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The Original Greaser Bob

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  1. 49 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

    The final goal is to leave and live on a private island with private military support etc.  For the billionaire class.  First, you have to ransack this country before you leave it's bloated corpse behind.  Then the next step is to finish off the earth and head to space.  If you don't think that's the plan, you're not paying attention.  

    Count me in as staying on to be a hunter gatherer.

    Will be so nice without those motherfuckers here, even if I'm only gathering two headed crawdads.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, randomhorn said:

    The way to greater American prosperity is encouraging people to move from lower productivity jobs in the public sector to higher productivity jobs in the private sector. 

    GOP (and possibly surly, motto):  You can never be too much of a dick.

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  3. 6 minutes ago, Paper_jam said:

    Does anyone really believe these federal RIFs are going to improve the effectiveness of the government, at least towards the goals these agencies are intended to perform?

    They are intended to improve the effectiveness of "government" by eviscerating the federal government.

     

  4. 11 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    if those two send an email promising 8 months severance if I reply with “Resign” and stop showing up/dialing into work, there is zero chance this promise will be met. 

    If that happens, we can discuss.

    Fork in the Road

    Doesn't look like any promises made.

  5. 5 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Elon offered 3-6 months of severances for those who were hit by the main Twitter layoff in 2023. Elon then gave them 1 month a few months later. Dared them to sue.

    Not really.   He said he'd to honor Twitter's prior severance plan and then broke an oral promise to do so.  That case that attempted to say that the promise created an ERISA plan.

    I'm not assuming that anything is offered until the employees are provided some written document that promises the specific pay.

    Is Trump a liar and full of shit? Agree with you.

    Am I going to automatically assume that any deal an employee takes is unenforceable?  No. 

    Because I haven't seen the deal.

  6. 43 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Most likely the best workers would take the offer because they're confident they can find employment elsewhere. The worst of the worst are the ones who will stay. The people you mention who are mailing it in.

    I've never heard of voluntary buyouts being a benefit from an efficiency standpoint. And as a citizen I only care about the efficiency. Personally I don't care about govt costs especially as I get older.

    The benefit of the buyout is usually morale.

    This administration is not concerned about efficiency - they might be if they end up deciding that the particular agency should sitll exist with a skeleton crew.

  7. 2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    I don't have any problem with the general idea of a buyout but I don't think the best method is for the top of the organization to offer buyouts to 100% of the workforce. Seems a bit manic to do so.

    Not wanting to sidetrack too much, but it's kind of hard to limit the offer without it raising possible discrimination claims.

    You want the people who most want out to leave.  You want the people who want to stay to stay.

    I was a fed for eight years.  Some very fine people.  But some people that are mailing it in, just like any large organization.  

     

  8. 2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    The win-win for Trump is if many take the offer and he fires them without paying them. 

    Okay, and then maybe he'll kill all the jews, too.

    But that's not the debate I'm interested in.  That's more of a leopards eating faces kind of thing.  And I'll leave it to that thread in a couple of weeks.

  9. 6 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    That offer came anonymously from an office that has no authority to offer it and in a way completely out of line with how the federal government handle any personnel action.  A better question is why anyone would think it is valid. 

    I guess I'm focused more on the actual idea of the buyout than the "validity" of any communication. 

    If it purports to come from management, then any employee relying on it would likely have a case for detrimental reliance. 

    I will agree that there is probably no limit to how much Trump can fuck someone over.  I'm more focused on all the things that we clearly have evidence that he's fucked someone over.

  10. 1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Why do you believe that Trump and Elon would stick to their word? Past history says they don’t.

    Do you have any evidence that either offered a severance package or an exit incentive and then didn't pay it?  Certainly that would be easy to find for Elon.

    This is completely win-win for the Trump Administration.  

     

  11. I'm curious why many of you think that the retiring feds would get screwed out of their payment?  Tiny price to pay to shrink the payroll -- most of the younger folks would find another job and be more likely to vote Republican next cycle.  Congress would gladly fund it.

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  12. 25 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    Fired for lack of loyalty to the regime. Totally normal for a modern western democracy.

    Loss of trust is a perfectly acceptable non-discriminatory business reason to terminate someone.

    When it's based on a legitimate belief in conduct which reflects the same.  

    We will see what the new standard is. 

     

  13. 2 hours ago, bolverk said:

    The fed employees are given 1 week to decide.

    Interesting.  In the private sector, you have 45 days to consider and seven days to revoke after signature if over 40 IF you are also signing a release. (OWBPA)

    I week to decide but don't have to sign a release.  That doesn't seem like a problem.

    Whether the program is funded properly or legal is a separate issue.

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