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Agree. One key problem is the TV news anchors/hosts are TV personalities, first and foremost — not trained critical thinkers. TV anchors/hosts spend far more time on make-up, appearances, apparel, and TV speaking skills. So there is little time spent honing critical analysis skills or deep reading of any history, such as Naziism, to see the clear parallels to 2025 and Mein Kampf. And they sure as hell ain’t blaming anything on Christianity-Fascism running amok. The anchors are simply not informed enough or skilled enough, so all they can do is point out the obvious hypocrisies and little else. Plus, there are rules of softball questions, no confrontation, no serious challenges, etc. Meanwhile, for the Christian Fascists, the rules are being annihilated. The gloves are off for them, yet TV anchors still treat it like a friendly legit policy disagreements. That’s why they will never tell the Heritage Dude that he is fascist theocrat and favors the violent domination of society. Step one. You can never concede the moral high ground to Christian fascists on TV, or anywhere else. And you can never let them ignore their violent bloody history. Time’s up, time to play hardball, it is not 100% too late already. Questions that will never be posed in American mass/TV media: — I thought these up in five minutes, would make them more polished with time. Q. You stated you believe America is God’s Country and was ordained by God to be Christian nation. So that can only that mean your God approved of the mass murder of millions of Indigenous peoples by Christians after Columbus arrived. How is that not the case? Q. The first line in the First Amendment clearly stats there shall be no establishment of religion? Can you not comprehend that? Or are you just a liar and propagandist for imposing a violent theocracy? Q. How long have you been a fascist theocrat in love with guns, violence, and the brutal domination of women, immigrants, and gay people? Q. How many scientists, educators, and atheists will you throw in jail for disputing your ignorant anti-science policies? Q. History clearly suggests that mass deportations lead to mass killing. After all, the Christians murdered millions of Native Americans to steal the land that is America … and the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews in the name of the Aryan myth. When will MAGA start the violence and mass slaughter in the name of White Christian America? If an anchor asked these kinds of questions on national TV, the Christian MAGA outrage would be EPIC. The New York Times would denounce the host and network. The TV network would instantly capitulate, the host would be fired, and face death threats for years. Might be even be thrown in jail for blasphemy, because those laws are coming. Ain’t no company, CEO, or university leader in this country openly standing up to Christian Fascism and their BS propaganda. None. That’s why we are fucked big time.

Sadly, it will not matter who takes the lead for the Democrats. That’s because the Dems will never ever confront — in any serious way — the most broken and malignant segment of American consciousness, which is infecting politics and every aspect of culture. And that malignancy is Christian Fascism. Because they believe “God" has their back with a divine plan for America, they are empowered with arrogance and ignorance on epic scales, which fuels the racism, hatred, and complete idiocy and anti-science nonsense. Oh, sure, billionaires and corporate corruption are significant problems, but they are in second place. And the rich are often empowered by the same Christian fanatics, such as those that worship Trump. Dems will criticize the ultra rich, but not the ultra religious. As Catholics, AOC and Newsom ain’t taking on religion in any meaningful way. Instead, they and the Dems meekly complain about the political symptoms of Christian Fascism, not the disease. It’s like treating a broken leg with an Ace bandage and Bayer aspirin. Or like treating cancer with Advil or Codeine. Sure, the pain may be reduced and you’ll feel temporarily better, but ya still got a broken leg or cancer. As a consequence of the permanent free pass, the Christian Fascists realize no one in media or culture will stand up to them on any fundamental level. Hence, they are making a play for total power in a theocracy — and are on the verge of seizing it and backing it with violence. These aren’t fake Christians, as history has repeatedly shown. When they have a chance for total power, they’ll take it and impose it with vengeance.

Wow. Thanks for sharing. Your scenario is spot on. I was not aware of any of those plans for attacking cartels or Mexico. My suggestion of MAGA attacking Mexico just seemed like a logical deduction from Trump-MAGA racism and propaganda. There’s a lot of Surly posters and Americans who are in utter denial about how violent and bloody this country will be under a Trump-2025 Plan regime.

