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  1. 11 hours ago, Napoleon said:


    I would say that my LPB is much more Ocean Turquoise than a traditional LPB, but I like it. 

    The aqua marine hints of green give it more life than just being a cold blue with hints a silver shimmer underneath.

    My Squier CV LPB Mustang seems to be more of a traditional LPB.

     

    Nerd Alert:

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    Lake Placid Blue was a metallic finish from Fender, which officially became available as a custom colour on the company's guitars in 1960. The finish was originally achieved with an existing metallic blue car paint, sealed with an acrylic lacquer top coat. The top coat was switched for polyester when traditional style finishes were dropped by Fender in the latter 1960s. However, the look of Lake Placid Blue (often abbreviated to LPB – initially by Fender themselves) came from a single car spray, unlike Candy Apple Red, which was made from two colour stages – a metallic silver or gold colour base layer, coated over with translucent red.

    The clear top coats on all the Fender metallic finishes were crucial. Without them, the high gloss pro finish could not be achieved without destroying the uniformity and effect of the metallic paint as the body was rubbed down. Although most of the non-metallic solid-colour finishes did also have clear top coats, the lacquer wasn’t absolutely necessary with those, and some non-metallic, solid-colour guitars were rubbed down and cut to a high gloss on the paint coats themselves. Such ‘unsealed’ guitars tend not to suffer from progressive yellowing to anything like the extent that clear lacquer-coated guitars do.

    Given the variations in lighting, and the tendency of the photographic process to warp colour, it’s difficult to get an idea on the Internet, or indeed in books, of how a finish precisely looks in reality. However, I’ve made an effort here to ensure the colour in the illustration looks like what I consider the best representation of Lake Placid Blue. I use Adobe Gamma to keep my monitor as near to neutral as possible. But of course, if your monitor has a different colour rendition from mine, you won’t see the precise colour I’m seeing.

    Lake Placid Blue was a fairly subtle shade, which could be described as a darkish blue. However, the metallic nature of the paint meant that changes in the lighting angle would brighten the appearance of the shade – potentially very significantly. What LPB wasn’t, is a rich, royal blue, or a turquoise. It was meant to represent a blue lake, and that’s exactly the type of colour it was.

    The ageing and yellowing of the clear lacquer over the metallic paintwork could turn the finish greenish-blue. In fact, after the effects of ageing, an original Lake Placid Blue could end up almost impossible to distinguish from an Ocean Turquoise – which, confusingly, was actually a deep, greenish-blue, and not a real turquoise. The only way to tell them apart would be to pick away some of the clear top coat beneath the scratchplate around a screw hole. That would reveal the colour of the paint itself, without the yellowed lacquer. As new, the two colours were distinctly different, so with the top coat chipped away in an area not exposed to much daylight, there’d be no doubt which was which.

    It should be stressed that whilst LPB became officially available in 1960, it was not a standard colour option. For Stratocasters, Jazzmasters and Jaguars, the standard finish was sunburst, and custom finishes like Lake Placid Blue cost extra. The Telecaster’s standard finish was blond. The original run for Lake Placid Blue in the Fender paint chart ended in 1973 when Fender completely abandoned metallic and indeed coloured finishes per se. Through the mid 1970s, only black, white, blond and sunburst remained alongside the natural wood options.

    Lake Placid Blue notably returned on Fender’s The Strat – a welcome departure from the late ‘70s Stratocaster, introduced in 1980 and featuring a combination of preferred older features (four-screw neck, small headstock, etc) luxuries like gold-plated hardware, and modern ‘enhancements’. Subsequently, Lake Placid Blue was standardised as a colour for the American ’57 and ’62 Reissue Stratocasters – despite the real ‘57s predating the development of Lake Placid Blue as a car paint.

    Alongside Candy Apple Red, whose history is expored in full in the Candy Apple Red article, Lake Placid Blue remains one of the most famous and best known Fender custom colours. These two finishes kept the original concept of stunningly attractive metallic colours alive for the longest period beyond the CBS era, outlasting Ocean Turquoise, Firemist Gold and Firemist Silver, which were the only other metallics to make it beyond the 'sixties. But since Lake Placid Blue predated the introduction of Candy Apple Red, it has to be considered the overriding stalwart of all original metallic Fender finishes.
     

     

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  2. 29 minutes ago, G650 said:

    I can't remember if this was already posted but this is my kinda dude.

     

     

     

    25 minutes ago, G650 said:

    I can't remember if this was already posted but this is my kinda dude.

     

     

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  3. 9 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

    welp...United has lost the guitar in San Francisco.  I'm sure some baggage handler is having a good time with it.

    I picture an unshaven mountain of a man in a safety vest & eye protection standing on the tarmac atop a mound of lost luggage.  Guitar slung low just shredding the one G&R riff he knows while his coworkers toss bag after bag onto the pile like a ritualistic sacrifice. 

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  4. 9 minutes ago, G650 said:

    Dude sounds insane. Probably sampling the wares.

    Yeah he spent at least 3 minutes flipping through his phone looking for a picture and then apologizing that his cat was also in the picture... (Amp looked pristine from the cat pic)  the whole time this is what I was thinking...

     

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    But ya know a cool amp for dirt cheap?  Accommodations can be made...  I just have no idea if that's even a desirable AMP.   I'd been more thinking of a Roland JC-120 (or smaller)

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  5. Soooooo I was picking up a prescription for my daughter and was talking with my wife about a pc cable for my son' Spark40 amp...   and the pharmacist evidently over hears us and says "hey I'm moving and I have a tube amp that is amazing, it's an Ampeg Reverbrocket 212.  I can't use it at the new apartment.  I'll bring it in tomorrow you can check it out.  I gave my strat to my brother in law and gave up on guitar al together"

    Goes on for a few minute talking it up and basically insisting he bring it into CVS for me to try out?!  

