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  1. 57 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

    In my opinion, they should only be banned if they are not arguing in good faith. I believe that Maybe A  Coordinator is arguing in good faith. He may be wrong, but that is not grounds for banning. Again, just my opinion.

    Arguing that Maryland is an SEC school in a football thread is wrong.   Continuing to argue that point after being apprised that your position is wrong - eventually - reeks of trolling rather than innocent but a misguided or stupid take.   In this thread he is arguing that the soft drink cups sold in Maryland  were made in Alabama, so SEC. 

    At some point he needs to STFU. 

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  2. 9 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


    I posted an article that addressed a point made by somebody else on this thread. Go jump in a lake. 

    NOW it was serious. A double-dog-dare. What else was there but a "triple dare you"? And then, the coup de grace of all dares, the sinister “go jump in a lake!”

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  3. Hey guys, I'm not here to do ___________. Now, let me go ahead and do that. His point is stupid. So is yours. I doubt you'll find a bunch of defenders of our war Vietnam here. 

    I remember how those who served in Nam were treated so well by the public upon their return, who had nary a complaint about the war’s conduct - or linked war crimes or immoral conduct to that war.

    And my liberal anti-war older brother and his friends who served their 15 year sentences for criticizing the war (that LBJ created by executive order). Good points all.
  4. 33 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

    Ukraine is a sovereign nation. Ukraine has been invaded by a hostile enemy. And you still can't imagine the fact that they actually want to fight off the invaders for themselves, you can only view the entire situation through an America-centric prism. 

     

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    “The Orcs have bombed the city and taken the Mariopol Zoo…I’m thinking let’s wait for the US to direct our response.”

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  5. 2 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

    I've said this on here before, but I've never changed my handle in spite of how it implicates me as a fool. I was a loyalist well past time to quit. I've hd the opportunity to speak with Vance Bedford casually and at length and even he as told me the same. You get dug in on a position and you fight and sometimes you are wrong. 

    What I see here is y'all are wanting to widen this war even more than Zelensky does. You want him to fight to the last Ukrainian but what on earth is your end goal? Do you think we can widen this war and win? That Putin will just go home? Or do you really believe there will be some black swan coup or assassination? Or that we can activate teh forces of Nato along with Ukraine and annihilate Russia forever?

    Zelensy has indicated he is willing to accept a neutral Ukraine. Some of you won't accept that on his behalf. You say it can't be enforced, or how can you trust the Russians, or whatever. But this is the only solution. The Ukrainians are willing to accept neutrality and the Russians claim that's what they want to. I am not dumb enough to believe that there should not be some teeth in this state of neutrality. I believe Ukraine should be entitled to Article 5-style protection from attack, but also that it should be effectively disarmed. Why is that so difficult a concept to grasp? If we can get Putin to agree to a deal like that, why not go for it?

    Otherwise we are just dumping more money and hardware into a black hole that has the potential to end life on the planet. So far this entire invasion has operated exactly the way John Mearsheimer said it would back seven years ago including this alleged retreat, save for the fact that Russian ineptitude has made it a bit more costly than Vlad anticipated. He never wanted to annex Ukraine and occupy it block by block. He wanted to break it, to wreck it, to teach it a lesson, and make it fear that he would do it again absent a promise of neutrality.

    As far as I can tell these American opposition to Ukrainian neutrality is "it would makes us look like a puss." Well who cares if a neutral Ukraine is protected by Article 5 like Nato protection. Where if he invades again, he gets the whole enchilada of Nato air support and ground troops in Ukraine and possibly even bombing of Russian soil? 

    We need to do whatever we can to put this situation to bed because we have bigger fish to fry. Domestic idiocy, the climate crisis, China on the rise....and here we are getting sucked in (again) to some damn fool thing in the proverbial Balkans. 

    I heard that in this voice:

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  6. 29 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

    How can you trust a public opinion poll out of Russia?

    Because it is exactly what you would expect to see when your country is in a shooting war that is alleged to be targeting your fellow Russians in Donbas?  

    Of course everything about the poll needs to be looked at with a critical eye.  I’m not saying percentages are golden, just that it is expected to support your guys in a shooting war. 

    Let me ask you this: Why would you be surprised at Russian Boomers believing what false shit was said on state run news?

    If only we had an American equivalent to old folks believing a big lie promoted on our tv media, but as we don’t, just use your imagination. 

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  7. 24 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

    I don't believe anything coming out of Russia.  100% propaganda and parsed via Moscow to hide the truth from her citizens.  Just my opinion.  I do try to read as much as i can , but i dont believe they RU people are coming around to Putin voluntarily.

    Look, I don’t care who you are, if your country is involved in a war and you have neighbors and family in the military, you are going to back your guys.   Like for the hot minute Argentina backed war with the UK….until they dumped the government responsible for the war when it was a disaster. 

    Jesus - look at our own patriotic knee jerk idiocy.   Remember “Freedom fries”?   Everyone backs our own side even in a poorly decided lie-induced shit war like Iraq II.    We were all in.   So are they.   Now.  And they had 5% of our access to a wealth of non-state driven news.   Of course they back Putin with what they are allowed to know.   Hell, “Mother Russia is being attacked” is like Pavlov’s dogs to those poor mooks.   It’s in their DNA. 

    Lets see how they feel in six months when they are out of work and nothing is on the shelves and 20k dead Russian family members gets known. 

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  8. 1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

    That’s a rooooooough 58 

    Todd has good timing. Dumps her right after the zenith of her looks and financial worth and before the slide.  

    Now he’s banging younger-by-half-his-age Alaska 10s  (everywhere else 7s) and hunting and fishing….all without having to constantly listen to that voice. 

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    The military of the 95th Brigade shot down two Mi-8 transport and combat helicopters.

     The fighters destroyed them by calculating the domestic portable anti-tank missile system "Corsair". This is, in fact, the first time that an air target has been successfully destroyed by ATGM.

    By now Ukraine is flooded with some of the world’s best anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons.   Every day is harder for the orcs.  Their morale and combat readiness continues to deteriorate, while the defenders of Ukraine have growing confidence and resources. 

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  10. 52 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    …. it's going to be hard for Russia in the short-term to both rebuild their lost military hardware, and also to export military hardware (could be several years since Putin's paranoid enough to want to rebuild his inventory first).

    Without an army to threaten domestic and foreign opponents, his former means of enforcing foreign policy has taken a huge hit.   Chinese weapons dealers have a giant erection that will last more than 4 hours.   

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