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Dahobbs

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  1. Then don't be a dick about it. Or do. Whatever. Just don't be surprised if someone responds.
  2. Weird. These are very clearly in that vein. There are many more. Quinn was the best player on our offense on Saturday. He played one of his best games of the season. It is a relatively low bar, but one he cleared and many other players didn't.
  3. Yes. He missed it. But Moore also ran a poor route. A lot shit went wrong there. They really knew us well it seemed. I would have thought we mixed it up after the first go around, but apparently not. We may still be tipping our runs somehow.
  4. Can we not make shit up please? No one has said that throw should be to the front pylon. And the throw wasn't to the front pylon. It was short, but not that short. Moore ran his route too vertical. If he actually fades to the sidelines, he is in position to make a play on the ball, imperfect pass and all.
  5. The ball is thrown when Moore is at the 10-yard line. And It doesn't land damn near the front pylon at all. It lands 4 yards deep in the endzone and about 2 yards from the sideline. Moore runs the route correctly, he has plenty of opportunity to adjust. The ball is like 3 yards short at most. And no, it doesn't bring the defender back into play exactly because it is thrown towards the sideline. That defender was never getting that far over.
  6. I agree. The throw needs to lead him up field. I said that 1,000 times already. But, even where Quinn placed it, if Moore is where is supposed to be, he has a shot at catching that. This isn't about defending the throw. It is about illustrating a greater point: the misses we had weren't all on Quinn. Other players need to step up too. If Quinn throws it better (still not between the I and A), Moore has a shot at a TD. If Moore runs the route correctly, Moore has a shot at TD. If both things happen. It is an easy TD. For some reason, some people want to lay EVERYTHING on Quinn. It is fucking stupid.
  7. Yes, it is fade. Moore is supposed to be 5 yards inside of where he was. He isn't supposed to be running to a spot between the I and A, he is supposed to end up closer to the sideline. He is supposed to be prepared for the ball to come to his outside shoulder (you know, because it is fade). Quinn needs to throw it farther up field, Moore needs to get farther outside. Y'all literally have a video of the exact same play by Arch and the route is way closer to the sideline than where Moore ended up.
  8. My guy, Here is where you said the throw should be to Moore Here is the same spot on the Arch throw. Moore is way farther inside. He is in a different spot because he ran the route differently.
  9. How do you not see that the receivers are in completely different places? Do you not see how far inside Moore is? Why do you have to be an ass about everything? Anyway, I'll just going back to ignoring your dumb ass.
  10. Well, you're wrong then. They both fucked up. Arch made a better throw and Cook ran his route 5 yards closer to the sideline.
  11. Look at your damn Manning play. Look at where Manning throws the ball. He isn't throwing the ball at the Texas 'S', which is where Moore was running the route. Moore is supposed to break further outside on a fade. Moore was running to the X on this play before adjusting late outside. I don't think there is any possible way Moore was supposed to be as inside as he was. Not on a fade.
  12. He was able to make an over the shoulder catch without contorting his body because he was in proper position and not way inside. If Moore runs that play as he did for us, he is at the X and is going to have the exact same problem.
  13. So you agree Moore messed up too? Moore has to take that route further outside. He just does. He is supposed to end up closer to the sideline, not 10 yards from it. He had to contort his body because he was caught so far inside of where the play is designed. Moore's originally running that route to catch it in between the 'I' and the 'A'. That's not where he is supposed to be. Go look at your Manning clip. The ball is thrown a couple of yards from the sideline. Neither Quinn nor Moore executed that play correctly. But if Moore keeps moving outside, he still has a damn good shot of catching that.
  14. Manning's throw is better than Quinn's. But both Quinn and Arch throw this ball about 2 yards from the sideline (Arch about 5 yards further up field). Moore is way inside of that track. See how Cook continued to run to the Pylon? See how Moore was running much more vertical? He is running his route 10 yards away from the sideline. I just don't think that can possibly be right. And y'all are acting like the ball landed 10 yards from Moore. He was literally one step away. I think he is supposed to be further outside on that route. But the ball also needs to be further up field.
  15. I actually think there is a lot to this. It really is a hard angle to track. The moonballs are better than what he did 2022 where the ball was thrown too hard to give the receiver any chance to adjust. But they aren't easy to follow. Yeah. One I thing I do note: both Quinn and Arch placed the ball about 2 yards from the sideline in those plays. Moore is running way inside of that track. Now, he did line up just inside the right hash while Cook (?) was lined up just outside of the hash on Arch's play, so maybe that is difference right there.
  16. My bad. The camera perspective is fucking with me there.
  17. Throwing to a pre determined spot is a non sensical criticism. Anytime a QB throws to a receiver prior to a route break, the QB is throwing to a pre determined spot. The question is whether it is the right spot. Both QB and receiver have to be on the same page. Ours have had issues with this all season. A predetermined read would be a different issue if that is what you're thinking of.
  18. You started this fight AFTER I said it wasn't a good throw. Stop being a douche.
  19. I already said at the very beginning that it wasn't a good throw. It is literally the first thing I said about the play. But there is a pretty big difference in our field position with Arch's throw and Quinn's throw. We were on the opposite hash for Quinn's throw, meaning there was a ton of space to the outside and no defender there. Quinn was throwing to grass . Whether that's an adjustment Sark expects Quinn and the receiver to make there, I have no clue. We lost by inches, play after play on Saturday. Quinn was part of that. But he wasn't the primary problem with our offense.
  20. Two of those two times we were immediately knocked out of the redzone due to penalties, not due to Quinn. Other than that, we were in the redzone twice in regulation. Once at the end of the first half and once at the end of the second half. The whole team got beat there. Not just Quinn. That's my only point. He doesn't need to make a 90 degree turn. You're basing that off of where he ended up after turning to look inside. If he turns to his outside shoulder, he can easily drift toward the ball. The ball only landed a step away from him as it is. If Moore turns to outside shoulder or if Quinn throws to his inside shoulder, either is a TD. I don't know what way is right for this look in our offense. But I get why Quinn threw it where he did. That's all I'm saying.
  21. Are you able to admit that if Moore just turns to his outside it is a fairly easy adjustment to catch the ball? I don't understand why this has to be militantly anti-Quinn. Receiver and QB weren't on the same page. If either of them acts slightly differently, it is probably a TD. I said it wasn't a great throw, but acting like it was the worst throw of all time is fucking insane. That one play is probably a good illustration of the game generally. A subtle change here or there and we win.
  22. We really weren't in the redzone much. We were in Georgia territory, but not the redzone until OT.
  23. I agree, that is where Moore thought it was going. I'm just saying that Quinn expected him to run to grass away from the defender. Quinn very deliberately threw the ball at Moore's break into the location that he did. It wasn't a miss in the sense that he was aiming somewhere else. Moore had his guy beat wide with a ton of room to work outside. He didn't "cut inside" but his turn did drag him back inside slightly, making it much harder to adjust to where Quinn put the ball. Ultimately, I don't think we can know who messed up. But it is another instance of QB and receiver not being on the same page.
  24. I don't understand what you're complaining about here. You wanted Quinn to hold on to the ball to wait and see if Moore randomly drifts back towards coverage? Why would he do that? No one coaches it that way. Moore will tell you he fucked up here. If he turns to his outside shoulder, like he is supposed to, it is an easy TD.
  25. THE BALL WAS ALREADY IN THE AIR when Moore turned inside. That's what the screen shot is showing you. Moore turned inside AFTER Quinn threw the ball. He wasn't supposed to do that. There is no reason to do that. You have no idea what you're looking at.
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