This is not Fox News story. But interesting ... Yesterday, I received an email with link to survey from MSNBC asking my view of Rachel Maddow’s show and other MSNBC shows. — As part of my reply, I wrote that I thought Rachel Maddow and MSNBC journalists should use the terms fascism, theocracy, and dictatorship to describe Trump, MAGA, and their plans for America. Not mere “Republican” or “conservative." — Within two minutes, I received an email saying I had been unsubscribed from the MSNBC lists. Apparently, there are some terms that cannot be said. So much for liberal media commitment to reporting reality. Same with Beto and the Dems. This is textbook Orwell thought control for the Party Elite. And that’s why we’re screwed.

Nope. Like all fascists, totalitarians, and Christian warriors, MAGA will totally celebrate a foreign conquest and military victory. After all, the Nazis were “nationalists" …. until they weren’t … and invaded Europe. For MAGA: Let’s say, for example, taking on the cartels south of the border … and, just to be sure … take all of Mexico to completely stop the flow of drugs and immigrants. What better way to secure our border. Mexico would quickly surrender/collapse in the face of Pentagon power. MAGA and the Christians-Catholics could establish a proxy government in Mexico City, but run from the US. MAGA would have parades far and wide. Church bells ringing across America. The media would largely celebrate it, too. It would be like when Reagan invaded Grenada (1980s) and the GOP went bananas with love and adoration. Only exponentially more with Trump in the White House.

With all due respect, you are incorrect. Atom, you’re a good poster. But, you and many other Surly posters — I guess from mostly McCombs and the corporate/capitalist world — need to realize humans are not 100% economic minded. Far from it. What do Harlan Crow and West Texas billionaires have in common with MAGA fanatics living in trailer parks? It’s not fucking loads of money or fear of hunger. — It’s a hard-core belief in God and Christianity, racism, and fear of leftist wokeism. That’s their great fear … not finding a loaf of bread in the Great Depression. — That’s why cultural similarities are far more important, as mentioned in my original post. It does not matter that Germans had economic hardship and MAGA doesn’t much of any. What does matter are the endless cultural fears and grievances … the heavily Christian followers, the racism, the belief "my country is being taken by immigrants,” the belief "woke is grooming my kids.”…. It’s the idiot world culture (Q, conspiracy, astrology, pseudoscience, etc.), the combo of ignorance and arrogance. … It’s the belief in a Great Leader, the belief that God has their back in a Great Destiny of Christian Cultural Purity. That’s why, with no economic hardship, MAGA is still fucking seizing power across America. They are establishing a fascist theocracy, gutting schools, banning books, and targeting pregnant women, LGBTQIA, immigrants and promising deportations. … They are celebrating and posing with automatic weapons, attacking all kinds of established sciences, putting 10 Commandments in classes, openly telling everyone they will establish a CHRISTIAN DICTATORSHIP in Project 2025. None of this has to do with economic hardship. We’re not in a Great Depression and yet fascism is on the march and seizing power, in Texas and across America. Look beyond economics. It’s the cultural environments all around us, right before our eyes.

Dang, I left out other NAZI-MAGA parallels: — Hitler and Trump were first elected without majority votes. — NAZI and MAGA faced weak opposition parties who failed to see the dire threat posed by Hitler/Trump, their ideologies, and fanatical followers. Until it was too late. — NAZI and MAGA implore women to have more babies for the "greatness of the nation." — There was a rapid expansion of both arts and sciences, which NAZI and MAGA both despise and denounce. — Hitler and Trump had true-believe artists depicting them as masculine, manly men, badass warriors to lead the violent cultural purge. I am sure there are more.

