Gatorubet

Trump is a traitor to the country and tried to overthrow the Democratic rule of the United States government. That was the line in the sand for the Cheneys. The fact you think what you think - means only that you are also supportive of your candidate being a traitor to the constitution and his oath. It doesn’t bother you because you are worthless traitorous scum. You don’t realize that every post you make makes you look worse - while in your feeble giddy-with-victory brain you think you’re making points.

actually, she’s looking more like Naomi as she gets older

I think everyone’s on the same page here

it is, but as much as I would not feel sad at that asshole dying, the end of the ACA would result in a lot more people dying who did not vote for Trump because he hated the black guy.

…we’re both correct.

The interest rate on my first mortgage was 13 1/2% I have a friend whose first house was 15%. Carter was cooked without the Iran crisis.

Nope. they get angry when you tell them that their God king is full of absolute bullshit and lies. Facts are useless. You keep talking like it makes a difference what the content of the discussion was. The only content is ‘I’m on team Trump and I want to hurt people who aren’t on my team.’ That’s it. How It got that way is a different story, but there is literally nothing you could tell most MAGA fans and make them switch. The anecdotal evidence of this from numerous people on the board (who posted how they changed minds) is as accurate in the broad demographics as the evidence that old people were voting against Trump. The Anecdotal Evidence is bullshit. You just want to keep believing the lie that that they’re very nice slightly misinformed people. like I say, these are the people who would bring casseroles to their ailing neighbors - and yet take time to go throw rocks at the school buses bringing in black kids. Those are nice, nice people. Just ask them. Ask their family if they are nice. Ask their church members. Ask their neighbors. They will all tell you they are nice… …but we need to deport those dog eating Haitians and all those criminal murdering Mexicans.

so you are suggesting that we pander to ignorant gullible people and support things that will hurt their lives because they are so ignorant they don’t understand the things we explain to them to help protect against the lies? Gotcha. Now, we were always a nation of ignorant, gullible people, but they were generally held in check because they had no podcasts or Facebook or Fox News telling them all the false things that they believed and voted upon. If Walter Cronkite and Huntley and Brinkley and your local newspaper were still providing our information - Trump would not be president. at some level, it is as simple as that.

This is exactly the type of honest and self-reflective post that makes me frequent Surly.

if Bruin tries to sell you an exorbitantly expensive ‘ChemoDick’, don’t fall for it.

ignore it. I was just angry the Snopes family wound up taking over the south.

That’s only because you read these platforms with the brain of a moron. everybody else sees that they Sane-washed the worst presidential candidate in the history of the country to such an unprecedented extent that the scales had a journalistic thumb pressed firmly on it.

Really? This is exactly the sort of intellectual dishonesty that you favor that leads to your reputation here. I said absolutely not one thing in support of or against generational households. I merely pointed out that your data point construct - being a single income person supporting their family like the 1960s - was still absolutely an obtainable goal, not something false “sold” to them. it’s just that now nobody wants that particular life. From my perspective, it was more the 1980s ‘greed is good’ philosophy, with an emphasis placed on how much you made and how nice a neighborhood you lived in that altered your little white house construct. If you truly wanted to be accurate, you should’ve listed the lie that spending money on college would always be a good decision. People who became literally financially crippled through ridiculous educational debt have a right to feel hopeless and that they were lied to. It took me six years to graduate, and I literally earned every dollar of my college degree, including tuition and living expenses. I had to work part time while I was going to school and I took many semesters off to work as a union laborer, which made much more money than minimum wage. But I graduated with no debt, somebody that made my decision to obtain a post graduate degree financially sensible. People who owe 150 K for a philosophy degree should be angry, but should’ve had enough sense to know where that was leading. I very much blame high school guidance counselors and universities for selling that bill of goods Since you brought up multigenerational living, I think it is an idea that will happen of necessity rather than planning, as people will not be able to put mama in the nursing home or Assisted Living m ok due to insufficient assets. A combination of family assisting with a modicum of hourly caregivers is likely way less expensive. And of greater importance, in many cases it would result in better care for their elderly loved ones. And I can see part of grandma or grandpa‘s Social Security being used to help pay the mortgage on that multigenerational home. All of that is not a bad thing in my mind, as family needs to support family.

no, they weren’t. What was normal to me growing up in the early 60s was a one car family with a two or three bedroom house with one bathroom. You could afford that on one income. Nothing about that vision of America said everyone deserves a Mcmansion with a giant bathroom suite, several expensive foreign cars and all the toys and vacations you felt you wanted. My current 5 bedroom house is nicer when we bought it than any home I or my former wife ever had growing up. My home is not a McMansion. I felt that I was entitled to the two bedroom, one bath, small house and one car with one income life - and that I was extremely fortunate to have done better than that in my personal situation. But that is likely because I was born in the 1950s - and many folks who were born in the last 30 years can’t conceive of the way I grew up as being anything but poor.

The problem is the way to win is to demonize people and make the electorate scared even though what you say is false. To win, you must constantly lie about what you do and about what your opponent does. But most of all, to win you have to be absolutely cruel to some group that you’ve decided you will blame everything on. That is the template for a winning strategy these last several decades. I don’t particularly want to belong to that party, so I guess I will remain in the losing minority until I die.

he will tell them it’s all Kamala’s fault and they will believe him.

Well, it is difficult. When you see people approaching you with giant pustules all over their faces and a feather duster jammed up their asses - all because a politician told them it would be good to do this - it is hard to pretend not to notice, let alone refuse to comment on the pustules and the feather dusters. But please, continue to turn around and shake your feather duster at us.

Time to buy expensive shit from the Chin-ee before tariffs. If you’re gonna buy solar, you better do it now while the government has money to give you 30% credit.

Oh, I would not say the south is “deep”.

you sound un-smart

if Immamac can monitor the poster, “Fat Ugly Lonely Lesbian” sounds like an excellent new screen name

They voted for a convicted and admitted sexual predator - a man whose family had a charity that stole from children cancer patients - a man who is cheated almost every contractor he ever employed, and his employees admitted during his trial they might be fired if they paid what Trump agreed to pay in a contract without getting it reduced. They voted for a man who made fun of people with visible health problems, voted for a man who said police should smash the head of presumed until innocent arrestees on police cars, a man who only the stupidest human beings on earth would be able not to tell was a pathological liar and narcissist, a president who stole national security documents - and then lied about it and tried to hide them after he stole them, and a man who swore to take revenge on the news, political opponents, and anyone who opposed him. You have the fucking gaul to question calling those people ‘stupid’ under those absolutely true and unquestioned facts The fabric is coming apart because those fucking idiots are too stupid to tell that the fabric is coming apart, and support the least honorable or stable or competent or intelligent president in our history.