BevoAbyss

These are thoughts of the "Undecideds" .... "I can't decide how to justify my vote for Trump 'cause I know he's is a lying piece of shit ..... and Kamala seems smart and capable .... but deep down I feel I can't trust any woman of color president... don't want browns swarming into America and taking jobs... don't want gays walking around grooming my kid... don't want to sacrifice jobs to protect the environment... don't want socialized health-care... and want to do what my preacher says it right by the Bible... Guess I gotta vote Trump. Even though Kamala is smart and talented and seems nice." 99% of the "Undecideds" are full-of-crap BS artists and doublethinking fascist enablers. It's absurd that the media can't see this and then treats them like some kind of super-intellectuals about the election.

I get where you are coming from. But, "self-interest" goes beyond economics, money, and $$$. For MAGA and Fundagelicals, it is in their religious self-interest to have the government shove the Bible down everyone's throat, to outlaw abortion, to stop vaxxing, ban books, etc. Bottom line, MAGA is voting their "self-interest" -- their religious self-interest. And they are ready to shove it down the collective throat of America. Even if it crashes the economy.

I second that take. Great memories from Paris. Had a paid summer gig in London in early 1990s, back when I was young and pretty. Spent most every weekend (Friday-Sunday) taking train into Paris, staying at B&B, and just wandering into cafes, coffeehouses, bars, art galleries. Amazingly, a surprising amount of French chicks loved talking/drinking/partying with a dude from Texas! Especially a dude who wore black cowboy boots, kinda skinny jeans, and had actually read Jean-Paul Sartre. Viva la France!

This is a classic example of doublethink. Orwell's brilliant insight: Believing that two opposite propositions are both true at the same time, or claiming a surface issue is true ... to mask what you know is the deeper issue of truth.) Says 90% of MAGA it is not about racism, then lists tons of racist examples. Consider last two paragraphs. -- Mentions Army person in Iraq. Ignores that War in Iraq was racist and religious war. -- Vote Hard R to handle the Hispanics (obviously through deportation, though not mentioned) -- The entire gated community armed to the teeth is premised in racism. Dude: Think deeper and more clearly. It's good for ya. MAGA supporters are full-on racists.

This for all the Bush-loving conservatives in here, especially the Texans: I have a question for you in the aftermath of Trump proposing a firing squad for Liz Cheney -- the daughter of his VP? Where is W on this? What isn't he denouncing Trump, right now. What's he waiting on? Where's your Texas hero? Just wondering...

Trump basically called for Liz Cheney's assassination. How can anyone on this board not realize that the holy New York Times enables fascism, and has been for decades during the rise of Tea Party and MAGA? The NYT "brave" endorsements mean next to nothing when this propaganda and news-spinning is happening 24/7/365.

I got news for ya: Your friends are fascists. It's 100% obvious. Why are you friends with them?

I got some news for ya: At this point, there is a better explanation other than clicks and eyeballs. I'm betting there are lot of MAGA-friendly people working in the media who don't mind Trump winning. That means they are fascists or fascist enablers.

I got some news for ya: Your "partners" are fascists. A vote for Trump-MAGA is a vote for fascism. That voter is a fascist! End of Story. I'm sorry, but time's up for offering excuses and apologia for friends, families, and co-workers.

Hey privileged internet tough guy dude .... go tell that to all the women and minorities who will be utterly oppressed by Trump-MAGA Christian fascist regime. Hell, some of us make a living in public settings, speak out, and the fear is real of a MAGA regime. Careers can be destroyed. This country is in big fucking trouble. That ain't defeatist. That's a fucking fact. Nikki Haley ain't saving the day. MAGA and the fascists ain't going away. Even if you are not impacted by the MAGA regime. Mass deportation might well crash the economy, slashed health care will kill 1000s or more.... women are fleeing for their lives.....but you ain't no defeatist baby.

With Trump, it's never not been this. World Wrestling Federation is his starter base. He used to attend the big matches and walk in like a bad ass celeb gangsta. There's a very old video about this somewhere in YouTube. The spectacle, the posing, the preening, the heckling, the evil villains, and hero wrestlers, the fact that every wrestler breaks the rules, gang up on single wrestler, etc. That's Trump. The idiocy of all that perfectly symbolizes MAGA.... who are then exploited by the billionaires and Bible thumpers.

That Dog Comic video is just one of millions of examples of our public education and news media systems -- however flawed -- being utterly overwhelmed by the mass idiocy produced by decades of TV, social media, creationism, Hollywood sci-fi ... and virtually no real science or astronomy. Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class) ... successful art/design consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump. Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. I'm not joking!!! i'm a life-long single never married dude. Thus, I traffic in crowds that often have lots of singles (artsy-fartsy art, design, fashionista world). I have heard the craziest crap, and much of it from liberal chicks and dudes... most of whom I presume vote D... but can't be certain. Let me tell ya... It's nuts galore out here.

Yeah, he would. The only difference now is now he can state it loudly, proudly, out in the open. He took communion on the moon after all ... a complete insult to the science and technology that got Armstrong and Aldrin to the moon. It's all doublethink. He was most likely a Nixon supporter. F him.

