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  1. 13 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

    One thought I have running in my mind I'd hoe do you seed a new conference if you want to ditch the dead weight.

    1. SEC as I understand has no exit fees. Is this confirmed ? 

    SEC does have exit fees now: $30-$45M. They were added after some additional disbursements related to COVID.

  2. 1 minute ago, bullet said:

    The Big 10 ADs were furious when they found out Penn St. had been added.  They were not consulted.  "Do you know how hard it is to get to State College?"

    And that was 30+ years ago. How they haven't solved this problem is mind boggling.

  3. 7 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

    Nicole Auerbach pointed out that West Coast visitors to Penn State will have to take a smaller plane to land at State College. They’ll have to refuel somewhere in the Midwest. 

    While I have no problem with Big Ten expansion, I think they’ll run into a host of travel issues like the aforementioned short runways. 

    The whole issue seems easy to solve with the money the B1G is getting.

    At one point, I understand that the city of Jax paid to extend the runway in Athens as part of a contract extension for the cocktail party.

  4. 8 minutes ago, locodos said:

    Boy finally dries his eyes, and moves on, and eventually finds a girl who seems to like him.

    She treats him well. 

    He falls for her. 

    They get married. 

    The girl he thought he wanted, suddenly wants him.

    Ironic. 

    Except SEC and ACC made offers at the same time.

  5. 9 minutes ago, Chopper said:

    I've heard no conference wants to go past 18 teams due to scheduling problems. Don't know how true it is.

    I've also heard that when a west coast team is scheduled to play Penn St, they'll have a 3 hour bus ride to/from Pittsburgh just to get to an airport that has a landing strip long enough to handle planes that can fly non-stop from/to the west coast and PA. University Park can only accommodate regional jets.

    Depends on if you want to play everyone in your conference frequently or not.

    My guess would be that they would change planes at some point into smaller jets for the last leg vs a long bus ride.

  6. 13 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

    its from Sportico's database

    Thanks. Looks like they don't have Florida's 2021-22 data yet so that's why they don't show up.

    Previous year, UF was #21 with $164M.

    Rutgers must be doing some funny math or some of their funding sources don't count (like borrowing from the B1G's future distributions?) because they are only showing $56M which isn't close to being right.

    https://www.northjersey.com/in-depth/news/watchdog/2021/09/04/rutgers-athletics-265-m-in-debt-borrows-to-keep-pace-in-big-ten/8047865002/

  7. 49 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

    So, Cal's athletic debt is well known.  But what about SDSU and ASU?  

     

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    Do you have a link for this? 

    1) Curious as to how Rutgers isn't on there as they've borrowed like $250M.

    2) Curious to where UF is on the list. We've just built a new baseball stadium and football facilities, so I assumed some of it went to debt and not all donations.

  8. 7 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

    Technically, the ACC owns the GoR agreement with the schools and ESPN pays the ACC for the right to broadcast their games.    If FSU moved to the SEC, ESPN can't air them, even though they hold a broadcast agreement with both, unless the ACC approves that use of their rights.

    Some negotiation or "make right" would need to occur, because the ACC will lose value with FSU gone, as will ESPN, since their contracts and the agreement to build the ACC network was with FSU involved.   

    If FSU left next year, they'd owe a buyout (which in the ACC is 3 years of revenue) then ESPN would trigger a composition clause, informing the ACC that their revenue will decrease by $X.   Then the ACC would look to FSU and say, "There's your number.   We'll hand you back your rights once we're all even"

    It took the B12 a year or so to figure out a solution and that was in the last year of the GoR, i still struggle to see how this will be an easy move for FSU.

    We were talking an instance where the ACC ceased to exist. That doesn't end the GoR.

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  9. 11 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

    Wow. But who would they pay?   The new acc schools?  😂

    The GoR deal is with ESPN so nothing really changes. And there is no "buying out" like the conference exit fee. 

    Any money paid would be part of some sort of negotiation with the network to recover those rights.

  10. 21 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

    If say 6 schools left the acc would that void the gor?

    The GoR is pretty looks like it assigns each school individually to the deal.

    So the ACC could cease to exist and the GoR would still be there attached to those now 15 individual schools.

  11. 15 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    I don’t necessarily think the BIG wants cal and Stanford. 

    I'm not sure the B1G knows what it wants and hasn't for awhile.

    They're so focused on making more money than the SEC, hoping that that will solve the problem that they keep adding side hustles.

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  12. 5 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:
    6 minutes ago, BachelorTrek said:

    And only 14 teams for baseball since IA St. and CU don't play baseball.

    That'll be a weird yearly conference baseball schedule to work out, and add to that the BYU series must start on Thursday since they won't play games on Sundays.

    Saturday double-headers

    They will get tired of them

    And they will like it until they relent on the Sunday thing

    SEC does several Thursday-Saturday weekends in conference play in Baseball.

    I actually kinda like it.

  13. 10 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

    neyland gets to 102k going full aggy

    no way a sane fire marshal would let more than 80k in that place

    Pretty sure one of their expansions back when they were going back and forth with Michigan was just to paint the numbers closer.

  14. 1 hour ago, bullet said:

    Tennessee could sure stand to lose a few thousand seats.  Its really tight in Knoxville and none of us are that big.

    Sat in one of the upper corners in 2010. It was down right scary, tight and I swear that if someone fell, they'd just roll over the edge.

  15. 2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    Houston has tons of Big XII alums and is driving distance for the original Big XII schools. They'll sell out regularly with half or more visiting fans. That's my prediction. 

    Sounds Vandy.

    6 schools are within 300 miles of Nashville and it's a great town to visit.

  16. 4 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    Boone Pickens renovations reduced from 60K to 55K. The money today isn't on number of tickets, it's tv contracts, so the seats are more about quality than quantity. I gave up my season tickets about 5 years ago because family and other obligations, but I assume they're quite a bit more these days. The reduction was by creating more seat room and adding a bunch of permanent seatbacks. It's Oklahoma, so it's also probably because we're all fat as fuck. UH and Cincy look like they are at 40K, which is small, but as long as they sell the seats and it looks good on TV, it's fine in my opinion. I'll take a full Nippert stadium with 40K than 45K at the Rosebowl, which is half capacity. 

    It wouldn't surprise me if Florida loses at least 5k in this upcoming $400M revision.

    It's always been tight in the bleachers but butts are wider and Florida is getting hotter.

    I used to hate sitting in the "cheap seats" in Sunshine Terrace (upper north endzone) but we sat there several games last season and having chairbacks plus room for air to flow sold me on those even though the perspective isn't as good as being on the sides.

  17. Just now, ChickenSandwich said:

    So we now have 2 Power conferences -SEC/Big10

    and 2 Mid Level conferences in the Big 12/ACC

     

    P5 and G5 terminology needs an update. Go back to varsity/ jr varsity?

    Considering that there isn't a distinction in the 12 team playoff, is there a reason to even keep the two groups separated?

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