It boggles my mind that so many Surly posters and the mainstream media cannot see the 100% obvious parallels between the Nazis and MAGA. I know few will read this, but here are the parallels. No excuses. 1. Similar culture from which emerged Nazis and MAGA. -- We know about the German economic woes after WW1. But that’s only part of it. -- But both NAZIS and MAGA emerge in culture steeped in Christian religion, conspiracy theory, pseudoscience, astrology, widespread idiotic superstitions, yearning for a past of mythic purity, etc. All amid a culture experiencing rapid technological change. 2. Great Leaders: A failed artist and failed businessman NAZI-HITLER: Trash-talking failed artist enters politics. -- Seen as fringe loser. -- Few take him seriously. — Still builds fanatical following. MAGA-TRUMP: Trash-talking failed businessman enters politics. -- Seen as conman celeb, TV star. -- Few take him seriously. — Still builds fanatical following. 3. Great Leaders: Attempt failed coup/insurrection. NAZI-HITLER: Hitler attempts a violent coup that fails. -- Hitler is tried, tossed in jail, writes Mein Kampf, released from jail. -- Hero to the Nazis. -- Seen as brainy, virile, tough guy MAGA-TRUMP: Trump cheerleads an attempted violent insurrection. -- Televised live on TV to the world. -- Mainstream media call the event a “riot.” -- Trump is not prosecuted and remains total hero to MAGA. -- Seen as clever, manly man, tough guy. 4. Great Leader: Long rambling speeches, claim to make nation great again. NAZI-HITLER: Claim they will Make Germany Great Again (MGGA). -- Hitler gives long, rambling speeches at rallies and via radio. -- Nazis will retrieve and promote the “Aryan Man,” the pure and true German destined to rule for a 1000 Year Reich. -- These myths are celebrated and worshipped by the patriots, the “good people,” the true Germans. -- Install National Socialist-Fascist regime. MAGA-TRUMP: Claim they will Make America Great Again (MAGA). -- Trump gives long, rambling, incoherent speeches are rallies and via TV-social media. -- MAGA will save and promote the “Christian Man,” the pure and true American destined to rule the nation till the Rapture. -- These myths are celebrated and worshipped by the the patriots, the “good people,” the good Americans. -- Install Christian-Fascist regime, with a puritan theocracy as a bonus horror. 5. Identify enemies to blame. NAZI-HITLER: Central enemy: Jews. Secondary enemies: Communists, leftist intellectuals, modern artists, gays, etc. MAGA-TRUMP: Central enemy: Immigrants. Secondary enemies: people of color, LGBTQIA, leftists, educators, liberated women, various sciences/scientists, medical workers, environmentalists, etc. 6. Take control of courts and media; impose regimes of censorship. NAZI-HITLER: Nazis judges give favorable rulings to make all the Nazi/fascism “legal.” -- Nazi-friendly media crank out the fascist propaganda; other media eventually become compliant and go along. -- Censorship widespread. Book burnings. MAGA-TRUMP: MAGA judges give favorable rulings to make all the MAGA/fascism “legal.” -- MAGA-friendly media crank out the fascist propaganda (Fox, OAN, social media). -- Mainstream media, which enabled the takeover, eventually become compliant and go along. Hell, they will barely use the words “fascism” or theocracy to describe reality. -- Impose regimes of censorship; ban books in libraries, will ban porn and much more speech/expression. -- No doubt, book burnings are coming. 7. Get widespread business support. NAZIS-HITLER: Give huge contracts to industrialists, tax breaks. MAGA-TRUMP: Give huge contracts to industrialists, tax breaks, subsidies. 8. Take control of police, military, national law enforcement. NAZI-HITLER: Took control of military rather quickly, then took the police, secret police, and built Gestapo. -- Did various purges as needed to insure loyalty. MAGA-TRUMP: They will take control of the police and local LEO rather quickly, especially rural areas. The military will eventually follow. -- Bureaucratic purges, LEO-Military takeovers are part of the 2025 Plan. 9. Demonize, deport enemies. NAZI-HITLER: Demonize enemies such that they are deported to camps, their businesses and property seized by the Nazis and citizens. MAGA-TRUMP: Demonize enemies such that they are deported to camps along the border and elsewhere. -- This is part of 2025 plan. 10. Begin widespread violence, mass death. NAZI-HITLER: Begin the Final Solution, administered by the good and patriotic Germans. Six million Jews are murdered. Unknown quantities of secondary enemies are executed, worked to death. MAGA-TRUMP: Mass shootings galore, guns celebrated, politicians posing with weapons of mass death. -- What violence will follow the deportations, we do not know yet. 11. Invade nations, start war. NAZIS-HITLER: Invade Europe, Russia. Start WW2. 50-60 million die. Europe lay in ruins. MAGA-TRUMP: Invade, war? -- Would we be surprised if MAGA-Trump invaded northern Mexico “to stop the the flow drugs and immigrants” ? -- Or started shipping weapons to Russia so they can invade more of liberal, secular decadent Europe? -- If war breaks out in Europe, how can a fascist America even be the “good guys”? 12: High Noon for Worldwide Destruction and Catastrophe? TLDR: The NAZI-MAGA parallels are real. If Trump-MAGA get in power, the Nazi parallels will become self-evident. As Orwell said. "He who controls history … also controls the future.”