    1. WTF?  Boundries
    2. He said all of that before I got a word in edge wise
    3. Is that a decent AMP?   I'm kind of looking for an AMP but this seems cray cray
    4. I asked him how much he wants for it and he just avoided the question (but he seems really really motivated)
    5. He says I can try it out and that it's OK because he knows where I live

    What say you Shaggites?

  6. 1 hour ago, BoomMF said:

    Well, damn. This is not giving me much confidence. We can put a man on the moon but can't remove some sharpie in 2022? What have we been doing with ourselves as a people?

    Offered him $2200, he replied that the best he could do $2700.

    I'm starting to wonder what I'm willing to live with to get that top because that top fucks.

    Depends on where you put the sharpie

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  7. On 12/5/2022 at 11:59 AM, 'stache said:

    DQ is such a weird brand. Franchising is usually meant to result in a level of uniformity between locations, but DQ is all over the place. In bigger markets they have the DQ Grill and Chill's which are typical fast food type places, pretty indistinguishable from a McDs or BK in their aesthetics. But in small towns they are mostly in shacks, like Home Depot sheds with 40 years of wear and tear, with wall units for AC, and tables that seem second hand, like they were used originally in a McDonalds in the mid '70s. I still dig the steak finger baskets and ice cream though, just a strange company.

     

    Team DQ shack.  There is one a few miles from me that has been there forever and has to be just minting money.  (bar district to the north, big high school just to the south and a park /rec center to the east)  There is usually a line down the sidewalk day or night.

    If I'm getting DQ I don't want fancy or corporate. 

  8. 1 hour ago, noharleyyet said:

    My first good acoustic on the right, a DM...the 28 on the lefts is gone.

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    First good electric bought in 84...Dirty blonde Lollars and Gold guard added recently.

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    I like that you have your own horn section.

     

     

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  9. 35 minutes ago, Goredho said:

     

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    I think maybe I'll give her a guitar shopping day with dad for Christmas.  I have off from Christmas to New Years, so we'll have time to make a fun day of it.  There's a guitar center with both about an hour away.

    That's going to be awesome! 

    I'm all for the spray paint custom art thing, but if you're trying to keep the mods reversible, maybe have this under the tree for her or have her paint white pick guard.

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    Obviously the tele version

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  10. 6 minutes ago, dcbc said:

    I learned a few lessons early on about buying guitars that weren't precisely good and, later, taking a bit of a bath when I realized their quality wasn't what I was after and trying to sell them.  Nowadays, there are examples of getting more for less in the guitar market.  But in the end, the maxim, "Don't buy crap and you'll never have to sell crap," holds.

    There is a lot to that sentiment.   I just can't get past the marginal return issue.  Especially when you are taking about a teen.  A guy I went to school with given an early vintage strat (pre CBS blah blah).  Even back then it was worth more than his car.  He only got to play it when he went home because it was too valuable to take to college.   He is in a "Dad band" now and you know what?  He doesn't play it there either for fear of loss.  Plays a PRS instead.    Not quite the same thing, but now imagine a teen who might want to drag the guitar to school, friends houses, and later to a dorm, put stickers on it, garage relic it... you know act like a teen 

    Now consider the kid might not even play it after 6 months.  I budgeted $600 for guitar and $250 for a practice amp for each of my teens.  It didn't stick with my daughter, but my son is playing off and on and just getting into music.  If he keeps playing and enjoying it a gift down the road might be a nicer American made guitar and tube amp, by then he'll know more of what he wants and probably appreciate it more.

     $1500 for an American Strat and $1000 for an amp is not a huge deal...  but man I got to be true to my Scottish heritage

     

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  11. 10 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


    Have you asked her? Or is this a surprise?

    Because I think you should just give her yours since she likes it anyhow. Then to buy yourself the one you really want.

    I would vote for the Squier CV 60's Tele.  I have the Squier CV tele and a MIM player tele.  The Squier (or at least the one I bought) feels like a much nicer guitar than the MIM Fender.  It just does.  The Fender has nicer electronics if you open it up and look, but honestly the Alpha mini pots feel nicer/smoother than the CTS pots in the MIM Fender and work exactly the same.  The switch is not as nice in the CV, but serviceable.  Will they last? IDK but the pots are $6 bucks a piece and the switch is $10, so that's a problem for future Chad Fuck.

    The one catch is that I would absolutely only buy the Squier used.  You know what you're looking at so you'll be able to get a nice example.  I think I paid $280 (it's pristine) and I don't think it'll ever depreciate from that number.  Use the rest to buy her the nicest amp that fits the remainder of your budget.  I know for a gift that's not as ideal, but you'll know if that would matter to your daughter.  

    If you buy new, I would absolutely get a Fender.  Resale, the name on the head stock, 22 frets, just need a setup (which you could do together with her)

     

    Conversely have you/she thought about a SG?  Small/light/contoured body/thinner shorter neck.  I took my daughter to checkout/try out guitars fully expecting her to choose a strat.  After a solid hour and a half at the store holding/playing everything she could get her hands on the SG was all she wanted because it fit her more comfortably.

     

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  12. 1 hour ago, Deej said:

    Six saddle bridge. You can intonate it very easily. 

    That's the plan.  Going to try and do the setup myself.  Then when it's good and fucked I'll take it in to the shop down the street.

    Also planning on dressing the fret ends.   

    FYI to any Adorama peeps, I opened it up and it has an Oak Grigsby switch and 250k CTS pots, I think that's pretty standard but at least you know they didn't spec it out with cheaper electronics to get the price down.

      

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