Sandbagging Steve

So we could be very close to the ACC exit number, if the SEC is willing to take a second public in North Carolina State and VT. Would the SEC, B1G, Big 12 make these deals behind closed doors with the intentions of then breaking away from the rest of the NCAA in football? 1. UVA - SEC/B1G 2. VT - SEC 3. NC - SEC/B1G 4. NC St - SEC 5. Clemson - SEC 6. FSU - SEC 7. Georgia Tech - B1G 8. Miami - B1G 9. Notre Dame - B1G *10. Louisville - Big 12 *11. Pitt - Big 12 *(the money would be just as good in the Big 12 as the ACC) One more and the ACC no longer exists. Duke? Syracuse to the Big 12?

It's very easy to see Williams wrote the "interviews" in his own words.

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Why does Williams right like a third grader? Why do I see the same prose from Williams, Apple, conference executive or anyone else interviewed by Williams? When are we going to establish an enforceable code of ethics on our media? And, for the matter, our politicians, educators, religious orgs, corporate executives and their lobbyists, etc, etc...

In a 3 guard lineup, Weaver would come off the bench. He'll get plenty of minutes and it's his team after everyone departs in 2023. UTEP forward is undoubtedly coming off the bench, so there's room for one starting 4 needed in the portal. G Hunter G Abmas G Sellers F Rodman C Disu Plus a solid bench. Now that roster is as good as last year's team, which could have won the tournament. ** That's if Rodman plays bigger than his size, like his father.

DeSantis's very small chance of winning the presidency comes down to the fact that he's an insecure midget with no charisma. For some reason, people gravitate to midget authoritarians with nothing to offer but tyranny.

NYC has 8.5 million people NYC is not a huge college football town per capita But NYC is a college football town when looking at raw numbers compared to other cities and even states The vast majority of NYC fans come from the B1G, especially tOSU, Michigan, and Penn State. Rutgers gives the B1G members a game close to NYC, which assisted in pulling in the entire DMA Rutgers alone gives the B1GN nothing Rutgers also gives the B1G games played in a solid recruiting territory, although I'm not sure they've actually capitalized on that any more than before adding Rutgers I think it's easy to see how a huge flagship university (Maryland) in a populated but small land area could pull in some solid numbers for the B1GN TCU does not have these advantages

Iowa, Rutgers, Purdue, Indiana, etc. will have very little say in the future of the B1G. They will do as they're told. The days of the smaller schools ruling conferences are over. They will do what is best for the conference or the Bluebloods will break away and make their own league.

Dodds and McMurphy have not been busted reporting half-truths and manipulated statistics like the reporters out West. Actual half-truths that can be looked up and proven wrong. Over and over again for a year. That should tell you who has more reliability. Left Coast sports media has covered this the same way as a certain news station that made a settlement the other day. People on message boards all across America are rolling in laughter, They are the butt of the joke.

We didn't need all that info to know he covered tOSU. His profile picture gives it away.

Absolutely true, but they will eventually cave in or watch the Bluebloods leave the conference and start one big league. Some of the small schools are in this spot because of THEIR greed. They refused to do what was best for the sport for many decades and the Bluebloods are tired of dealing with it. From revenue distribution to some of the absolutely ridiculous rules and regulations put in the place by the small schools that refused to budge for decades.

This is the one that means the most for competitiveness moving forward in this era. Yep, and then you add a big state school like UNC and it's done. But there will be more than 16 teams in each conference and more than 9 conference games. The third conference will still be involved and fun to watch. And they may continue to get a shot at the playoffs. It's a win-win situation for all.