So ole Buzz is a fascist, after all. Just like Elon, who he praises in the Tweet. Fuck Buzz, Elon, and any one else involved with NASA for supporting Trump.

There are millions of dudes like "Jared" in America. MILLIONS. Spoiled middle-aged white pricks who carry the water for MAGA and Trump. They are pathetic. I know one. Or should I say, I once knew one. A dude and friend I knew from UT. Middle class family. Great parents. But he was fucking spoiled! Oh, he worked and studied hard, but man did he feel self-entitled to everything he desired (Trigger warning 1). Was also New Wave. Loved Devo, The Cars, The Pretenders. And a generally fun dude who was also a player with the ladies. Also, a Libertarian (Trigger warning 2). We eventually lost touch for more than two decades. Out of nowhere, he tracks me down via social media. He's now twice divorced, two kids. I mention that I am headed to LA for business that summer. He invites me to his big ass beach pad outside San Diego. He's made a lot money, worth $14 million (for real). So, I take the bait and buzz down for a visit, top down on the convertible rent car. Great drive. This is late summer 2016, the election is in full gear. As I drive up, I see a Trump sign in his yard. He comes running out the door "I know you saw the sign, let's go get some tequila and tacos and we can discuss politics and economics." So we head to chic hipster place for tacos and tequila. Great food and drink. Fantastic. Many hot 25-50 year old Cali women. As we eat, drink and enjoy the talent, he spews out the biggest line of BS for supporting Trump. Unbelievable leaps in logic, absent facts. Hillary was coming for his money, was going to install SOCIALISM, would crash the stock market -- and he WOULD LOSE HIS $$$$ and BEACH MANSION. Because of socialism! He did not give a shit about the environment, climate catastrophe, the racism of Trump-MAGA. Only that which he thought might threaten his money and beach pad. Socialism! He literally believed that a vote for Trump was needed to save his fucking beach pad. He was dead serious. Believed that Hillary and Dems were coming for guys like HIM. They are coming for HIM and his way of life. It was literally insane. His eyes were bugging out at times. When I told eventually him (friendly manner) that his imagination was kinda going off the rails with regard to facts and logic, he got pissed. Then trashed one of my books, he claimed he read, and then crudely insulted one of my other more creative works. So I told him to fuck off. I picked up the damn check (didn't want to a lazy poor libtard) ... stood up ... turned and told him to never contact me again ... he said something under his breath and headed for the door ....and I walked over to the smoky brunette at the bar who gave me smile. TLDR Fuck these spoiled entitled dudes who support Trump-MAGA.

He said he's "a Christian" -- there's your answer.

They haven't abandoned their values. The MAGA worldview expresses their values. At least as the MAGA worldview emerged over the past 40 years since Reagan. Bottom line: They are voting for what they believe, for what they are, for the world they want.

Better yet. Imagine UT trails by 5 in the national championship game, with 45 seconds left in the game. Longhorns have the ball on the opponent's 10-yard line, with a first down, 4 shots to win, with QE as QB and Sark calling the plays. Plus, we all remember the Washington game last year. Speaking for myself, I have near-zero confidence Texas scores to win the title. (If VY is the QB, I am 100% confident and already celebrating the title.)

Pretty sure that Trump-Musk-MAGA-fascist Nazi rally puts the lie to the wise ole Surly lawyers telling us the legal system works, albeit slowly. Lulz. Trump, a Nazi fascist, is walking all over the legal system. I'll believe it when I see it ... if any legal justice is served to Trump and the Jan 6 ringleaders. Sorry, but I always thought the Surly law dogs couldn't see the towering fast-growing fascist forest for the trees.... they are too busy discussing the lawful and most appropriate use of a chainsaw that meets all forestry specifications.

Pretty sure there's a book of Hitler speeches. I think I saw one at Half-Price books when Iived in Austin. Might be available online somewhere.

And 99% of the football Surly-BON posters love being in the SEC SEC SEC. It's a fucking fascist confederacy conference. I'll say it: Fuck Eltife, Hartzel, and, yeah, CDC, too, for cheerleading that shit. Of course, Fuck Aggy, too.

For the record, I have been offering similar warnings and observations about the collapse and trends -- for over two decades, just not in Surly, but often in public forums/settings/etc. Almost everyone (98%) was in denial and most probably still are. Welcome to American Exceptionalism. FAFO. And now the Christian-fascist-nazi theocracy is here. That's why I'm over the ledge.... past brisket!

My blood runs back very far in deep time, to about 9 billion years ABB (After the Big Bang). -- That's when the solar system was formed from a supernova, an exploding star that spawned the ingredients for me to exist and be alive.

The Ivy League grad as "elite thinkers" is the perhaps most overrated bullshit in the history of America. And they have fooled America for centuries. Political leaders from the Ivy League have done more political and international damage to America than leaders from all other universities combined. All because they think they "know better ... are smarter (etc.)" than the rest of us. I spent some time in Corporate America (three decades ago) and had to work on some projects with many Ivy Leaguers. They were fucking elitist privileged Frat/Sorority types who had zero business or creative sense and had their position on because of the degree. Just corporate drones. Yet thought they were capitalist geniuses! To say they smugly and arrogantly looked down on UT grads (or anyone from a state university) might be an understatement. Fuck that and fuck the Ivy League.