Mitch Cumsteen

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Again, it's a one game sample with no Draymond or Beal. If Phoenix gets that out of Nurkic every night, it's maybe a different discussion but GS has no one inside to exploit his atrocious defense. There's a good reason that Eubanks only got the minimum this off season. He's an unskilled bouncy hustle guy. He'll get you some highlight dunks and blocks, but is otherwise a giant pile of meh.

I know they’re a man down with Beal out but that Phoenix bench is problematic. I lived though enough of the Drew Eubanks experience when he played for the Spurs to know that if you are dependent on him for anything other than garbage time dunks you are in trouble. Suns are going to have to play their stars 40 minutes a night.

It’s game one on the road against the best team in the league on ring night while breaking in a bunch of new players. And Denver is a terrible match up for them anyway. I think they’ll be alright.

He’s ridiculous. Doesn’t even look like he’s trying.

Honestly, that’s probably the most likable thing that Dwight Howard has ever done.

Juicy has changed my mind. I don't think there's much to see here. This is the same thing as Mack Brown having Chris Jessie on the sidelines. In defense of Stalions, he never tried to pick up a live ball in the middle of a play. Of course, Stalions was probably too busy watching the other sideline but whatever.

Out of all the personal attacks, you should be 1000x more offended that he associated you with helobious. That was way below the belt.

He wasn't comparing the act, he was comparing the myopic rationalization from a fanbase that quite frankly, should know better. It's example number 3,642 of how this thread is flying way over your head. Look my man, you've provided some decent content over the years here, but you are dead ass wrong on this one. If Ohio State got caught doing the same thing over the (very, very long) recent period where they dominated Michigan, you would be screaming about it at the top of your lungs.

Exactly. This thing stinks to high heaven and Michigan (like Texas) holds itself to a higher standard. Our self-righteousness is the only thing that keeps us warm in the winter when OU and Ohio State are playing in the playoffs. When you've lost that, what do you have left other than a cabinet full of tainted conference championship trophies?

Pre-season don't mean shit and small sample size but... Trying to talk myself into this... do you really need a point guard any more? Just about anyone can bring the ball up the court these days. Just about anybody can initiate offense off the dribble into a pick and roll. We even saw Tre Jones set a pick for Wemby the other night. And on defense, everybody is switching so you might as well get as many mid-size guys as you can on the floor who can guard multiple positions. In this pace and space era where everybody can move and shoot from the perimeter, maybe the true point guard is a dinosaur? Now watch them go commit about 25 turnovers per night.

The NCAA will get to the bottom of this. I hear the boys down at the crime lab are working over time. They have them working in shifts.

I don't get the Denver disrespect either. Sure they lost a couple of key bench players, but having a healthy Murray makes all the difference for them. I can't remember the league having this much parity or this much talent spread out. You can look at just about every team in the league (with the possible exception of Washington) and make a case for them being at least somewhat interesting/talented/promising/exciting. In the east Philly is Harden-paralyzed. Cleveland is still up and coming but that playoff stinker still looms. And we should know better than to count out Miami. But it's really Boston, Milwaukee and the rest. But the west? It's ridiculously deep. I'm re-purposing what I put in the Spurs thread below, but there aren't going to be any nights off in the western conference. Nobody will be tanking outside of maybe Portland. Every over/under seems perilous with this field. One injury for a week or two could cost you 5 slots of playoff position. The regular season might actually mean something for once. Championship tier: Nuggets - defending champs with a core in their prime. They aren't going anywhere. Window closing tier: Lakers, Clippers, Suns and Warriors are pot committed with aging rosters. Also, of those four, only the Warriors own their own first round pick in 2024 and that's only if it falls in the top 4. So even injuries won't push any of them into tank mode. The time is now, maybe, tier: Grizz, Kings, Mavs, Wolves and Pelicans all have some sort of urgency to win now, too. The Pels and Grizz are close to tipping points with Zion and Ja. The Mavs went all in on fucking Kyrie and need to win to keep Doncic around. The Wolves mortgaged their future and have a budding star in Edwards on the clock. The Kings just made the playoffs for the first time in 100 years and decided to run it back and commit long term to their core. They gotta keep that beam lit. Not rebuilding anymore tier: Thunder have a really young talented team hoping to take the next step plus Holmgren. The Jazz are a notch behind the Thunder, but likewise have some talent. Maybe if things head south for them, they start to punt on the season? OKC owns their pick but it's top 10 protected. The Spurs have Wemby and there's no way that Pop is going to tank again in however many more seasons he has left. That leaves the Rockets, who don't own their pick either, so they have zero incentive to tank. Plus they made a bunch of win-now moves to get vets. Likely to suck no matter what tier: Portland. They finally embraced the rebuild, but they aren't completely devoid of talent. There are some dogs on that team, too. Not dawgs, dogs. Like the kind with fleas. Portland is likely to be terrible unless Scoot is the real deal right away and they compete from day 1. I'm not seeing it, but they still have (for the time being, at least) Brogdan, Robert Williams, Grant, Ayton and Simons to go with Sharpe and Scoot.

Not surprising. Well, maybe a little for Wesley but he's on a cheap enough deal that it doesn't matter.

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Win Totals: Boston Celtics 55.5 (O -110/U -110) Milwaukee Bucks 54.5 (O -120/U +100) Denver Nuggets 53.5 (O +105/U -125) Phoenix Suns 51.5 (O -120/U +100) Cleveland Cavaliers 50.5 (O -110/U -110) Philadelphia 76ers 49.5 (O +100/U -120) Golden State Warriors 47.5 (O -115/U -105) Los Angeles Lakers 47.5 (O -110/U -110) Los Angeles Clippers 46.5 (O -110/U -110) Memphis Grizzlies 45.5 (O -120/U +100) Miami Heat 45.5 (O +100/U -120) New York Knicks 45.5 (O +100/U -120) Minnesota Timberwolves 44.5 (O -115/U -105) New Orleans Pelicans 44.5 (O -110/U -110) Oklahoma City Thunder 44.5 (O -110/U -110) Sacramento Kings 44.5 (O -110/U -110) Dallas Mavericks 43.5 (O -110/U -110) Atlanta Hawks 42.5 (O -115/U- 105) Indiana Pacers 38.5 (O -110/U -110) Brooklyn Nets 37.5 (O -110/U -110) Chicago Bulls 37.5 (O -110/U -110) Orlando Magic 37.5 (O +105/U -125) Toronto Raptors 36.5 (O +100/U -120) Utah Jazz 35.5 (O -115/U -105) Houston Rockets 31.5 (O -120/U +100) Charlotte Hornets 31.5 (O +100/U -120) San Antonio Spurs 29.5 (O -110/U -110) Portland Trail Blazers 28.5 (O -110/ U -110) Detroit Pistons 27.5 (O +100/U -120) Washington Wizards 24.5 (O -1110/ U -110) Championship odds: MVP Odds:

Absolutely love this signing. He’s going to put up big numbers next to wemby and he’s just now entering his prime. Gotta give the front office credit for signing him and being patient with his rehab.

I guess you can kill yourself in Chapel Hill, too.

I’m trying to not be a homer about this dude 3 fucking preseason games in. I’m really, really, really trying. And I apologize for the hyperbole and idiotic hot take, but if he can stay healthy, he has a better than decent chance be the best player in the history of basketball. This cat is 19 years old. What the fuck are you going to do with him when he’s a grown ass man?

This shit is absurd.

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