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Where, on a movie set, are there not people? Visualize the scenario in your mind.

hell yes

Why? When is the actor supposed to practice the motion? An actor is trying to look as natural and proficient and smooth as possible with the weapon. They need to practice moving it and using it, not just at a range but before the shot. They'll need multiple takes. There's no reason to go against the existing protocol; the existing protocol works. This happened because the existing protocol wasn't followed.

Actors, a category of people we all know is perfectly capable of safely screwing around with guns, being able to identify their component parts, and distinguish between varying types of ammunication. lol

What's he checking for? If he's got blank rounds in there then it looks just as loaded as if it were projectile rounds. What now? Just shut up.

Hollywood has fired millions of blank rounds in the course of filming TV and movies and there have been 3 deaths. This was a tragic accident that resulted from a series of huge mistakes. It's not indicative of an actual widespread problem. Conservatives are desperate here, and it's a stinky cologne.

Tech needs to take Traylor now. Give him 3-4 years of experience in case Sark flames out.

Hey I agree. I don't do handguns, but if I did that's probably exactly how I'd run it.

You don't, but you probably know plenty of guys who do or at least advocate doing it. No safety + one in the pipe carriers are EVERYWHERE.

You knew zero people who carried a rifle or pistol in their vehicle at any time for any reason? In your mind, every single person who carries unloads their gun every time they get in a car and reloads it when they step out of the car? When driving a property, the gun is unloaded in the vehicle and it is only after stepping out of the vehicle the occupant pulls out magazines/ammunition and loads the weapon? A group of guys unload their guns before putting them on the back of the mule and driving from the truck to the blind? This is what you believe, right? I'm not asking what you imagine best practices would be. I'm asking what you think actually happens among people who consider themselves responsible gun owners. In the real world. lol

And yet, it basically never happens. Weird. A lot fewer than I imagined, actually. Did you even read your link. All you need to do is CTRL-F "gun" and see how rare these kinds of things are. You're either a liar, under 40, or a city boy. Probably all 3.

wherein a moron tries to pretend he's a movie set expert

It's all ball bearings these days

Or just don't have live projectile ammo on set under any circumstances and have an arm... GUN DUDE clear the guns properly as happens every other set without incident 99.999% of the time a gun is fired dry/blanks. There's a focus on "behind the camera" right now because that's what happened in this incident, but there are people standing all over movie sets. And you often need a gun pointed directly at other actors/extras.

Using the same guns for target practice and on set doesn't seem like a big deal. I can see wanting the actor to get used to that specific gun for the best possible performance. You (armorer, who should be the one in possession of it every nanosecond it isn't in the actor's hand being used) just clear it at the range and carry it empty there and back. Having live projectile ammo on set is just baffling. Keep that wherever you're target shooting. What? What's the thinking?

That's wild. I think Klubnik looks fantastic oh well

No way man I'm on a text thread full of guys I follow on Tik Tok that TOTALLY KNOW the truth and they are saying that Baldwin is going to Guantanamo!

Fully loaded in a rack on the back window in an unlocked truck is precisely how I grew up. Grabbing a loaded gun in the right season of the year as an 8-year-old was as easy as opening dad's truck or, if he was gone, walking over to a neighbor's also-unlocked truck. And at 10 I had my own, so no need for dad's. None of us ever shot ourselves or each other. No one acted like any of it was a big deal (because it wasn't). I'm not even mocking people for being unsafe with guns; I'm mocking these people for being fucking liars.

I think the person primarily at fault, from a moral/ethical standpoint, is the armorer or whoever else was deemed responsible for handling weapons on the set. That's common sense, right? If you were to divorce your politics from the situation and just look at it straight, that's the common sense take. The fact that it's an actor you viscerally hate because of politics shouldn't change your estimation of what happened, but it does because you are fully deranged by cultural and political allegiances and conflict. I think it's absurd to expect an actor to understand what is going on with the guns. I wouldn't expect Joe Actor to be able to visually tell the difference between a projectile round and a blank. I wouldn't expect Denzel to be able to fly a 747. I wouldn't expect Ryan Gosling to be able to change the spark plugs in a Mustang. They're actors in a world of pretending and make-believe. It's someone else's job to the change the oil. It's someone else's job to prepare the props. In his role as actor, Baldwin did nothing wrong. Regarding his role as producer, I have no idea what the actual authority structure was and his involvement in any of those decisions. You don't, either. You have what you WANT to believe because of your aforementioned political and cultural psychosis and fury. I don't even like Baldwin. I think he's annoying personally. I would rather spend an evening drinking storm runoff out of a culvert than watch SNL. He's been in some amazing movies. He was hilarious in 30 Rock. Whatever, don't care about him. I've spent my far-too-lengthy life around guns and gun users/owners so this "I DUTIFULLY CHECK EVERY WEAPON I AM HANDED WITH A 20-POINT SAFETY INSPECTION!" is complete horseshit. I've been hunting too many times. I've been shooting too many times. I've been in the back of a buddy's truck heading out to drive the property too many times. I've been to too many competitions (obviously standards are very good at them). You idiots can sell that shit somewhere else.

Conservatives are obsessed with gossip culture and celebrities. Their god emperor is a Manhattan socialite and their philosophers weep openly on YouTube about Disney princesses. It's awesome.

What are the "common safety protocols" on a set and how familiar are you with them? (And how familiar are you going to pretend to be after some Googling and outrage-focused source-reading?) In the decades and decades of shooting movies with guns with vanishingly few injuries/deaths, is it established practice that actors on a set behave the same way as we do at gun ranges and hunts? Do you ACTUALLY inspect every gun a buddy hands to you at a range or in a blind? Every time without fail? The posturing here is pathetic and transparent. Why would it ever cross an actor's mind that the gun they were handed might be anything other than loaded with blanks? Are they supposed to unload and reload every magazine after inspecting each round? If it helps, imagine it's a different actor you don't hate. Do you think Clint Eastwood double-checked every round in every gun he ever fired on set?

The least feasible part of that is Biden being alive in 2028. Trump is regaining the WH in 2024 if he wants it.

lol this guy 2024 we get a runback of Trump v Biden then in 2028 it'll happen again (Biden trying to get his 2nd term and Trump doggedly pursuing a 3rd while Democrats say "erm, uhh, sir?") LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

8 movies until we get to Chairdogs? DISAPPOINTING