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  1. 5 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

    SWAC people should kiss both sides of Deion's ass after how he raised their profile the past 3 years with national media coverage they NEVER received.

    But, they're used to playing the victim card.

    Would be interesting for you to explain what you mean by this.

    I think the "SWAC people" who are angry with Deion about this is relatively low. It's not that much different than people getting mad at Local HS Star for going out-of-state instead of to Hometown U. There's really not any need to do the thing you're obviously doing here.

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  2. 24 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

    Mind you, players from other teams and their coaches disrespected him, claiming that he wasn't authentically a member of the conference (in press conferences!) which is fairly unbelievable.

    Eddie Robinson Jr said "he (Sanders) ain't SWAC, I'm SWAC". Eddie Robinson Sr is THE legend. Coached from WWII to the late 90s at Grambling.

    It's a club and Deion was an outsider, simple as that. Robinson Jr is a prince in a small, insular kingdom. He's essentially talking street cred and Sanders is playing an entirely different game, and it hurts Jr's feelings. (Also, Jr lost on the field, which doesn't help.)

    Robinson explains it here (skip to a minute in to avoid promos)

    There's a push/pull in terms of how you feel as an HBCU community member. 

    On the one hand, you are proud of what it is and you think it's good enough as it is. But on the other hand,  you see where it maybe COULD go and how it is failing in certain ways. So do you admit the need for change and growth and jeopardize your pride? Or do you reject change and growth in favor of maintaining your pride?

     

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  3. 20 hours ago, Brothahorn said:

    Both sides benefitted from the deal. But Deion definitely benefitted more. That's not really debatable. 

    Yes, but for two huge reasons:

    1 - Deion earned the come-up through a ridiculously successful effort

    Eddie George is another ex-NFL star who went to coach an HBCU. His overall record in two years is 9-13. Sanders went 15-5 his first two years (27-5 overall). (Both their schools were ~.300 the year before each arrived)

    Deion won on the field. Deion reinvested HEAVILY in his school and community. Deion brought massive attention to JSU and, of course, himself. George hasn't won, and if George has reinvested heavily in his school and community, we the general public have no idea. And all that hype isn't an accident, it takes intelligence and skill, and it actually does matter a hell of a lot. I guarantee you that TState's players would like all the attention and money coming to JSU's kids.

    And George is in Nashville. Just imagine Primetime Neon Deion selling Nashville. At Titans games and such.

    2 - His ceiling is way higher than JSU's (or any other HBCU's) in relative terms

    There is only so high any HBCU is going to climb, no matter who the coach is or how many times they win the SWAC (or OVC in George's case). Looking at it from the outside (in racial and demographic terms) I don't see what else Sanders could have accomplished for JSU/HBCUs. Him leaving sucks specifically because he did so much.

    Overall, I would love for JSU to stay on the best possible terms with him, because it's best for them. Keep the train rolling as much as possible.

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  4. Needs to be a mutual cease fire between any pissed off people in the Sanders camp and any pissed off people in the JSU camp. Just keep pumping the "we love each other!" narrative and move on down the damn road.

    That YT video starts off saying that if JSU wasn't so "shady" that Deion wouldn't have left. That's bullshit. It's like a divorce. It can go down clean or it can go nasty, but it's going to go down.

    This kind of bullshit drama hurts everyone involved.

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  5. 6 minutes ago, hook me said:

    Jimbo: What are your demands?

    BP: Full control of the offensive play calling, implementation, recruiting decisions, on & off field assistants, & $1mm/year + bonuses.

    Jimbo: I can do $1.5mm/year, you get absolutely no say in anything on the offensive side of the ball but I'll get you a new motorcycle & I get to watch what you do with any coed &/or my wife will be none of my business.

    BP: gig me.. i mean gig 'em!

    Fixed.

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  6. 37 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:
    2 hours ago, Pancho said:
    I’m more confused as to why Deion never apologized to me when he ran over my foot with his child’s stroller at Stonebriar Mall in Frisco back in 2001. 

    This is why Emmitt is my favorite Cowboy. He bumped me from behind at Cowboy Cafe back in the day. When I turned to say something smart, I looked down and it was Emmitt. I couldn't say shit. I smiled, he smiled and apologized. Then bought me a replacement.

    All right, hoss, let's throttle back on talking shit about 22.

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  7. 37 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

    The best head coaches have no idea what their coordinators are doing? Seriously?

    "No idea" is too strong.

    I don't want my HC to have to get granular with coordinators during the game. An ideal situation is that the defensive staff runs the defense, the offensive staff runs the offense, and the HC sets larger expectations, manages the game (clock, refs, etc...), runs the staff leaders (DC/OC), and acts as a general sideline cheerleader on occasion.

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  8. 19 minutes ago, GoPokes83 said:

    If someone announces they’re entering the portal, doesn’t get any bites and removes their name. Is the university required to take them back and honor their scholarship, or have the players essentially quit the team and relinquished any claims to the program when they enter the portal?

    Probably some hard feelings if you try to come back. Like dramatically announcing to the wife that you're going to find a new woman then crawling back home two weeks later.

    "Baby I realized I never knew what I had after all!!"

  9. Yeah, that's actually a positive as far as I'm concerned. In the video of him talking to his players and staff about leaving, he tells his OC to make sure that a certain player gets a touch in the final game. He doesn't gameplan it, he doesn't even pretend to give a shit about calling plays. VERY clear about the delegation of responsibilities.

    I don't imagine Sanders is a guy who you have to worry about micromanaging you as long as you're getting results. Give him a DC who pitches shutouts and Prime probably couldn't even tell you what the schemes and alignments were that made it happen. He's just smiling, clapping, coaching the guys in a general/discipline/expectations sense, winning over boosters and recruits, and making sure all the checks are lined up.

    And I doubt he has a lot of time for coaches/staff who aren't getting results.

    "We gon' hug and kiss and say goodbye."

  10. More of Sanders' exit meeting with his players at JSU.

    A lot of guys thanking him for giving them second chances and helping them grown up. This all right before he's about to get on a plane to leave. If I was a Colorado fan I wouldn't be worried about the locker room.

    Kid: "I'm from the media team..."
    Deion: "I ain't ever seen you before in my life."

    lol damn

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