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  1. 1 hour ago, immamac said:

    @bad_teammate wtf are you talking about? Are you paying players some mysterious NIL deal that hasn't been visible or something?

    The deal itself is visible in terms of him being publicly involved (It's an endorsement, after all). How much he is being paid doesn't seem to be easy to find with a lazy Google attempt. 

    Maybe he's private. Maybe he only tells the people he thinks need to know. Maybe he's got it posted in his locker. Maybe there's a database somewhere I don't know about. Don't know and don't really care as long as he's happy and it helps us keep him. (As mentioned above, we're in some new waters where we worry about endlessly re-recruiting our own guys.)

  2. 1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

    As I and @immamac have referenced, there are plenty of ways to get involved and there are resources for such matters on this very board. 

    I like the Will Farrell dysfunctional family skit as much as the next guy, but taking you to task for your slothful, bandwidth-draining behavior hardly makes me, or anyone else mocking your weak shit, that guy. I'm actually surprised you allude to having a sense of humor, since I've never figured that in the years of seeing your random posts. 

    This is all screaming insecurity.

    Post like you've been there before.

  3. 19 minutes ago, immamac said:

    You don't even pay into burnt ends and talk about NIL like a child. He's not picking on you it's just naive and a waste of time to follow through on. 

    I literally just described a thing I am currently involved in. Not sure what follow through I am asking for.

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    I have a legitimate way to pay players, have the contacts to make it happen quickly and have the infrastructure to provide an easy way for people to get involved, yet all I'm getting is troll posts and a bunch of bullshit in a thread that I made about it.

    I think BE is awesome and have said so and will continue to say so because it's true. I hope you get all your returns back and it grows. I think you guys are trendsetters. I think you guys are pioneering a fantastic model that I would love to see others emulate.

    You're doing awesome stuff. I love it.

    I also believe that we need a lot of action outside of BE. You'd agree with that, right?

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    I put 70k of my own money on the line to get it going and it's honestly the only reason that Texas is relevant in any NIL conversations right now, not just in public but at an internal AD level. 

    I'm not plugged into the AD. I don't know what "NIL conversations" you're talking about. I do know that a specific Texas player is getting money in his pocket directly correlated to the amount myself and others are investing into a project. That seems to be what people are interested in doing.

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    Show up with some cash and I will fucking walk you in the door to get it to the player of your choosing.

    I don't need your help in order to accomplish this task. I appreciate the offer, though.

    Keep kicking ass. I mean that sincerely.

  4. 11 minutes ago, Fletch said:

    Got a friend who’s got some high school buddies that are walk ons. He’s in a fucking street gang.

    If true... why was he on the team this long to begin with?

    (don't answer, stripper monkey coaching)

  5. There are people who want to get involved who don't know how. I think it's helpful to give examples of how it can work so they feel empowered to get involved. because that's what we're looking for.

    The fact that everyone else is below CTJ and we will infuriate him with our ignorance will just have to be the cross he continues to bear. :(

    DODGE STRATUS

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  6. 24 minutes ago, golfclap said:

    You should probably bow out of the conversation now.

    Yeah it's stupid to talk about real processes that are working right now to put money in players' pockets we should only complain vaguely and with increasing rage about things we have zero control over. lol

    UT's admin needs to do a much better job, and as I said, if you're relying on them to guide you in your NIL proceedings it's going to be a bad time. We have to do it ourselves. I wish it wasn't that way, but it is.

    Our culture isn't ready for this right now. Don't know why it enrages some of you to hear that when you seem to believe it, too.

  7. 1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

    In your head, are the minority investors also holding a gun to the head of the tire shop owner as they take a stake in his business? Does all of this happen in the course of one episode, or is it like a 3-5 episode arc where this kind of work transpires to get Johnny B. Good his NIL dough and his fixers a stake in the local business community? 

    Very odd hostility about a pretty banal thing that isn't even hard to understand. 

    I think people here who have money they want to spend on paying players should find ways to do it. Burnt Ends is a good one. There are other ways to do it.

    I'd think you want people to actually make an effort, right? Not sure what your goal is here.

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    I can tell you that I can answer "yes" to every part of all 3 questions. What I can also tell you is that at this moment, Texas is fully incompetent about all facets of this stuff. Like, UT is the guy pissing in the urinal with his pants down around his ankles-level incompetent right now. The football staff will not even speak to anyone about how to direct NIL funds. Not even a vague hint of which players could use some juice, etc. Meanwhile, other programs are actively contacting UT players with offers about transferring. 

    If you're calling UT to have them walk you through the process then it might be a problem, but if all you want to do is hire a player to endorse a business it's pretty straight-forward and, if you've got people doing that legal side who know what they're doing, it can go pretty smoothly.

    We need to do it better. We need to do it more. Most of us aren't in a position to sign someone to a $1M kombucha-endorsement contract (I'm certainly not), so we've got to get more creative and work together (again, hat-tip to Burnt Ends).

    We, as a fanbase and institution, are new to this. We're learning. This is way outside our comfort zone after decades of not Playing The Game.

  8. 25 minutes ago, Noozak said:

    I like your idea of offering some valid business venture partnership but what happens when their play on the field suffers? Do you cut their shares?

    You're not making the athlete a partner in the business, you're paying them for their endorsement. YOU, the money guy(s) become the partner in the business who is then paying the athlete for the endorsement. At the end of the contract period, you renegotiate just like anything else.

    Bobby has a tire shop. You (solo or as part of an investment venture with other guys) go to Bobby and say, "Hey, we want to invest in your business. We would like to give you $X so that you can grow your business by increasing advertising. For instance, here's a great idea: Pay this football player for the local favorite Texas Longhorns to say your tire shop is the best!"

    You sign on as a minor partner in Bobby's Tires and Bobby uses that investment money to hire a new endorser.

    Forming an investment company would be a good way to turn a bunch of minor players money-wise into a single bigger player. It helps if people in your group do this kind of crap for a living anyway.

  9. 6 minutes ago, Noozak said:

    Unfortunately, you can't offer an NIL deal based on Performance. I am going to bastardize the language but essentially you get into the pay-for-play (on the field) realm when you start offering performance incentives. It needs to be a flat amount based on some service rendered in their name image or likeness. 

    I didn't mean it in a pay-for-performance-metrics way, but a pay-someone-alot-once-they've-proven-themselves thing. So Johnny Recruit will see, "Hey, he was making $X in deals to start, but once he popped off a couple games he got a new gig that did $X*2! If I show out there are people watching who will want my face on their taco truck!"

    That's how all sports endorsement works. The players prove themselves on the field and then they get hired to do spots.

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