2020 DL Van Fillinger

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

Okay, gotta ask. I click on this thread daily because I enjoy it. But I cant recall Van Fillinger coming up. Per 247C he is #373 and a 3 star looking at regional schools mainly like Utah, byu, colorado, BSU, etc. A few roll your eyes offers from michigan and tosu.

Can somebody tell me why this guy is a great get? I'm in no way discounting him, he may be great but I am obviously missing something. A team full of #373's in the country equals kansas state.

People probably asked Saban why he took Josh Jacobs. OU offered late and Texas never offered. I’m pretty sure he was a 3*. Sometimes you have to watch the film (highlights) and do your homework. 

I remember when Texas took Michael Huff and he turned out to be pretty good, lol.

I love that Texas is filling the D.

Dorbah, Broughton, and now Fillinger.

Feels good.

Edited July 19, 2019 by XOVERX

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

Okay, gotta ask. I click on this thread daily because I enjoy it. But I cant recall Van Fillinger coming up. Per 247C he is #373 and a 3 star looking at regional schools mainly like Utah, byu, colorado, BSU, etc. A few roll your eyes offers from michigan and tosu.

Can somebody tell me why this guy is a great get? I'm in no way discounting him, he may be great but I am obviously missing something. A team full of #373's in the country equals kansas state.

Ksu wishes they had an avg of 373.

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

WTF, he ran a 4.25 shuttle at 16 at 250 lbs?  Damn...

2 minutes ago, UTDD said:

WTF, he ran a 4.25 shuttle at 16 at 250 lbs?  Damn...

Yes, and tell that Markstanco dude why this is a good thing.  

Yes, and tell that Markstanco dude why this is a good thing.  

Also tell that dumbass markstanco why he is at 373 and this is an awesome get.

People probably asked Saban why he took Josh Jacobs. OU offered late and Texas never offered. I’m pretty sure he was a 3*. Sometimes you have to watch the film (highlights) and do your homework. 

Sweet, so saban hit on a 3 star, and you already have van playing on sundays. You are absolutely missing my point.

6 minutes ago, markstanco said:

13 minutes ago, lemonandaturd said:

Yes, and tell that Markstanco dude why this is a good thing.  

Also tell that dumbass markstanco why he is at 373 and this is an awesome get.

He’s Polynesian Brian Robison, motherfucker.  Chill out and smoke some dope.  Do some fucking thing!

4 minutes ago, markstanco said:

53 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

People probably asked Saban why he took Josh Jacobs. OU offered late and Texas never offered. I’m pretty sure he was a 3*. Sometimes you have to watch the film (highlights) and do your homework. 

Sweet, so saban hit on a 3 star, and you already have van playing on sundays. You are absolutely missing my point.

Nobody is saying we should turn down 5 stars for 3 stars or guaranteeing Pro success. Every class is going to have some 3 stars and Van is the type of 3 star you want - great physical gifts and huge upside. If he doesn’t develop I trust Herman to manage the roster, unlike Mack. You are trying to dampen reactions that are already properly adjusted. 

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Maybe I'd waffle if we had to pick him over Collins, but over another option like Princely, I think this is the perfect high 3-star.  Some reasonable questions and maybe lack of exposure causing his current ranking, but very raw upside possibilities that a good coach can get excited about to develop, etc.  Maybe I'm the only one kind of amazed at just a stupid shuttle run, but that's better than a lot of NFL players going at it every Sunday right now.  Yeah, he won't be 250 later...but still...As much as I have scratched my head sometimes at certain coaching moves (play calling and time management as two examples at times) I actually have pretty good faith so far in how they are evaluating the type of players they want.  I'm also very confident he won't be a 3 star at the end.

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

 

 

Then why is he #373 and not sitting in front of nick sabens desk. That's my point. Like I said he may be a badass, but none of the blue bloods seem to care nor do the agencies.

 

I dont think Saban has to work that hard. Today, we have to.

This staff evaluates talent and they are pretty good at it. Lets pray they always do it.  We bitched and moaned about the lack of good evaluations during the back half of Browns tenure. Now our staff is actually busting their ass and doing their jobs. Sometimes they agree with the agencies/blue bloods and sometimes they don't. Case in point: Tyler Owens. Agencies finally caught up...BOMC/aggy conspiracy bullshit notwithstanding.

 

He is also from Utah. $9.95rs probably aren't giving a lot of effort here. Its not low hanging fruit.

 

Let the aggys jerk each other off with $9.95 evals. 

 

To your point, hes got the potential to be a badass. Its up to our staff to make it so.  