Trump needs his ass kicked, not a stroke. — If he dies, Nikki Haley replaces him, wins presidency because it is easy to vote R for many “conservatives," and project 2025 gets implemented as planned by the fascists. Let me tell you the legendary battle of "Post Toasty" v. "Hot Rod Robby.” A fist fight behind the suburban high school gym in Big D. About 6 feet tall and skinny, Steve Post was a shy, quiet unassuming kid, who tried to hang out with artsy fartsy crowd. He was kinda of a loner and flakey, this earning nick name “Post Toasty” (after the cereal with flakes). Hot Rod Robby Smith was the proto spoiled (kinda) rich suburban kid. 5’10, good looking, great hair, drove a cool Vette very fast, player with the ladies. A nonstop smart ass who teased/mocked guys below his upper-middle class status. But, we never saw him in a fist fight. Somehow, he never had a challenger. He was sort of a “Kevin" before there was such a thing. Would have been MAGA for sure. (Note: I changed the first names on Post and Smith). For some reason, Hot Rod Robby started picking on Post Toasty…. repeatedly. Us dudes suggested he lay off the quiet kid and wondered what was in the mind of Post Toasty, who took the BS without saying much. Until one day. Post Toasty had enough of Hot Rod's BS. No one was sure as to what triggered him. But he told Hot Rod to meet him behind the gym during lunch. Hot Rod gave the appearance of being happy to surely pummel Post Toasty. About 20-25 dudes formed a circle around the two fighters. A few chicks were there, too. Hot Rod was laughing at the beginning … until he landed two solid gut punches that had ZERO effect on Post Toasty. Uh oh. Suddenly, Post Toasty was delivering a flurry of punches all over Hot Rod’s torso and face. Hot Rod fell to the ground and Post Toasty jumped on and kept delivering until we pulled him off. Those long skinny arms generated a lot of force. Hot Rod was pretty much KO'’d. Blood oozed from Hot Rod’s nose and mouth. He had two black eyes. He had his fucking ass kicked, yugely! Moral of the story: Hot Rod Robby was humiliated, lost all badass cred, was widely laughed at, and was never seen picking on any dudes. Did not want to get his ass kicked again. Post Toasty was an instant legend …. earned 1000% respect from all the dudes … soon came out of shell … became a player with the creative chicks. After all, word soon spread that Post Toasty was a badass dude who happened to like art. He could have been student body prez if he wanted. 2024 Election: No one has ever punched out Trump the bully wimp. If Biden did it, his cred would skyrocket past the Voyager space craft outside the solar system … and he would win in a landslide. Of course, it won’t happen. But that does not mean it shouldn’t happen.

My fave scenario for the “debate” … If they meet to shake hands, Biden decks Trump with a left to the fat belly, right hand to the fake tough guy jaw. And towering over the fallen Trump, Biden yells, “That’s for all the lies. Get up you fascist. I am gonna kick your ass." Since Trump is a just spoiled bully wimp, he would not dare challenge Biden. He would just start whining still on his knees. Biden walks off the stage. Age, fitness questions answered. Re-elected in a landslide.

