Everything posted by Valmy77
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
If it turned out to be something personal and not political at all, that would be a positive development under the circumstances. Might not matter though, the narrative seems set. Eh it is just the hygienist. They probably won't be there long. Just nod and be silent when people say things like this.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
From what I can tell he was a nice enough guy behind closed doors. He was playing a character for money out in public. This situation is extremely disheartening on so many levels. First we have the reality that people are just being shot out in public. Granted that has been a thing for awhile now but damn, you know, you wonder how long public appearances by even C list celebrities are not going to be insane with security. I was only vaguely aware of Charlie Kirk before this. Every once in a while his name would come up because of some particularly terrible way he dodged a good faith point in a debate or some gross thing he said on one of his...shows or whatever he did. But it wasn't like he stood much to me in the vast sea of right wing provocateurs or just general debate bros of any variety. Anybody who is celebrating this or laughing or thinking this somehow does anything positive is delusional. He probably did not even believe half the stuff the said, he was just doing the job that got him paid and there will be plenty more willing to step into his shoes...and even if nobody does there already exist dozens more like him currently out there. I have only condolences to his wife and child and his family. What a terrible thing. From what I have seen Kirk was perfectly kind of leftists behind the scenes but then would be a jerk when doing his schtick. But Kirk himself is far from the upsetting thing here. First the narrative seems to be that he is some kind of martyr for free speech and a principled person, we don't even know why he was killed and by whom. It seems obvious to me he was performing and doing a job. You don't attack leftists publicly like he did and then be kind to them behind the scenes if you mean it. If Vaush or Hasan or some leftist equivalent got gunned down that would be upsetting but I wouldn't expect some great outpouring about what an inspirational hero he was. So that is worrisome. And the narrative seems to be that we leftists like this, that we are laughing at it, that somehow we see this as a win. I don't think that is true for anybody with half a brain, though plenty of morons online don't have half a brain. But it also is just the assumption. We have plenty of people coming in here accusing us, without even quoting anybody or challenging anything in particular, of just that. The fact that no influencer or Democratic politician of any significance is doing that is not even important, that is the narrative. That is dangerous. And on the other hand we have the President outright blaming us for it and delighted that he can use this tragedy to enact his political agenda. It is just bad all the way around. A true shit sandwich in a garbage year. I guess we could go around tone policing every post on the CR to show that we are not, in fact, laughing at this and think it is great but I don't know what different it would make. This is the narrative and it probably doesn't matter what we actually do. If we didn't laugh and celebrate it then some bot on twitter would and it would be quoted to get everybody riled up. It is hard not to feel hopeless. Anyway sorry you got negged @Macklemore, I had nothing to do with it.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Well you distorted what they were doing and told them to go fuck themselves. Was that intended to be a diplomatic statement designed to generate thoughtful discussion?
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Well this is a sad time. I certainly hope I am not treating my fellow man badly. I just want a place to talk about these things. Good luck out there. Where is this place where everybody is kind to each other?
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Oh are we doing this bullshit now? Look I am not saying nobody on the Internet is acting like a sociopath but insisting a significant percentage is celebrating is bullshit. There is nothing good about this.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Watch it just be some nut. Those TV idiots don't know shit about fuck.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
The what do what now?
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Dude. We didn't do anything.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
They don't even know who killed him, much less the motive.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Baylor has to apologize for something said by one random student?
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
This is all in the moment. The way things are now he might be forgotten soon as the next outrage du jour occurs. We'll see.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Do the countries who have success with gun control limiting gun crime somehow have much better law enforcement than we do? They certainly don't have fewer drugs...
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Ah. Sorry @Wilcox Cummingtonite hope things turn around for you.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
It's fucking stupid anyway if you think about it for 10 seconds. You can't have a country based on thoughts. People change their thoughts.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Huh? Ok...good one?
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
But they are just randos for the most part. Nobody of significance.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Well said Mr. Governor. Kind of refreshing. He doesn't even know who the fuck killed him.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
No it can't be.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
That is just nuts. Does anybody actually count organized crime conflicts as mass shootings? What a dishonest way to hijack a discussion. But I guess it doesn't matter now.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
I mean sorry the dude died but...really? Did they do that for those Minnesota politicians?
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
If the Trump assassins are anything to go by, it is probably some nutjob conspiracy theorist from their side who lost his marbles and started seeing his former heroes as actually in on it or something.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Are you implying TexAgs shot Charlie Kirk?
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
Yeah. No way any prominent Democrats are cheering this. Despite what @Wilcox Cummingtonite claims, who is going to murder us all in our beds. Despite not producing one example of a Democratic official or prominent media member doing that. He probably just saw his drunk uncle's post and started planning mass murder. They don't even know who the killer is.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
I mean fair enough. Just whether it is my or your band of thugs who constitutes the government of this country. At least last time there was a reason for it.
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Charlie Kirk got ded, Erika Kirk grifts in place
The Civil War talk is such nonsense. What would we even be fighting over?