2 hours ago, markstanco said:

Okay, gotta ask. I click on this thread daily because I enjoy it. But I cant recall Van Fillinger coming up. Per 247C he is #373 and a 3 star looking at regional schools mainly like Utah, byu, colorado, BSU, etc. A few roll your eyes offers from michigan and tosu.

Can somebody tell me why this guy is a great get? I'm in no way discounting him, he may be great but I am obviously missing something. A team full of #373's in the country equals kansas state.

The last Kansas State signee that was ranked #373 or better was in the '13 recruiting class. You are not good at this. 

You are stupid. Fillinger is the 3rd DL take with measurements that project a high ceiling.  Also, you do realize that recruiting rankings shift? Rivals is lagging behind the other two services and at some point will probably bump Fillinger to a 4 star. There was a rivals guy earlier today saying that Fillinger was in line for a bump. 

 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, markstanco said:

38 minutes ago, lemonandaturd said:

Yes, and tell that Markstanco dude why this is a good thing.  

Also tell that dumbass markstanco why he is at 373 and this is an awesome get.

Are you drunk? At least take this stupid point of yours  you’ve posted 10 times to the 2020 thread, and get this shit off his commitment thread.

47 minutes ago, UTDD said:

WTF, he ran a 4.25 shuttle at 16 at 250 lbs?  Damn...

That makes him faster than aggys entire DB's 

2 hours ago, markstanco said:

Then why is he #373 and not sitting in front of nick sabens desk. 

 

What are you arguing? 

Alabama's 2020 recruiting class has 4 commits that are ranked below #373. You are either incredibly dumb and incapable of doing a little research or you're trolling. I hope you're trolling. 

48 minutes ago, markstanco said:

55 minutes ago, lemonandaturd said:

Yes, and tell that Markstanco dude why this is a good thing.  

Also tell that dumbass markstanco why he is at 373 and this is an awesome get.

Maybe because the $9.95ers doing the rankings actually do a poor job of it sometimes?  Just spitballing...

31 minutes ago, Machinator said:

I found markstanco

Apparently unlike aggy, Texas doesn't expect its defensive linemen to often run 40 yards chasing a ball carrier.  

Edited July 19, 2019 by Beau Vine

41 minutes ago, markstanco said:

1 hour ago, Chili dog said:

People probably asked Saban why he took Josh Jacobs. OU offered late and Texas never offered. I’m pretty sure he was a 3*. Sometimes you have to watch the film (highlights) and do your homework. 

Sweet, so saban hit on a 3 star, and you already have van playing on sundays. You are absolutely missing my point.

His rating in the composite is .8884, and anything over .8900 is a 4-star. The smallest of smallest update to the rankings and he's a 4-star and then you probably think he's a good take, even though nothing about him has changed.

1) Two ratings services rank Fillinger as a 4-star.  The composite rank of 0.8884 puts him right at the top of the 3-star range.  That begins at 0.8903.

2) He's a multi-sport star, which Coach Herman values very highly for demonstrated athleticism.

3) Absurd measurables - Tons of upside for Fillinger. 

4) Impressive offer list - suggests that Texas isn't the only team that thinks he's a good player

5) Ranking trend - Fillinger's recruiting stock has been rising steadily this year.  As more information has come in, his ranking has moved up considerably.  No reason to believe he won't be a consensus 4-star soon.

6) Location - much more likely to be overlooked in Utah which isn't exactly saturated with scouts.  May help to explain #5 as well.

7) Work ethic:  He's a guy that will fit right into and reinforce the culture that Texas Football is building.

8 ) Staff evaluation - Demonstrated well above the norm in the past.  With higher rates players still on the board this suggest to me that the staff has Fillinger rated above some of those players or at a minimum quite close in ability so taking the bird in the hand is more than worthwhile.

9) Commitment - Fillinger sought out Texas, not vice versa.  He really wants to be here and the staff won't have to commit a lot of precious time and effort to keeping him in the fold.  Considering how much work still has to be done to fill the 2020 class that's important.  It's especially true when measured against so many teams with 16-20 commits already.

love this take! Welcome and Hook 'em Van \m/

Get this thread back on track -- VF is a great addition to what will become a dominant line. Thrilled to have him!

 

Does this mean aggy needs to sign another dehydrated downsy looking qb?

11 hours ago, Machinator said:

 

That guy has some motor going...

7 hours ago, Baconboy said:

What are you talking about? 247 shows offers from 5/8 of the blue bloods (USC, Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, and Texas). He also has offers from LSU, UCLA, and Washington. I get he’s a 3 star but plenty of quality schools offered him.