You're likely very correct. Could be very bad for some industries/corporations. And Trump-MAGA-Fox News will somehow blame it on Biden/Democratic/liberal policies … and on woke wimps stacking fruit at Whole Foods and slacker soyboys steaming the lattes at Starbucks and loser leftists majoring in art on college campuses … when if they were True Texas Men … they would be macho hard-working roofers, bricklayers, concrete pourers, veggie pickers, etc. They will absolutely blame it on Libruls making men soft. Might even suggest forced work camps to train True Texas Men for real jobs requiring true work. As for all the other corporations not affected, they won’t give a shit … as long as they get the 10% tax breaks, increased profits, corporate bonuses, etc.

Thanks for the agreement. I wish you were correct here. But, alas, the corporations and capitalists are already sucking up to Trump, according to the Wall Street Journal. And it is not just Elon fanboys. — Sadly, it’s obvious Corporate America doesn’t give a shit about immigration … women’s reproductive rights … BLM … LGBTQIA … the environment … science … or anything else … if there is a chance at a 10% tax break or increase in profits. — They will align with fascism and theocracy as needed. They will fucking celebrate a dictatorship to make more profit, not unlike the industrialists and corporations in Nazi Germany. Silicon Valley tech bros will gladly create surveillance tech to track immigrants and women seeking abortions if it means more profit. — Hell, Corporate America gladly build the trains to haul immigrants to the border and build the catapults to launch them over the Rio Grande. I would suggest the SEC celebration at UT is indicative of where things will go with the MAGA-GQP takeover of Texas and America — Complete and total celebration. Aggy level shit. — Even lighting up the Tower to celebrate joining the Confederate Conference. Going backwards in the 21st Century, presented as progress! Speaking for myself, fuck Eltife, Hartzell and CDC for this crap. This is how fascism seizes power and total control.

Once MAGA-GQP seize full control of Texas and America, it will be like Nazi Germany in terms of public images/symbols. Except instead of swastikas and Nazi flags everywhere, it will be MAGA-Christian crosses/symbols and flags everywhere. Not doubt, Texas will lead the way. — Small local businesses with have crosses/symbols on their doors and windows. (I am sure some already do.) — Dallas/Houston skyscrapers will have crosses on the side or top. Some will fly a MAGA-Christian flag next to Texas or US flag. NASA will be forced to display a cross. — The Oil Derrick at Six Flags in Arlington will have a cross/flag. So will Jerry World and Globe park. — Some firms will display a cross (or symbol) next to their logo. Better yet, just incorporate cross into their logo. — Companies that frowned upon Pride flags will fly the MAGA-Christian flags, no questions asked. Total true believers, even in the corporate world, will proudly wear lapel pins with MAGA-Christian symbols. The newly created “Trump Youth” (a la Hitler Youth) programs will have kids sporting MAGA-Christian stuff. The capitol building in Austin will have Christian/MAGA flags. — Already, the capital grounds already have the Ten Commandments on display and the Supreme upheld that in 2005. Just wait, it’s coming. And Texas will lead the way.

UT Austin going full MAGA … SEC SEC SEC out front should have told ya. Lulz to anyone who thought it was only about “big boy” football.

That's fantastic! Once you grasp the science of evolution/expanding universe, you realize there is no need for a God for anything. The awe and wonder is not religious, but is a deeply aesthetic feeling: the sublime! Philosophers have written about it for centuries. Many Surly posters would greatly benefit from going to a Star Party at UT’s McDonald Observatory. I've been many times. A truly awe-inspiring wondrous experience. And I have former high school friends who are messed up and steeped in all that evangelical nonsense and "God is speaking to us……” Troph: Your profound courage and attitude are 100% badass! You have my complete and total admiration!

