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Dahobbs

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  1. His elbow hit down on the white. The ball was clearly past his elbow before that happened.
  2. I mean, technically you are right. But Klubnik was asked to do more and executed that "more" very well. In gymnastics, Quinn would have executed a lower difficulty routine very well, and Klubnik a high difficulty routines very well. Judges would give the higher score to Klubnik. Maybe Quinn could execute a higher difficulty routine, but we haven't seen Quinn do that this season (at least since his injuries).
  3. It comes up every week with the advanced stats. Teams run the more ball more than expected against us. This is basically because our pass rush and coverage are (usually) really good.
  4. I just mean the game needs to be played at the end of the season generally (Thanksgiving or after). Playing it at the beginning of the season degrades the game.
  5. They are about disintegration of the blocking zone specifically while in shotgun and how that affects blocking rules. Yes, they aren't specifically discussing blocking in the back. But it is the exact same general principle. Under the current NCAA rules, the blocking zone affects clipping and blocking in the back. Also, the two links are two separate forums discussing those issues. One is from 2019 and one is from 2007. They aren't the same thread. I'm not sure what you're talking about. That's like saying a post here and a post on the same topic on orange bloods are "the same exact thread". I'm not sure why you get a thrill out of trolling. Especially out of something mundane like this. Just read the rule book. Or continue to be ignorant. It makes no difference to me. Peace son and happy holidays.
  6. My guy, you have a problem with the rules as written, not me. Here are some ref discussions on this very issue: https://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=14562.0 https://forum.officiating.com/football/38771-blooking-rules-shotgun.html Under the rules, the blocking zone determines when you can legally block in the back. Under the rules, the blocking zone disintegrates when the ball leaves the blocking zone. Under the rules, the blocking zone extends 3 yards longitudinally from the middle lineman and 5 yards laterally. If you have an exception to the rule that applies, point to it. Here is the rule book: https://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4705-2024-ncaa-football-rules-book-online-only.aspx I'm fine if you don't think it should be rule. As I said, this rule has changed a lot over the years. That's part of what makes the whole thing so confusing. You use to have a separate low blocking zone that now essentially is replaced by the tackle box definition (which is larger). Currently, the tackle box controls blocking below the waist. The blocking zone controls clipping and blocking in the back.
  7. Sacrilege. It is played at the end of the season. End of story.
  8. The tackle box is distinct and covered by a separate section (see below). But blocks in the back are controlled by the blocking zone, which is smaller (I provided the definition in the post you quoted). The blocking zone is called close-line play in the NFL or the free blocking zone in certain states governed by the National Federation of Highschools. Rule 2 SECTION 34. TACKLE BOX ARTICLE 1. a. The tackle box is the rectangular area enclosed by the neutral zone, the two lines parallel to the sidelines five yards from the snapper, and Team A’s end line. (See Appendix D.) b. The tackle box disintegrates when the ball leave
  9. They allowed Josh Heupel at Ohio State's stadium. I don't see the distinction.
  10. This is a very underrated point.
  11. Gilbeau is better in run support than coverage. But it also seemed like we ran a lot more variation in coverage than normal and maybe that is why a few guys got confused. We've been so good at quarters and cover 3 that we've rarely had to do much besides our base. I do think we may see more of Barron back at nickel against more spready teams (especially teams like ASU without a high priority receiving threat). He may serve more utility there than just locking down one side of the field.
  12. It is literally the rule. Some of the things you're talking about in your post (e.g., the defender dropping a shoulder) are covered by other exceptions even if they occur outside the blocking zone. There is definitely some leeway given here as I don't think the exact parameters of the blocking zone (3 yards longitudinally and 5 yards laterally in each direction) are easy to see and enforce. The rules have changed over the year (e.g., getting rid of low-block zone in favor of a general blocking zone). I know other organizations have specifically addressed shotgun snaps disintegrating the blocking zone over the years, but I'm not entirely sure the NCAA has ever expressly addressed it in a casebook. But yeah, when the block in the back in question occurs 5 yards away from the line of scrimmage well after the initial contact and the ball is 10 yards away from the line of scrimmage, it is a penalty by rule. Rule 9 Section 3 Blocking, Use of Hands or Arms ARTICLE 5 Blocking in the Back A block in the back (other than against the ball carrier) is illegal (A R 9-3-3-I, VII and -IX; and A R 10-2-2-XII) Exceptions: 1 Offensive players who are on the line of scrimmage at the snap within the blocking zone (Rule 2-3-6) may legally block in the back in the blocking zone, subject to the following restrictions: (a) A player on the line of scrimmage within this blocking zone may not leave the zone, return and block in the back (b) The blocking zone disintegrates when the ball leaves the zone (Rule 2-3-6) 2 When a player turns their back to a potential blocker who has committed themselves in intent and direction or movement 3 When a player attempts to reach a runner or legally attempts to recover or catch a fumble, a backward pass, a kick or a touched forward pass, they may push an opponent in the back above the waist (Rule 9-1-5 Exception 3) 4 When the opponent turns their back to the blocker under Rule 9-3-3-a-1-(b) 5 When an eligible player behind the neutral zone pushes an opponent in the back above the waist to get to a forward pass (Rule 9-1-5 Exception 4) Rule 2 Section 3 Blocking ARTICLE 6 Blocking Zone a. The blocking zone is a rectangle centered on the middle lineman of the offensive formation and extending five yards laterally and three yards longitudinally in each direction b The blocking zone disintegrates when the ball leaves the zone;
  13. I plan on being there.
  14. I get it doesn't get called often, but when the QB is in shotgun, because the ball immediately leaves the blocking zone, by rule the zone disintegrates, and any blocks in the back after the initial blocking action should be penalties.
  15. Neither the ball nor the block is in the blocking zone. That is an illegal block.
  16. Boise State is higher ranked in DFEI than ASU. He isn't saying it is better than Texas.
  17. We can't play Guilbeau against elite passing offenses unless he really ups his game. Malik will be fine.
  18. Maybe. But Barron doesn't win the Thorpe playing nickel unfortunately.
  19. That's exactly what we did at the end.
  20. These are really different numbers unless the first is rating instead of viewers.
  21. Nothing you can do about that throw other than not let it happen.
  22. Hill ends up guarding grass here. I have to think #3 is supposed to get more depth and then he and Hill can rally to the 7 yard out if it goes that way. That's a long throw, so Guilbeau would have had plenty of time if he just stays at a 10 yard depth. It would have also made that deeper out almost impossible to hit.
  23. The way Gbenda acted, immediately turning rather than staying with the slot receiver in the flat, I'm not entirely either he or Hill knew their assignments there. Good use movement to stress the defense. It makes more sense we would have Hill be responsible for the slot and Gbenda the back (at least in terms of matchups).
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