Does Nebraska really count anymore?

6 hours ago, markstanco said:

6 hours ago, lemonandaturd said:

Yes, and tell that Markstanco dude why this is a good thing.  

Also tell that dumbass markstanco why he is at 373 and this is an awesome get.

Man who pissed in your Cheerios? He's an awesome DL3 take, as Machinator said. No one's looking for the second coming of Christian Wilkins here.

44 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Does Nebraska really count anymore?

Probably not for being considered an elite offer in recruiting, but Stanco’s the one who chose to use the term “blue blood”, not me. I agree they aren’t what they used to be and probably never will be, but they’re still a historic blue blood.

Maybe we should reserve judgement till daddy99 sobers up enough to watch his film and give us his evaluation? We all know his have been spot on so far

 

This guy is a mother fucking pipe hitter.  These takes are perfect and necessary.  This guy's got a high ceiling and a fucking motor.  Go shit in someone's bed with all this nonsense.  This is the exact type of kid you see go to other programs and start wreaking shop.  As stated, a Brian Robinson clone.  If you're looking for his number on the field.  It's this one:

I think you need a mixture of high floor, lower ceiling players as well as the more high ceiling, low floor players.   Obviously, the highest ranked players tend to be more of the high floor/high ceiling types but this staff has done a great job of identifying and acquiring talent beyond the no brainer players.

As the hopefully 3rd take on the defensive line, Fillinger offers that high floor player, who has some measureables (elite shuttle) which may translate to unexpected athleticism.  He's also a high effort, relentless player who will be great in terms of culture fit and program mentality.  

Very, very excited about this pickup.  He's a guy that needs a couple years to percolate and then unleash as a RS soph.  

Additionally, and this is probably an old guy preference but I'm a fan of players that have low key recruitments.  

 

2 hours ago, texifornia said:

Man who pissed in your Cheerios? He's an awesome DL3 take, as Machinator said. No one's looking for the second coming of Christian Wilkins here.

He’s an aggy troll. I’d love to hear his explanation of how the cinder blocks in their OL class are going to keep Case’s reincarnation in one piece. 

8 hours ago, markstanco said:

9 hours ago, Chili dog said:

People probably asked Saban why he took Josh Jacobs. OU offered late and Texas never offered. I’m pretty sure he was a 3*. Sometimes you have to watch the film (highlights) and do your homework. 

Sweet, so saban hit on a 3 star, and you already have van playing on sundays. You are absolutely missing my point.

I think you’re missing mine. This guy is a great take because he is a great football player. His film looks good. His numbers look good. Sometimes the rankings are wrong and the coaches are right. If you can’t watch his highlights and look at his combine numbers and understand why we took him, you can plan to be frustrated by recruiting. If I’m missing your point, so is everyone else. Why don’t you make a better point? 

30 minutes ago, Acropora said:

I think you need a mixture of high floor, lower ceiling players as well as the more high ceiling, low floor players.   Obviously, the highest ranked players tend to be more of the high floor/high ceiling types but this staff has done a great job of identifying and acquiring talent beyond the no brainer players.

As the hopefully 3rd take on the defensive line, Fillinger offers that high floor player, who has some measureables (elite shuttle) which may translate to unexpected athleticism.  He's also a high effort, relentless player who will be great in terms of culture fit and program mentality.  

Very, very excited about this pickup.  He's a guy that needs a couple years to percolate and then unleash as a RS soph.  

Additionally, and this is probably an old guy preference but I'm a fan of players that have low key recruitments.  

 

I don't know how old you are, but as an older age millennial, I too, appreciate low key recruitments.

17 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

He’s an aggy troll. I’d love to hear his explanation of how the cinder blocks in their OL class are going to keep Case’s reincarnation in one piece. 

Wait, Case really died on this play?

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Just now, Casual Encounter said:

Wait, Case really died on this play?

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It was either that one or the Stryker decapitation. He’s a White Walker, man. 

Every time markstanco posts on the recruiting board, I’m surprised by how dumb/misinformed his comments are. 

This string of posts is no exception.

17 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Every time markstanco posts on the recruiting board, I’m surprised by how dumb/misinformed his comments are. 

This string of posts is no exception.

I really think he’s a troll. This level of density has to be embellished. I keep waiting for someone to tell me I’ve been markstanco’d.

3 hours ago, texifornia said:

Man who pissed in your Cheerios? He's an awesome DL3 take, as Machinator said. No one's looking for the second coming of Christian Wilkins here.