Why? I never said you had to have recruiting territory to get in the B1G. I did not say they were taking Oregon because of recruiting territory. I said they are #1 looking for competitive teams. Oregon is one of the most competitive teams in all of America. Very few schools meet all requirements. Oregon's recruiting prowess trumps the need for recruiting territory; not to mention its revenue, TV ratings, social media presence, AAU standing, relationship with the B1G (PAC/B1G), and consistency on the field. It doesn't get much better than that. Much of your own reasoning is proof they're going to take them. You've said teams are basically scared of the competition that Oregon brings to the table but wouldn't mind UNC, UVA, and Georgia Tech because no one is threatened by the competition on the field. That makes no sense. Conference realignment is not based on wanting to add the least competitive teams. It's never been based on that. That's not to say UNC, UVA, and GT aren't going to the B1G, but it won't be based on wanting a cupcake schedule. B1G already plays a cupcake schedule and they are trying to fix that.

Good point. B1G has been on a 30-year expansion plan for two primary reasons (excluding the money-driven reasons by TV/Bluebloods): 1. B1G is desperate for brands and competitive teams to fill their league. This is why they will not bypass Oregon and Washington long-term. 2. They're looking for recruiting territory and growing economies to help the middle-of-the-pack and lower-tier programs in their conference and keep their league viable. B1G understands their league would not have survived as a top dog for another 50 years without expansion. They are a few behemoth programs, a few rabid fan bases with average success, and some deadweight. The time was right to take advantage of their huge audience before it started to erode and tOSU, Michigan, and PSU eventually left to play with like-minded programs.

There are too many teams whining about travel, recruiting territory, and competition. I also stated they are currently worth on the low end at $55 million. This means it isn't an immediate revenue boost when they enter. It will be once they start playing all the other brands in the B1G every year. It takes time. None of these moves have added a bunch of teams at once. There are too many cooks in the room for things to happen swiftly or with any kind of normalcy. It took a year to add a blueblood like USC. I knew the B1G was expanding waaay before they added those teams. I'm not sure what you mean. It was well known the B1G was expanding. There was no stealth move whatsoever. McMurphy's reputation was built before this realignment. I trust him more because he's the only one who proves he's unbiased with his reporting over of a number of years in the business. He does not post for the sake of posting. But I also said I don't trust him or anyone on conference realignment. I know where this is going because it has played out for nearly 40 years and I've followed it since the 80s. Did you notice how Oregon was a top 15 to top 20ish power (as a program) by nearly every financial metric from revenue to TV ratings to Facebook shares, etc. until Bob Thompson's fake report? Yep, that happened. Yep! Notre Dame is going to feel the squeeze and then it's up to those 2. I do think UNC would be a lock to the SEC, but there's always the possibility that there is some ego-driven, authoritarian-style president who could go against what the alumni, fan base and the entire state prefer, which is the SEC. It could have happened to Texas as well. Different situations but with some similarities (UNC/Texas)

This isn't the reason for expansion. The networks and bluebloods (listening to the fans) want more conference games against like-minded competition. They're tired of seeing OOC games scheduled against glorified high schools. There will be more than a 9 game conference schedule in the future of this sport. We aren't stopping at 16. We aren't stopping at 18 either. It's going to take time because everyone is greedy and selfish and only looking out for themselves. We are nowhere close to the financial ceiling of college football. The 3 biggest brands left on the board: Notre Dame (who may insist on saving Stanford) Florida State Oregon And then it's filling in state flagships like UW, UNC, etc as well as Clemson and Miami. They will all end up at the Big Boy's table.

