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  1. Bartles
    Even using Newy's stats, that's like telling a team in September, "Ok, four of you are going to be hospitalized with COVID this season. And one of you is going to die from it. TEAM ON 3! 1-2-3..." But he's not exactly wrong, that is the world we all will be living in. If the precautions can be made sound enough, organized sports can outperform the numbers.The trouble is, our whole country has to navigate the minefield just to get to that point, and we aren't exactly on the same page on how to do that at the moment.
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    Eating my weekend budget at a single craps session, mainly. Hell, I'm not usually at a table long enough to get a significant dose of virus even if it was floating around.
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    Bowlsby already dangled the "on-line classes count as campus being open" rationale. But one can see the CA hierarchy not going for that bullshit. Many states are gonna have to prepare multiple strategies and talking points based on how their virus numbers look as summer begins. Gonna be messy, or at least we should hope it is...the alternative is the virus steps up and makes folly of all these plans
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    I agree, the players will have no public support for very understandable reasons. But I do suspect the difference in amount owed (prorated vs. pct of total revenue) is a drop in the bucket to most owners. And we don't know for sure there won't be fan revenue of some sort, like if they can sell parking lots for socially-distanced tailgating, etc. Really hope it gets worked out soon, but being a sports labor dispute, I'm sure it will be ugly and drag until the last moment
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    They don't WANT to the capacity. Trump can DPA order right this minute to mobilize hundreds of facilities to begin to produce needed materials. Authorize money for production of chemical reagents. Should have happened months ago, but weeks ago would have helped too. Doing it tomorrow would help. But he's simply never going to do it, and yeah "evil" is a perfect word.
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    But the Abbott tests aren't very reliable. Presumably the White House has some top of the line version that produces results within a couple hours at most. As to why we can't all have such testing, well that's basically the subtopic of the year. The short answer is because the federal government doesn't want people to get tested. The longer logistical answer involves scarcity of materials, administrative fuck-ups dating back years, and the simple fact that the science on this is difficult (viruses change over time, immunity level varies, etc). The longer political answer is all over this thread, but pretty much comes back to Trump/GOP trying to get re-elected using their usual cruel, divisive process. The more chaos and anger, the better his chances in November.
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    SNL 45