I dont know why anyone engages with him. Its obvious he’s watched zero film, doesn’t understand recruiting multiple takes at the same positions in one class, and can’t/doesn’t know how to read or fathom that kids like these land in Alabama’s classes every year. And everyone else’s. Ive been reading his posts for a decade, if he’s a troll he’s the most patient, consistent one I’ve ever seen in a thankless manner of trolling. There’s no payoff or gotcha, if the dude really gets his rocks off from having people smarter than him have to explain obvious shit to him 4-5 times while he goes “huh,” well, then my hats off to his trolling wizardry. But My money is on Occsm’s Razor and the fact he’s a rock-headed idiot. 

10 hours ago, Machinator said:

I found markstanco

What a bunch of bullshit.  They have 8 recruits currently rated much lower than 373 nationally.

Seen on another site a post saying Rivals said he'll get a ranking boost next updated ranking so BOMC!!

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Seen on another site a post saying Rivals said he'll get a ranking boost next updated ranking so BOMC!!

God, I know I am going to regret asking this and but what is BOMC? 

1 minute ago, UTEX90 said:

God, I know I am going to regret asking this and but what is BOMC? 

Burnt Orange Media Conspiracy 

29 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I dont know why anyone engages with him. Its obvious he’s watched zero film, doesn’t understand recruiting multiple takes at the same positions in one class, and can’t/doesn’t know how to read or fathom that kids like these land in Alabama’s classes every year. And everyone else’s. Ive been reading his posts for a decade, if he’s a troll he’s the most patient, consistent one I’ve ever seen in a thankless manner of trolling. There’s no payoff or gotcha, if the dude really gets his rocks off from having people smarter than him have to explain obvious shit to him 4-5 times while he goes “huh,” well, then my hats off to his trolling wizardry. But My money is on Occsm’s Razor and the fact he’s a rock-headed idiot. 

Great quote I heard recently: 

"When you try to argue with a fool, that proves there are two."

I was sure it was Big Ole Mega Cock.  Thanks for the clarification.

10 hours ago, Machinator said:

I found markstanco

Lulz at using 40 times as any sort of metric for DL, especially the school whose recruiting created the term human cube. I don’t even think Raikes could run 40 yards at once.

I’ve never seen a fan base that is as uniformly terrible at analyzing line play as aggy, it’s truly impressive. They have 0 idea what makes a good linemen because, generally, they’re idiots, and more specifically,  they’ve been parroting this SEC LOS league bullshit for so long as an excuse for their crappy takes. 

17 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Great quote I heard recently: 

"When you try to argue with a fool, that proves there are two."

Mark Twain:

”Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” 

Edited July 19, 2019 by Chili dog
Corrected the quote

26 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

I’ve never seen a fan base that is as uniformly terrible at analyzing line play as aggy, it’s truly impressive. They have 0 idea what makes a good linemen because, generally, they’re idiots, and more specifically,  they’ve been parroting this SEC LOS league bullshit for so long as an excuse for their crappy takes. 

What boggles the mind is how consistently this has been true through several coaching changes now. With a brief spike thanks to Mike Sherman's superior OLs, aggy line play on both sides of the ball has been absurdly underperforming, either as a function of recruiting (on the OL) or scheme (on the DL) coupled with a lackadaisical culture (See: Mack, Daylon). They point to Myles Garrett as the be-all-end-all of defensive linemen, without remembering that against quality opponents, he simply disappeared. His performance since he joined the NFL suggests that the reason he disappeared was not a lack of talent.

So.... what was it?

Hint: it's been a part of why aggy hasn't won anything in 80 years.

As to your basic point, yeah, they can look at a guy with a decent frame and no bad weight, high powerball and fast shuttle measurements, and not realize he's a highly coachable take. They'd rather have the fat-ball dudes. Hey, more power to 'em.

39 minutes ago, UTEX90 said:

I was sure it was Big Ole Mega Cock.  Thanks for the clarification.

Haha bitter aggys are bitter. “Mountain Conference Type Player...”

Yeah, those guys get offers from USC, Oregon, UW, LSU, Mich, tOSU, etc.

4 minutes ago, Scholz said:

Haha bitter aggys are bitter. “Mountain Conference Type Player...”

Yeah, those guys get offers from USC, Oregon, UW, LSU, Mich, tOSU, etc.

It's just because he's from Utah and someone mentioned Boise State as one of his offers. That and I'm not sure they've realized Utah and Colorado are in the Pac.