Tom

I wouldn't say we have any big family rifts over politics other than I just try to avoid talking about it. Occasionally my sister will bring something up that pushes my bullshit meter a little too far and we"ll get into it. My grandparents were also FDR Democrats and I think my family started voting for more Republicans sometime around Eisenhower as well. My dad says he voted for Carter, but he's voted Republican every election going back to Reagan. My mom was never that focused on politics since she didn't officially get her citizenship and couldn't vote until about a decade ago. My entire family has drank the Fox News kool aid now, and I'm definitely the liberal black sheep in my immediate family.

OMG I need this shirt.

The one positive I can say about the Trump presidency is the satire of Trump and his supporters by comedians on Twitter has been amazing.

The first time I remember paying attention to the president/politics is the 1988 election. Dad talked to my sister and me about how we supported Bush in our family because Republicans supported lower taxes and there would be more jobs. I was 32 at the time.

You're lucky. I still have a couple of people posting shit like the below. A LOT. Every day. I should just unfollow them but part of me is mildly fascinated by their ability to live in a completely different reality, and like I car crash I can't look away. The below were all posted in the last 24 hours by the same person, and I could have posted 10 more. She spends all day posting about the election, fraud, and how Trump has it under control and is winning. She's obsessed.

I just ran through "I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson" for probably the third time. It's a short binge and is such a good sketch comedy show that it really sucks that season 2 is taking fourteen years to come out. I'm guessing COVID has probably delayed shooting or something? If you like weird and absurd comedy, this is a good show for you.

Maybe it's good. Maybe it's bad. Maybe you fuck around and find out.

Go to hell!

Rudy and the campaign were going to have a press conference making a statement on what they perceive as election fraud. Someone on staff tried to book the venue at the Four Seasons. Incompetence prevailed and they instead booked at Four Seasons Total Landscaping off of a freeway. So Rudy and Co. had a press conference in a parking lot in an industrial park outside of a landscaping company wedged in between a porn shop and a crematorium.

That's what this reminded me of too. Bunch of nerds started crying about Reddit closing down toxic subreddits that were threatening and harassing people, so the dorks wanting to harass others tried to get people to switch to Gab. It never caught on. This will be the same. I've seen a handful of my Trumpiest friends saying they're shutting down their Facebook for Parler and giving out their new handles. Once they get there and find they only know 6 real life people on that site, they'll be back on Facebook. Hopefully my FB feed will get a break from the stupidity while they're on vacation

The three things that are certain in life: Death, taxes, and people bitching about the current cast and seasons of SNL. A time honored tradition going back decades.

One of the first things she said, "DAE realize that the media does not decide the winner of the election?" I keep seeing comments like these on Facebook as if it's some revelation. No shit. Is this every Trumptard's first election to watch? The media is not deciding the winner, they are projecting a winner and calling it based on votes counted and where remaining votes will likely end up. They are not sitting in a room certifying the election results. Fucking nobody thinks that.

Fair enough. I'll be surprised if the 2024 GOP nominee isn't a more polished, less unhinged version of Trump, still pushing conspiracies, white nationalism, isolationism, and things that appeal to Trump's base. A Tucker Carlson type, if not Tucker himself who apparently has been encouraged already by some to run.

If Graham didn't lose this election, he's not losing any other until he decides to retire. He's completely safe.

I disagree with you and Lobo. Trump was very much the GOP and will continue to be to the majority of the GOP's voter base. A fringe group didn't get Trump to beat 16 GOP nominees in 2016. Trump for four years had over a 95% approval rating from GOP persons polled. There are now multiple Qanon pushers in the GOP in the House among those gains you made. And finally, multiple people in the GOP absolutely have been defending Trump post election day. Lindsey Graham is giving him money for his legal fund. Ted Cruz is defending him and his conspiracies on TV. The rational moderate Republicans are the overwhelming minority of the GOP, even after Trump is gone. The GOP isn't going back to the party of McCain/Bush/Romney.

"Begun building the wall" was the very first. Should have said "Begun building the wall**" Then at the bottom in fine print - "**replacing where wall already existed."

They're still repeating Trump's claims about voter fraud as if it has merit. Fuck them.

Biden now leads PA by 5,587 votes.

A bunch of comedians are working again. Doing drive-in shows, shows in states with more lax COVID laws to much smaller audiences, etc.

Bow tie? Check. Constipated look on his face? Check. My God, is that Tucker Carlson's kid?

We're going to need a few more Senators.

This keeps getting repeated on this board and it's based on nothing but conjecture. Nobody knows how the election would turn out with a different candidate. Regardless of how it ends, everyone was wrong about how Biden would turn out.

It's not an issue of being "too far left." Joe Biden was one of the most moderate Democrats running. Kamala is certainly not "the most far left person in the Senate" as conservative media outlets have been claiming. That's laughable. A huge problem is that the most watched media network in this country runs a shamelessly open 24/7 campaign for the GOP and has been for the past 2+ decades. Their smears against Democrats stick. Their disinformation campaigns stick. Tucker or Hannity get on TV and say Democrats are evil and here's some made up reasons why, and millions believe it and spread it across social media. Democrats raised a zillion dollars and invested like crazy this campaign. The enthusiasm was off the charts. But as long as we have such a huge percentage of the population that is unreachable and loyal to their team, I'm not sure what the answer is. Foreign owned media like Fox/OAN and disinformation superspreaders like Facebook certainly don't help.

It is great, but between this and all of the fantastic Lincoln Project ads, I've yet to see a single one of them run on TV. Are they not running in this part of the country?

This isn't the riots thread. It's the Joe Biden thread. Greenwald resigned because his editors asked him to make sure claims in his article were backed by facts, otherwise known as basic journalism shit 101. That was apparently a tall order for him, so he took his ball and went home.