I think people dismissing a Fickell or Napier because Herman and Strong were busts aren't looking at the situation quite right. Strong was the result of a disastrous, panicked process. He's kind of an outlier. He never should have been hired. While Herman was a hot name at the time, he did have some red flags. However, just because Herman didn't work out, doesn't mean the next up and coming coach is going to bust as well. Each coach is different and needs to be evaluated on individual merits. Some might have the goods, and some might not. Urban Meyer wasn't a successful P5 coach before Florida.
I'm not necessarily advocating for those guys particularly. I'm not familiar enough with either of them. However, I don't think they should dismissed out of hand because they're not established P5 coaches already. Neither Herman nor Strong should be any kind of factor in their evaluations.