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  1. 9 minutes ago, smuggs said:

    It seems like the cost benefit is currently in favor of the guy sitting at a Mac adding muzzle blasts anyway, vs. the daily on set presence of an armorer.

    I need the gun itself to look as real as possible

    I need the actors around to react to the loud noise as authentically as possible

    I need the actor to feel and demonstrate the weight of the gun accurately

    I need the actor to deal with recoil as realistically as possible

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  2. 17 minutes ago, smuggs said:

    You can use phony guns or Airsoft guns and create CGI gun blasts complete with muzzle flash, cycling actions and ejecting shell casings with Adobe After Effects. This dude has a tutorial where it took him roughly 20 minutes to create the gunfire below. He also offers his own software pack for $99 that includes a shit ton of stock gun fire effects that he already created, that are licensed and ready for use. I'm sure there are a million other similar software tools out there.

    This whole situation with "is this gun hot or cold?" is so fucking pointless and stupid. RIP to the woman who lost her life because of the dumbass shenanigans at every turn.

     

    https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/create-realistic-muzzle-flashes-in-after-effects/

     

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    or just follow pre-existing safety protocols that are extremely effective and not have to muck around with unnecessary post-production (also, lol @ the ejector on the mp5)

  3. 5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    if you tell me that the last one is an accepted practice on movie sets because of the protocols in place, I’ll believe it but I still don’t think that should be the practice. 

    Why? When is the actor supposed to practice the motion?

    An actor is trying to look as natural and proficient and smooth as possible with the weapon. They need to practice moving it and using it, not just at a range but before the shot. They'll need multiple takes.

    There's no reason to go against the existing protocol; the existing protocol works.

    This happened because the existing protocol wasn't followed.

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  4. 9 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

    Yeah that's a swing, AND a miss on all 3, but hey you project all you'd like.  Loaded weapons in a vehicle was a definite no always.

    You knew zero people who carried a rifle or pistol in their vehicle at any time for any reason?

    In your mind, every single person who carries unloads their gun every time they get in a car and reloads it when they step out of the car?

    When driving a property, the gun is unloaded in the vehicle and it is only after stepping out of the vehicle the occupant pulls out magazines/ammunition and loads the weapon?

    A group of guys unload their guns before putting them on the back of the mule and driving from the truck to the blind?

    This is what you believe, right?

    I'm not asking what you imagine best practices would be. I'm asking what you think actually happens among people who consider themselves responsible gun owners. In the real world.

    lol

  5. 10 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

    The way Hollywood operates with this stuff is essentially like ignoring lock out tag out procedures and just blindly trusting that the person writing the safe work permit did everything properly. The whole system is pretty much designed to fail, and it is amazing that accidents like this aren't more common than they are now.

    And yet, it basically never happens. Weird.

    9 hours ago, yoladu said:

    A lot fewer than I imagined, actually. Did you even read your link. All you need to do is CTRL-F "gun" and see how rare these kinds of things are.

    1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

    Jesus your middle name should be Darwin Award in waiting. Grew up hunting, and handling firearms, and never was a loaded weapon allowed in a vehicle for any reason.  Yeah that was a big safety issue whether you recognized it or not.

    You're either a liar, under 40, or a city boy. Probably all 3.

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  6. 1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

    What if you’re the executive producer and your company is producing the movie in addition to being an actor?  And the production has had multiple gun safety issues?

    If he was running the show as EP and it wasn’t merely just a title, he might have some explaining to do.  If it was just a title and someone else had the authority then he probably doesn’t.  Unless he pulled the trigger and was aware of the two prior accidental discharges.  Then I don’t know.  Too early to tell.  Baldwin could very well be a victim here.  

    wherein a moron tries to pretend he's a movie set expert

  7. 6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    I’ll restate my position again with this newer info. There’s no need for people to be behind the camera for this shot.  Set it up with a finger gun or a rubber gun, see the light and angles or whatever you need to see, let the actor know where his mark is and how to point the gun into frame.  Then, vacate the area, give him the gun with dummies, roll cameras and get the shot. 

    or if people are really insistent, put them behind the safety shielding.  
     

    in this instance, the actor had the power to refuse to do the shot with people behind the camera. I get that if someone tells you cold gun you believe it, but how did that work out?  Gun safety shouldn’t stop being followed just because a gun crosses an imaginary line onto a movie set. 

    Or just don't have live projectile ammo on set under any circumstances and have an arm... GUN DUDE clear the guns properly as happens every other set without incident 99.999% of the time a gun is fired dry/blanks.

    There's a focus on "behind the camera" right now because that's what happened in this incident, but there are people standing all over movie sets. And you often need a gun pointed directly at other actors/extras.

     

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  8. Using the same guns for target practice and on set doesn't seem like a big deal. I can see wanting the actor to get used to that specific gun for the best possible performance. You (armorer, who should be the one in possession of it every nanosecond it isn't in the actor's hand being used) just clear it at the range and carry it empty there and back.

    Having live projectile ammo on set is just baffling. Keep that wherever you're target shooting.

    What? What's the thinking?

  9. 2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

    not only this, but often times actors have vanity production companies and people bring them material.  they help get projects made and they get to be producers to benefit from the profits.  baldwin being a producer (likely one of several) doesn't mean he was "in charge" of everything.

    No way man I'm on a text thread full of guys I follow on Tik Tok that TOTALLY KNOW the truth and they are saying that Baldwin is going to Guantanamo!

  10. 38 minutes ago, Nivek said:

    BT,

    All I have to do is look up at the American Shooting Center range to know how well people are about gun safety.

    I also went hunting in NE Texas and I was with some other guys, and we saw a huge hog on the side of the road, he asked me to shoot it. I told him I am left handed, as a passenger in a truck and my rifle is unloaded because we are traveling to the blinds. It made me wonder as to how other people travelled with their guns.

    Fully loaded in a rack on the back window in an unlocked truck is precisely how I grew up.

    Grabbing a loaded gun in the right season of the year as an 8-year-old was as easy as opening dad's truck or, if he was gone, walking over to a neighbor's also-unlocked truck. And at 10 I had my own, so no need for dad's. None of us ever shot ourselves or each other. No one acted like any of it was a big deal (because it wasn't).

    I'm not even mocking people for being unsafe with guns; I'm mocking these people for being fucking liars.

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