My best friend and next-door neighbor's father in law was a Frogman (Vietnam era) and later in the teams. Knowing him well for 40+yrs and being around his friends I can tell you for sure a lot of those boys are pretty seriously broken and yet still high functioning. Based on the stories they would tell (when hammered) if 10% of it is true, it's no wonder they're a bit touched. PTSD for days.
<csb> Just yesterday I was on the phone with that friend and the topic of dogs came up. He mentioned his old dog (who hated men and more particularly inebriated men) I also hated that dog, I'd been bit by that fucker on two separate occasions just out of the blue. His father in law was the only man that dog seemed to tolerate. He told me his father in law came home pissed and a bit roughed up with his "new" dog in tow. Evidently he showed up late to a team party. Everyone was trashed and the dog (who belonged to another team member) was tied to a tree AND a truck. They were drinking and taking bets on what would happen. His father in law took the dog, knocked a few guys out that objected, and left. I'd never heard that story before. I absolutely believe it. I still hate that fucking dog though</csb>