    Bartles replied to RPM's topic in Movies and TV

    I liked most sketches, What's Wrong With This Picture? probably my favorite. And a strong WU for a change, including Tina's bit. I'm glad we're done with these though, the whole premise gets a little more depressing with each new episode. You would think and hope they can get back in 8H next fall, maybe with a smaller audience (I know it's tight already).
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    Agree with LF68 ^. Also, I spend too much time reading about this shit every day, and I honestly have seen NO ONE advocating keeping lockdowns going until a vaccine or cure is available. No one, not in media, on blogs, message boards. Most of my "side" is aligned with what Pig Bellmont wrote in #1328 above. Open up ASAP...but do it safely, which actually shouldn't take that long
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    We're all in the same system though. UT football is more likely to get tests on demand than Rice. But Rice is more likely to get them than you and your buddies. And you are more likely to get tested than a Wendy's cashier. Even widespread complaining from fans, not to mention non-fans, isn't going to change any of that.
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    I'm opposed to neutral sites (for sports return in general) because I prefer to have teams hire at least some of their own employees to stage the games. But for EPL purposes there could be some horrible spreading incidents with crowds outside the stadium. Maybe that would happen anyway, as people gather to watch on the telly. I can't imagine what some Liverpool residents are going through, weighing how to celebrate as a community but without starting a new outbreak in the process.
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    I wasn't endorsing that strategy, just pointing out that's what tends to happen eventually. The point is if you take a little pause of a few weeks, the sick and death numbers would be way better because spreaders recover rather than keep spreading. And the economic carnage is coming regardless, quite possibly worse because of our rush to send people back into danger.
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    Here's a relevant blog post: How the Pandemic Ends Historians point out that pandemics tend to have a "social end" before they have a medical end. Who gets to set the timing and terms of that end is much more defined by politics, money and power than science. So what workswithseed (why not weed?) is suggesting is actually going to come to pass nationwide at some point. Most of us would prefer to get a few steps closer to the medical end, but it looks like we're all getting Leeroy Jenkins'd into dealing with whatever happens much sooner.
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    "There is no plan of action" answers your own question. People need to stay in until there is a plan to SAFELY go back. That means masks, distancing and hygiene; all of which are really easy and yet all these people who are so concerned about their country can't seem to comply. Also need a plan JUST IN CASE some hotspots flare up. Like quarantining and tracing, maybe shutting certain areas down again at least briefly. But that means the same people need to acknowledge that there's at least a possibility the virus is real and could start jumping around even among healthy young people.
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    The high numbers are concerning though, looks like around 400/day in the metroplex. That's a lot of new people every day being reported. Many likely were not quarantined yet and thus infected multiple others. And obviously the slope of the line in Dallas and Tarrant is not good
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    The first two sentences above do not align with the other sentences. If anything, that environment indicates there will definitely be football (maybe no fans). If such a thing had truly been decided, it would have leaked almost immediately.
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    I just meant they are using much stronger language than usual for a blueblood case. I don't expect them to follow through successfully
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    For sports purposes, I would delete the word "vaccine" from our vocabulary for the 2020 calendar year. The hurdles for mass-producing a vaccine are enormous and time consuming. And how to define whether it works is very much in question, same as with flu vaccines. *cracking door into cloak room* It wouldn't be surprising to see a major vaccine announcement in September or October, but nothing that will actually be put into practice in the near future.
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    Paying players in return for endorsements, after a very public rule change, is completely different than leaning on adidas to pay recruits and their families to come to your school in the first place, which will remain a major violation in the foreseeable future. The Snoop Dogg stuff is typical sprinkles added to a case to give the committee an overall sense of KU's disdain for the rules. The ruling will hinge on whether the investigators think the level of involvement KU granted adidas in the payment/recruiting process was large enough to classify as a booster. I would doubt that works, but as the IndyStar article points out, the new NCAA "jury" consists of investigators from private firms with national security backgrounds. No more former ADs and campus eggheads. And whatever they rule is binding with no right to appeal.
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    Paraphrasing a Salon column the other day, the Kevins would rather die as maskless warriors than surrender their control and manhood to some invisible virus that's scaring all the liberals. It's a classic fascist trait:
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    I mean, it could be really different but would be nice to have some type of season, right? It wouldn't be college football if massive groups of fans didn't feel aggrieved.
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    That's similar to California, all it really confirms is no fans at games. They aren't specific about whether a football game with maybe 350-400 people in a huge stadium would be considered safe. Not that I blame them at this point, let's see how things work overseas first.
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    I'm still of the belief they want to be able to power through if say two or fewer people on the team (not just players) test positive at the same time. But that can obviously blow up quickly. Story from S. Korea says one guy went clubbing and infected at least 13 people. And they are supposedly being careful. We (sort of) joke about players having sex but that's a real thing, or so I assume. There will be girls around - women's teams, cheer teams and more. If everyone seems healthy, there will be...spreading. We may learn some things from the foreign sports just starting up, especially when soccer gets going as that's got more contact.
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    Why does that FB group say "created about three years ago" ? Also clicking on a couple "moderators" makes me think it's a lulz page
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    It's worth mentioning South Korea was averaging lower than 13 new cases per day for several weeks, and now this one guy has caused more than that in a single night of clubbing. No way the US would be able to identify and trace so quickly - at least for the moment, we don't hear many calls to open up dance clubs over here though. Guess just a cultural thing that SK would be so careful for months and then allow karaoke, night clubs, etc. to open.
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    Good for the NCAA for standing up for itself for a change. Of course, if their case hinges on adidas being a booster, that's gonna be a tough sell to the infractions committee because I don't think such a thing has ever been ruled on before. This was a good column in the Indianapolis Star about the new penalty procedure. It's pretty much an unknown right now, but one thing that's clear is that once penalties are announced, that's the end of it. No more gutting the rulings in appeals. And that scares the fuck out of the schools.

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