another way a lot of the people that post the vaccine Facebook theme have not been vaccinated).

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  17. 24 minutes ago, Lobo said:

    So I'm not talking about the social phenomenon when you meet somebody and they can't help but work it into a conversation that they are either doing cross-fit, a vegan, or have lived/currently live in New York.  But the non-vaccine takers, some of them, are taking on a persona kinda like that.  As we've stated on here, many are not taking it for political or historical reasons.  I get it, I don't agree with it-but we knew that was gonna happen. 

    But I'm noticing this new group that I'm meeting out 'n about now that I'm back in person for many things.  The groups and businesses I meet with in person are from all political walks of life, all socio-economic backgrounds, certainly myriad ethnic groups and nationalities.  So it's not just blue Austin in red Texas.  But I've noticed people are starting to drop in a conversation that they are't vaccinated, and will often say the reason they have not gotten it yet or maybe will never get it.  But it's happened to me about 10-20 times now and there's this look in their eyes to a person that tacitly says, "I'm proud to make a choice for me."  And it's not that angry political rationale, it's just this thing they want you to casually know about them because they think it makes them seem different or interesting.  Mostly younger folks, under 40.  But some older than me.  It's this new sort of "I don't really have anything else interesting going on right now so instead of a new tattoo or showing people photos of my artwork, this is going to be my social differentiator...I see things other people don't see about the vaccine so I'm not getting it and I am proud so-and-so, blah blah blah."  

    It's obviously different from shit people write online because they are there in front of you, dominating the conversation with a tidbit that kinda fucks over other people, you know...in the same fucking conversation.  We've been reading from people for months online who aren't doing it for various reasons.  But I'm starting to see that, even apolitically, it happen in person.  It's this new thing that makes you edgy in public.  I don't get it, but it's getting more and more frequent.  yet again, another thing I simply did not have the imagination to fathom.   

    Virtue signaling has been a key part of Covid-19 since day one, so not terribly surprised.

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