Reading all these Evangelical stories and inherent hypocrisy-insanity-prejudice …. makes me realize how lucky I was growing up. Just damn lucky that the cosmic dice rolled in my favor with the parents I had. I’ve said this before in Surly, last year. DAD: My dad was middle class, went to UT on the GI Bill after serving in the Navy during the Korean War. Was agnostic and later atheist, though not outspoken or an activist at all. He saw a nuclear bomb test in the South Pacific and one outside Vegas ….thought nukes and war were basically nuts. No sign of a benevolent God anywhere to stop the horror. Dad never set foot in a church except for funerals. MOM: My mom grew up poor on a small farm in Central Texas. Had high school education. Met my dad in a jazz dive bar in Austin when he was at UT. She loved all things “Texas," was God-fearing, but did not trust any preachers or ministers — thought they were all con men. Loathed those "TV preachers." She never went to church except for weddings and funerals. Our family never went to church. Never! We never discussed "God, Jesus, religion, sin," etc. As a consequence, my brother and I were never indoctrinated into all that religious myth and superstition. First and foremost: we were taught to be honest, work hard, get an education, always be learning, and treat everyone with respect. It’s worked so far. (Sadly, my successful O&G brother went MAGA, because "Biden is gonna shut down Texas oil!" But at least he has not brought up religion). By the time I was 20-21, I was atheist. I was an avid philosophy reader. My mind was never constrained with the fear, guilt, hate, and all-knowing deity hocus-pocus. My parents were not perfect, later divorced. But still … damn lucky, I was. PS: Though my mom thought all preachers/ministers were con men, she always voted R …. until Trump showed up. She thought Trump was a con man, just like preachers! So mom did not vote for Trump and that makes me damn proud. She passed away in 2019.

I assume you are referring to Nietzsche’s famed quote. In my view, it cannot be understand outside his most important concepts (IMHO). Nietzsche was wise enough to realize that Galileo/Darwin/evolution made irrelevant the need for any God to explain our existence in a vast and ancient universe, as unveiled by science and telescopes. He saw that the wonders of industrialization (electricity, steam engines, etc) also made God irrelevant to the emerging powers of human-created technology. Hence, his phrase "God is dead.” And because God is dead … due to evolution, science, technology… humanity found itself to be a “rope over an abyss” … astride the abyss between the ape and the superman (the next phase of human evolution). No, not some Aryan or Marxist Superman or Superman-Superhero. Just next major phase of philosophical evolution. It seems clear to me that Nietzsche knew that secular philosophy faced a huge challenge to finding meaning and purpose for humanity — now dislodged from the center of the universe. A universe ancient, from which we evolved, a universe vast in which we are not central. So, here we are 130 years later, and Nietzsche’s challenge has yet to be met, at least with regard to a popular secular narrative that unites the human species with meaning and purpose in the scientific universe — to span the abyss into the next phase of human evolution. Secularism has delivered a planetary Consumer Society … while Science-Fiction, Superheroes, Star Trek, Star Wars, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk (etc.) are our alleged guides to the secular future in a vast universe. Naturally, religion/theology also sees the abyss …. and utterly terrified of being insignificant and non-central … promises a narcissistic return to cosmic centrality and eternity for the believers …the supposed “good people” … along with the mass violence of fascism and theocracy imposed on the non-central, non-special, non-good people. TLDR: So far, secular philosophy has yet to deliver that widely popular narrative to get us over the abyss. Thus, the abyss is there and we are staring into it… and we see our lack of philosophy in it. We’re still astride the abyss. (BevoAbyss is happy there and works toward a sane secular future in his career. I’m out of this discussion, it’s going nowhere, same old stuff as usual)

Sorry dude, you’re 100% incorrect. I am sure some theists say that to pretend their creationist fables have merit in the 21st century universe unveiled by NASA and the world’s scientists. The Big Bang is based on the best available empirical evidence gathered from the world’s most powerful telescopes across 100 years. (I am confident we will eventually discover what existed prior to … or caused … the Big Bang. And it won’t be an invisible Sky Daddy.) If by “some might argue," you mean scientists and astrophysicists … well they are incorrect … as most scientists/astrophysicists are utterly weak-ass philosophers who would benefit mightily from some basic courses in existentialist philosophy (esp, Sartre’s irrefutable ontology), philosophy of science, logic, etc. But, alas, secular philosophy has marginalized itself into irrelevance. Hence the dominance of religion. As for God: Humans created God (or any Creator) with absolute zero empirical evidence. Pure invention in a pre-scientific era.

Exactly. That’s why the first line in the First Amendment says: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion …" That means … and can only mean … freedom from religion precedes freedom of religion. Regarding the Bill of Rights … freedom from religion has primacy and is the ultimate starting point … for any freedom in America, including religious freedom. Of course, all those Bible-thumping constitutionalist “originalists” will conveniently ignore this original line to justify building their theocracy.