Who is voting them in? Money is voting them in! It takes time to get all the selfish, jealous competition on board, but they eventually have no choice. Following realignment, you should know that by now. Canzano wants UO and UW in the PAC; therefore, he doesn't want them to be worth it for the B1G. Thompson worked at FOX, which has all the leverage right now. PAC is toast and FOX can get Oregon and Washington at a discount for the first contract (whenever that is) I trust Murphy before anyone else in expansion, but even he will fall for some propaganda. Everyone's source in media (not just sports) has an agenda. You can simply look at the numbers in Seattle and the price of the B1G Network and see they are worth more than $30 million. You can look at Oregon's TV ratings when they play teams similar to B1G teams and see they are worth quite a bit. And it's been going on for a long time now, through many different coaches. They also recruit at a high level, which brings prestige to the conference. Oregon and UW give the PAC more late games (and the West Coast schools more prime-time games), which will allow the B1G to add another TV package. That's extremely valuable to the league. It will probably be a streaming package and added late games on ESPN, so it will take time to get all whiny programs on board and to figure out the best way to approach the TV packages. Anyway, I'm too busy to keep going back and forth. It will happen within the next 10 years. Could be any day or it could take a bit to get all the babies in line to vote. There's nothing in realignment that has been all that surprising. This stuff could easily have been predicted 30 years ago. The only somewhat surprise is Missouri to the SEC, but the B1G turned them down. Texas and USC were always either starting their league together or going exactly where they ended up. The only thing up for grabs right now is where Virginia and UNC end up.

Do you really think I haven't read that article??? He worked at FOX, which should tell you all you need to know about his reliability in this matter. And John Skipper said the ACC and PAC would make so much money by joining together! It's like magic! It just happens! Look at the hard numbers, B1G and B1G Network. Look at what Oregon vs. Wisconsin/Iowa/Nebraska is going to bring to the network. Look at how many people live in Seattle and how the B1G Network leverages these situations. It's not hard, but just like politics, you can't just believe whatever you want to believe.

I looked into this at the end of last year. Oregon and UW are worth at least $55 to $70 million a piece. If you factor in additional late-night inventory, which should lead to another TV package, both teams are worth more than that. Then you factor in the fact that both teams will be playing teams with bigger fan bases than in the PAC and their TV numbers will go up significantly. Then there's the fact that the B1G desperately needs more competitive teams that recruit well nationally. It's a no-brainer and will happen at some point in time. When USC first left the PAC, everyone said UW and UO would follow until they were influenced by reports saying those teams weren't worth much. The story doesn't add up. It is nothing but a leverage play from the B1G and certain B1G teams that don't want the added competition. Oregon and Washington will be added to the B1G sometime in the next 10 years. They may have to take a slightly smaller cut for the first contract simply because the B1G has all the leverage, but they will both carry their own financial weight in that conference. Anything else is sour grapes by competing fan bases and teams. At the end of the day, money talks.

Bo Davis knows how to play the game and he doesn't give a rat's ass whether the admin likes it or not. It can't overcome systematic ventures from other programs fighting for legit 5 stars, but it can easily win a recruitment like this. He's fighting with a hand tied behind his back. We aren't in contention with the difference-makers and winning recruitments like this and Sydir is his only hope to field a solid unit in the future. No applicant is turning down double the money.

I finally nailed down who Jimbo reminds me of .. he's a real-life Dorf

Jimbo looks like a deformed, short-legged corgi! Immoral, unethical POS!

Just keep the Trillin to a minimum, please.

Yes, I realize the B1G isn't kicking out those teams

B1G is weak in football, basketball, and baseball. tOSU is the only B1G football team over the past 10 to 15 years that competes against the national elites. UM has its moments but doesn't really recruit enough speed and runs a prehistoric offense. PSU has a mediocre coach. USC should bring speed and pedigree. That's a good start, but the B1G needs more, especially with the new SEC schedule. 1. B1G needs to kick out some of the weak programs. 2. It needs to add some competitive programs with speed on the roster. There are a couple of teams in the PNW waiting to fill part of that void. 3. It needs to hire more innovative offensive coaches. Wisconsin and Iowa need to come out of the stone age. I'm interested to see the changes this year in Madison. 4. Even with Oregon and UW, B1G probably needs a 10-game conference schedule to even start making up for the lack of competition. I wish the B1G would add UO, UW, Notre Dame, and Miami while demoting two of Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, or Rutgers. Honestly, there shouldn't be out-of-conference games for anyone. Line up and play each other. I'm tired of watching conferences duck competition. tOSU has been a very average team the past few years, and still wins nearly every game because of the lack of competition.