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Sark, on social media criticism

The deal itself is visible in terms of him being publicly involved (It's an endorsement, after all). How much he is being paid doesn't seem to be easy to find with a lazy Google attempt. Maybe he's private. Maybe he only tells the people he thinks need to know. Maybe he's got it posted in his locker. Maybe there's a database somewhere I don't know about. Don't know and don't really care as long as he's happy and it helps us keep him. (As mentioned above, we're in some new waters where we worry about endlessly re-recruiting our own guys.)

This is all screaming insecurity. Post like you've been there before.

I literally just described a thing I am currently involved in. Not sure what follow through I am asking for. I think BE is awesome and have said so and will continue to say so because it's true. I hope you get all your returns back and it grows. I think you guys are trendsetters. I think you guys are pioneering a fantastic model that I would love to see others emulate. You're doing awesome stuff. I love it. I also believe that we need a lot of action outside of BE. You'd agree with that, right? I'm not plugged into the AD. I don't know what "NIL conversations" you're talking about. I do know that a specific Texas player is getting money in his pocket directly correlated to the amount myself and others are investing into a project. That seems to be what people are interested in doing. I don't need your help in order to accomplish this task. I appreciate the offer, though. Keep kicking ass. I mean that sincerely.

If true... why was he on the team this long to begin with? (don't answer, stripper monkey coaching)

There are people who want to get involved who don't know how. I think it's helpful to give examples of how it can work so they feel empowered to get involved. because that's what we're looking for. The fact that everyone else is below CTJ and we will infuriate him with our ignorance will just have to be the cross he continues to bear. DODGE STRATUS

Early 90s in the Mesquite area. So probably same guy. Bald black coach.

Yeah it's stupid to talk about real processes that are working right now to put money in players' pockets we should only complain vaguely and with increasing rage about things we have zero control over. lol UT's admin needs to do a much better job, and as I said, if you're relying on them to guide you in your NIL proceedings it's going to be a bad time. We have to do it ourselves. I wish it wasn't that way, but it is. Our culture isn't ready for this right now. Don't know why it enrages some of you to hear that when you seem to believe it, too.

No, but the tournament I was attending was up there in North Texas so it's probably the same guy. No memory of what his name is or what team he was coaching.

Very odd hostility about a pretty banal thing that isn't even hard to understand. I think people here who have money they want to spend on paying players should find ways to do it. Burnt Ends is a good one. There are other ways to do it. I'd think you want people to actually make an effort, right? Not sure what your goal is here. If you're calling UT to have them walk you through the process then it might be a problem, but if all you want to do is hire a player to endorse a business it's pretty straight-forward and, if you've got people doing that legal side who know what they're doing, it can go pretty smoothly. We need to do it better. We need to do it more. Most of us aren't in a position to sign someone to a $1M kombucha-endorsement contract (I'm certainly not), so we've got to get more creative and work together (again, hat-tip to Burnt Ends). We, as a fanbase and institution, are new to this. We're learning. This is way outside our comfort zone after decades of not Playing The Game.

You're not making the athlete a partner in the business, you're paying them for their endorsement. YOU, the money guy(s) become the partner in the business who is then paying the athlete for the endorsement. At the end of the contract period, you renegotiate just like anything else. Bobby has a tire shop. You (solo or as part of an investment venture with other guys) go to Bobby and say, "Hey, we want to invest in your business. We would like to give you $X so that you can grow your business by increasing advertising. For instance, here's a great idea: Pay this football player for the local favorite Texas Longhorns to say your tire shop is the best!" You sign on as a minor partner in Bobby's Tires and Bobby uses that investment money to hire a new endorser. Forming an investment company would be a good way to turn a bunch of minor players money-wise into a single bigger player. It helps if people in your group do this kind of crap for a living anyway.

You tellin' me that #14 TE Benji Gosnell isn't twice as good as #28 Colston Loveland?! Buddy, get outta here.

Once saw a HS basketball coach who would yell "CONTINUITY!" at the boys all the time on the court. I think it made 'em more contiguous.

Don't. They're really really bad. We're going to light them up.

Do we need better players? Definitely. Do we need better coaches? Probably. I have a lot of track record on our coaching staff (not just Sark), and it's really good. I have some track record on our players, and it's mostly bad.

I didn't mean it in a pay-for-performance-metrics way, but a pay-someone-alot-once-they've-proven-themselves thing. So Johnny Recruit will see, "Hey, he was making $X in deals to start, but once he popped off a couple games he got a new gig that did $X*2! If I show out there are people watching who will want my face on their taco truck!" That's how all sports endorsement works. The players prove themselves on the field and then they get hired to do spots.

Talent identification is obviously an issue. Which program has the best scouting apparatus? Beat them. (It might already be us for all I know.) Paying players is all well and good, but we have to get better and identifying who we even need in the first place.

Don't underestimate the appeal of steady income.

Paying someone for endorsement isn't new ground and commercial lawyers will either handle endorsement agreements for you or know who to send you to. All you need to do is buddy up, come up with a TOTALLY VALID BUSINESS BUILDING REASON TO HIRE SAID ENDORSER and come to terms. It's about mouths to feed divided by food to put in those mouths. The Burnt Ends guys are smart and know exactly what they're doing. An OL room would be expensive to maintain; more guys in higher demand. Elite QBs and elite RBs just probably require more water than they're going to be able to draw out of message board posters. Also, there's only so much they could reasonably pursue as a TOTALLY VALID BUSINESS REASON for this particular venture. Trust those guys. I don't know any of them personally but I've read everything they've said about this and they're fucking smart. And if the water rises sufficiently, immamac and Co will use that wisely. DEs could fit in "Burnt Ends" very easily. WAR BURNT ENDS

lawyers, they think of everything

double posting? in 2021!

I love Burnt Ends. But if you want to pay difference-making players, the TE room isn't necessarily where you're looking. It's fucking brilliant as a concept, because it creates this pool of cash that's agnostic of individual players/performance. "You come here you get paid, regardless." We need performance focus, too, so guys know they'll get paid for making it happen on the field. For instance, you could become a partial investor in a private company for the specific purpose of funding their sponsorship of a certain elite player. And your wife can wonder why the hell you're getting into that business and roll her eyes when you explain it to her. Theoretically. Hypothetically. In Minecraft. Look at Leverage Lineup and get together with people you know who have private interests and get it moving. You aren't going to see much with regards to NIL specific moves on this board. Things are moving, though, even if you don't see it here. We want more movement, of course, as we should. But immamac is right about the performance on the field and its impact on donations. We are very lucky, though, because even in our doldrums we are going to be throwing around more NIL cash than 80% of teams even when they're successful. And if we ever get to 10+ win seasons again? It's going to get wild.

What I'm going to choose to hope for is this: A ton of influx from the portal pushes the talent on campus to step up its game.

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