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Just saw this. The question was posed to be using the word grooming by someone else, I didn't use it. I also didn't know the granular distinctions of it as you apparently do (and now I do). So I guess I'll amend my answer; no it's not "grooming" but yes it's "normalizing" or whatever you want to say, as trauma said, and it's always been that way.

This is the same answer I gave, essentially. What's the problem with my response? Of course the answer is yes.

Yes. Next question?

Piling on that Turning Red was not an enjoyable movie experience for anyone. My wife and I didn't like it, my sons was completely uninterested and my daughter who would have related the most didn't like it either. Only half of us made it to the end; we all concluded we were just glad we didn't have to pay for this and it was free (we paid for Sing 2 when it came out and everyone loved it and the same kids have seen Encanto like 15 times).

I don’t really know what it is, I’m listening and learning constantly; as Jimmy mentioned I’ve been told the academic definition and how it doesn’t really exist in practice except rarely in grad school, and I’ve seen the definition morphed and defined by popular culture who have attempted to evolve the meaning beyond the strict academic and technical definition. My post was asking why or what does WF being allegedly racist and unethical (again) have to do with CRT and as it pertains to this thread. TwiceHorn just did a good job of answering why it’s germane. The post and discussion around WF is less CR and what the tone of this thread had been (I say that as a good thing), which is why I asked as well.

There has to be a better answer than the either/or— but hey I’ll be the first to say fixing public education is a massive issue and not an easy thing. I think if someone(s) can figure it out there’s easily a national award in it for them as well as a springboard to high profile public office.

Okay so it’s not.

How is WF being racist CRT again?

What in the world is going on here?

This is why public school is so messy and a headache. You have all kinds of people and beliefs and values that no administration can make everyone happy and eventually just does the minimum to mildly annoy everyone about something they care about. It’s an impossible job the more divisive and splintered and sub-verticaled different beliefs and cultures are getting.

Sorry it’s been a busy weekend. The dramatic and besotted comments were in response to how I perceived your consumption and interpretation of what I thought was a very mediocre comment. It felt like an overreaction and making a big commotion about little details that maybe even the artist himself would mean make.

Exactly re: don’t share the same reality. We (Americans) live in the same building But different floors. Perception is reality and perceptions are so different. Re: being an ahole- Sorry!

Which is the widely held opinion you share? It seems you liked the opinion that Takei was a self-congratulatory creep with a simplified opinion that doesn’t do enough to empathize and capture the reality of the common people via the single mom struggling with the gas? Or you share Takei’s opinion via his tweet?

God bless you all; this is my worst nightmare as a parent because you can’t control any of this and just have to do your best and hope therapies work. Good luck all.

No, I was implying that half of all the posts in the going goon thread had a Mexican in it— and then said probably because raiders, cowboys and 49ers fanaticism skews Hispanic oriented in those communities.

Also I will add, since you brought up “biological clock”: I have 5 kids and have had them from mid 20’s to early 40’s. Having children “later in life” which I think is mid 30’s and later, is a completely different ball game than as a young man (and woman, but speaking to you as a man and from my perspective). Your energy level, your activeness, your health, your ignorance all work together to make you bulletproof. The older you get the harder it is, to say nothing of where you might be in your career. It was way easier to be present and engaged as a 20 something dad when you are a young analyst or junior career person just starting off then as an older VP with a lot more pressure, hours, travel, responsibilities, etc. that fight for the time with your wife and newborn/child. Career and lifestyle have gravity and you need to account for that as an older guy.

Seinfeld did a bit about marriage vs single that I think you could say childless vs with children as well: “When I was [without kids] I had friends with kids and I would not visit their home. I found their life pathetic and depressing. Now that I [have kids] I have no friends [without kids]. I find their lives to be meaningless and trivial experiences. In both cases I believe I was correct. Whichever side or the [kids] situation you are on; you don’t get what the other people are doing.” Which is to say, as others have said in their own way, It’s a profound shift in perspectives that will cascade down and impact, if not change, every form and function of your life as you know it now.

Preach! The following is just my opinion, I’m no social scientist: It’s the generation and culture we are in to embrace troll culture, I feel like, over the thoughtful. We (conservative minority, under 50 years old) are mostly interested in a low effort/low calorie effort that exhorts humor and laughter via the quick hitting meme or troll tweet or whatever because a) the gulf between belief systems is (generally) so massive wide there is precious little common ground or understanding to begin with to have a legitimate, good faith discussion and b) it’s in the vein of the “IYKYK sub-meme” that it’s funny to meme/fark/make fun of your political opposite/other/enemy these days. Young Dems do it too, which leads me to next point: threads where you just have the politicians name and the year (example: Kamala 2022) are lazy because it invites two things: a catch-all to gripe and ridicule her and a catch-all to defend and champion for her. It gets to be where eventually it’s just a team sport, blue vs red, on these types of threads because it becomes less about the latest incidents and specifics and more about making a broader defense of democrat politics because the thread gets full of drive-by meme and funny troll swipes. I almost fell victim to this and posted the funny tweet where she knee-jerked and immediately tweeted how sad it was that Jussie Smollett was a victim and he suffered modern day lynching and scolded America to do better, after the verdict. Then I thought, what would that accomplish, except make people mad because it’s embarrassing and obviously an attack at Kamala because I don’t prefer her as a VP, and the handful of folks who would laugh probably have already laughed. Plus the more interesting part of that which we should debate is our propensity to jump the gun and say emotional things in emotional times without knowing all the facts. That’s a more productive and interesting conversation.

I don’t know; do you buy on price or are you an oil painter artist?

So strange of a response. Immamac is an amazing administrator and IMO, as one of the minorities in CR and on this site, doesn’t unfairly or indiscriminately bias or bigot against opinions and belief systems that are not in the libera mainstream here on this site. I think we are fortunate here in that way.

Thanks for the thorough response, it was a serious question because I initially knee-jerked to understanding that cartoon as a "classic leftist elite who is out of touch with society" critique by a right-wing cartoonist riffing off the George Takei (who you amusingly call creepy) tweet* I figured a cartoon like that wouldn't resonate with what I know of your sensibilities and politics, as gleaned from your posts I have read over a span of time, so that's why I asked for a bit more detail. I didn't expect such deconstruction, and I have to admit to thinking your review dramatic and besotted for my taste, but I can see how you'd appreciate it as you did, by your description. Thanks! *https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/1499883863555858444

Do you know what practical means? Of course basing definitions that align to your day-to-day and exist within your sphere of influence is more practical and useful than a technical data point that doesn't realistically impact you. That practicality is what I was referencing.

I read his family’s response and I think I see where he is getting enabled to be divorced from reality. His family are ten toes down for him on this obvious lie and grift and so he thinks his lie can work for the broader public I think. “Jussie's older sister Jazz Smollett, 41, started off by saying that she believes her brother is innocent. "This should not be a controversial statement because it is the absolute truth," she said. "What should be controversial is the entire miscarriage of justice his whole ordeal has been." As for Jussie's younger brother Jocqui Smollett, 32, he said his brother is a "complete victim." "He was attacked and he is now going top jail for being attacked," Jocqui told reporters. "I saw my brother get locked up within two weeks for being attacked. Do you know how crazy that is?" He said in front of the courthouse that the sentence discourages people from reporting hate crimes in the future.

The guy is clearly mentally ill. I hope he gets the therapy, medicine or whatever help he needs behind bars to come out and be a bit more adjusted.

I guess; I just thought there had to be more to it than what meets the eye because it seems a pretty straight forward narrative and mediocre comic. I guess it's making fun of George Takei for being a bit out of touch?