The Bible is a bunch of myths and fables … written in a tribal, pre-scientific era … for people to colonize and conquer others … to get meaning and purpose for their tribe and self … and feel good about it … and pretend they will live as a spirit-ghost for eternity. There has never been any evidence for Genesis 1:1. Never. And never will be. Humans created God in their own image.

With all due respect, the supposed “nuance" does not explain away the stats in those tables. That data is not same random snapshot of idiocy in America. Richard Hostadter wrote about anti-intellectualism in the 1960s. Carl Sagan warned us of anti-science, pseudoscience, and rising stupidity in the 1990s. Since then, there have many books documenting various aspects of the growth of overall idiocy in America. Pseudoscience, anti-intellectualism, and overall idiocy in America has been an interest of mine going back to 1990s. I’ve read the top row of books and Hofstadter. I found the others (and many more) in 5 minutes in Amazon. Now these people are one election away from installing an idiot world dictatorship — led by a orange fascist lunatic, convicted felon, serial liar, misogynous, reality-TV star. So much for "nuance."

I'm surprised that anyone here is surprised at the levels of idiocy in America, MAGA, and GQP. — These two tables are from 2016 and 2018. I’ll say it again …. our traditional secular public school/education systems are utterly overwhelmed …. by conspiracy, paranormal, anti-science idiocy spewing from TV, Hollywood, Sunday School, and throughout social media. The idiocy is no longer fringe dudes. The idiocy is now mainstream America.

Spot on. It’s pretty much the same way the Christians/Capitalists treated Native Americans. — Say one thing to their face, then lie, insult, intimidate, and dehumanize … right to their face … then cynically agree to treaties … brazenly ignore/break the treaties with zero ethical concerns … all while perpetuating a puritanical genocide/ethnic cleansing program and seizing an entire continent. A bloodbath of terror and thievery, with near zero remorse. Colonize, conquer, cleanse, and convert those left alive to their Bible BS, while ruling them with an iron fist. And that’s the MAGA-GQP 2025 plan for America. — Colonize the government, police, military, education … conquer with violence any liberal or secular resistance … cleanse from society the brown people, abortion seekers, LGBTQIA, atheists, secular educators, leftists, and uncooperative journalists, celebs, scientists, and academics, etc. … convert those who agree to go along. Voila! A fascist theocracy. All celebrated by Christian America and Fox/OAN to be a Free Christian America … as ordained in the Bible … and expressed in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and First Amendment. And none of it is remotely true. Yet, it will be hardly contested as more than a mere policy issue by the media, Hollywood studios, university leaders, or corporate media. After all, the Capitalists need readers/viewers, filmgoers, tuition dollars, and customers/profits. And don't forget the tax breaks!

The coming fascist theocracy has been a growing threat for decades … once the Christian Puritan Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, and Creationists began taking over the GOP with Reagan. Presidents Bush 1 and 2 contributed mightily with Supreme Court justices (Thomas, Roberts, Alito), denying facts, blatant lying, war crimes, along with W’s “faith-based” policies. Trump only made it obvious. Now the fascist theocracy is 100% crystal clear. Yet, it is treated in almost all the news media, especially the prestige media, as if is a mere legit policy difference with “Republicans” and Democrats. The US news media should be blaring in giant headlines: "A TRUMP VICTORY MEANS A VIOLENT FASCIST THEOCRACY" Yet, nothing like that is happening … or will ever happen … even as the trains are jam packed and rolling toward the Rio Grande. The media have played their role in normalizing fascism and theocracy — out of historical ignorance, American exceptionalism, for fear of pissing off Christian America and losing readers/viewers. Truth be damned and no matter the insanity, Christian America will never be seriously challenged by the media or any institution. And that will be the ultimate demise of democracy. Count on it.

The idiots and evangelicals, for starters. There’s lots more. I guarantee you could go to a Trump-MAGA-GQP rally (or poll Trump voters) and find zillions who believe much on the following graphic.